Healing the Gut Tribe ~ February - Page 7

[Annikate]

Thank you Jane!

AmyD - I didn't mean to disregard your post. I'm going to experiment and try both ways. I just hope it doesn't come out like . . . . .

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by JaneS
I love this method b/c I can make as much as I want and also make cow for me and goat for DS at same time. Or a small batch of our raw cream for ice cream

You know I'm gonna have to ask about the raw cream next don't you?

[Pookietooth]

Zanelee, ds doesn't break down carrots or peas, either, and I think it's at least paritally because he doesn't chew them much.
JaneS, thanks for the info about bad vitamin C -- what's the good kind? Sodium ascorbate? Ascorbic acid?

[momofcutie]

I have Crohn's Disease and Irritable Bowel Syndrome (symptoms even when Crohn's is in remission) and my son has allergies, asthma, eczema, sensory integration issues, motor delays, and a mild form of autism spectrum disorder. I'd like to look into dietary changes, but I'm overwhelmed with all the information. (I don't even know if I'm posting in the right place!) Could someone please tell me what healing the gut (as it's used here) means?

Thanks!

[snuffles]

Originally Posted by mommy2cias

My son is 3 yrs. 10 months and has some issues we need to deal with. One is that he's barely 27 pounds and 37" tall. He's barely on the growth charts and he gains weight very slowly. The other is behavorial(I'll have to expand on that at another time) and illnesses. He had several ear infections until we started taking him to the chiropracter in April 2005. He was scheduled to have tubes put in his ears, but we tried the chiro and it worked great. Unfortantly, he's all messed up already from all the antiobtics.

essed up group.. LOL

Thanks!!!

Hi Janice. I mostly lurk on this thread. My almost 4 yr old dd has had gut issues off and on since she was about 2 (when she weaned). My dd sounds a lot like your son.. in fact, she will be 4 next month and weighs 27 lbs. I'm not sure how tall she is. She is on the growth charts but just barely (last time I took her to the dr it was around 5%). She has grown in height this past 6 months but has barely put on a pound. My other kids are small too but she is a little smaller than them, still. Anyway, you mentioned something about yeast and I wanted to just say that I have always thought that her problems were related to yeast. I had horrible thrush/yeast problems when she was a baby and kept passing it to her.

I had a question for the group. My dd's poops are always throwing me off. I have tried eliminating several different foods (in fact, she was GF for almost a year because it seemed to bother her). Right now, I know that if citrus foods bother her stomach, and if she eats a lot of oranges or something, it can give her diarrhea for a couple of weeks!. Also, small amounts of chocolate and dairy seem okay, but if she eats more it will upset her stomach as well. I seem to notice when I up her zinc intake, her helps her stools normalize again. Also, if she gets a stomach virus, she can have diarrhea for 2-3 weeks after that. Sometimes, she will have loose stools and I can't figure out what triggered it. Her poor gut sounds so damaged to me. Thankfully, she seems healthy otherwise (nothing more than normal viruses). I give her probiotics (have for a long time.)

I looked into the SCD diet a while back, and truthfully, it seems extremely difficult for our family to do all the way. I am willing to try some changes but the whole thing will just be too much for me right now. (and I thought having the whole family GF for a year was hard! I really admire you mamas!)

Sorry if I'm talking too much! Thanks for listening.

Side note-- I just noticed that this was my 1000th post!

[Bestbirths]

momofcutie, healing the gut is for you! It means dealing with the irritable bowel, allergies, and autism issues, because they have shown a correlation between the brain and the gut. They have researched that many people with ibs, autism, dyslexia, add, etc. have gut issues like candida yeast, parasites, virus's, that play a crucial role in keeping them sick. Then, they found out that the proteins in gluten and casein also destroy the lining of the gut in some people. Which is why a lot of people are experimenting a trial of the gluten and casien free diet or other diets.

Also you are just using enzymes at this point, not diet right? I couldn't do that, my gut was in too bad a shape, I needed to do the diet. Perhaps the foods are still not being completely broken down and continuing to feed the yeast/bacteria.

We are gluten and casein free. We cheat once a week with enzymes, though. Right now, we are learning about Sara's Diet, and we are going to go lutein free also. The amazing thing is that our son has already self protected his diet to eliminate most luteins, so it's really not too much of a leap for him to go lutein free. It will be harder for the rest of us, but we are all going to give lutein free a trial, because several of us feel or look worse on the GFCF diet, and I am thinking soy might be a big issue at play there, but also luteins in general.

I will be making the d-lactate free almond yogurt, and does anyone know if I can make tofu out of almonds or something other than soy?....I need a cottage cheese substitute that is not dairy or soy....

[Bestbirths]

oh, I just read a reference that garlic, uva ursi, and lauricidin deal with bacteria.
I am concerned because garlic as an herb is powerful, and I have always heard not to use it, so we will just cook with it more. I heard that lauricidin tasted awful, so either I need a cap making machine with that, or maybe go with the uva ursi, unless anyone here knows a better way (homeopathic?) of dealing with bacteria.

[Bestbirths]

Mat4mel

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congrats on one thousand posts!!!

[Annikate]

Hi momofcutie & mel!

The ladies here are wonderful!

I am just starting this diet and really once you get a chance to read all the recipies, I think you might feel better about being able to stick to it.

I know I've experienced changes in myself and in dd over only the last 3 days.

DD has too. Today she *really* has allergy eyes. She's also sneezing a lot which I know can be a result of food intolerances as well. She seems to feel fine and is making slow but steady progress in the sleep department.

[Kundalini-Mama]

Originally Posted by Annikate

Thank you Jane!

AmyD - I didn't mean to disregard your post. I'm going to experiment and try both ways. I just hope it doesn't come out like . . . . .

For the love of macaroni, I have absolutely no ego invested in that yogurt recipe Personally, I use a yogurt maker

[Bestbirths]

What would it mean if my children who have been gfcf for three months are developing deep dark circles under their eyes?

[ikesmom]

vitamins

I always see posts on enzymes but what multi or prenatal is good when doing SCD? I'm saying digestability wise? I spend too much on vits, supplements ect. at hfs, but I look on bottles at Costco and Walmart and see all kins of extra crap in them. I made the mistake of buying a pre-natal I have to take 4 times a day and I can taste it all day long

[momofcutie]

Thanks for the welcome! So where do I start? What diet do you recommend we try first? I'd like to eliminate dairy, but it's hard to do without cheese!

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by AmyD
For the love of macaroni, I have absolutely no ego invested in that yogurt recipe Personally, I use a yogurt maker

Tell me, tell me, what kind of yogurt maker? With 2 little ones running around I need the easiest way possible!

[Kundalini-Mama]

Originally Posted by Annikate

Tell me, tell me, what kind of yogurt maker? With 2 little ones running around I need the easiest way possible!

I have a eurocuisine, but I don't use it according to the directions. I have the lid propped open by two wood toys to keep the heat down. My yogurt is right around 99-105 degrees. Oh, and I don't put yogurt in the middle glass jar b/c it gets too hot in there.

[Annikate]

I'm starting to get a little worried . . . dd's eyes look horrible. They look like they did when things were really bad.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by zanelee

Hello to everyone! Finally I've rejoined the land of the living. We've had so much sickness in our family, we just had to hunker down and deal...
Speaking of which...do ya'll think that my ds's possible asthma (Serious lung stuff every time he gets any type of upper resp. thingy) could be related to his gut in some fashion?

I also had another question for anyone... a normal, healthy gut breaks down and absorbs carrots and english peas...right?
Our dd (1 year) ate some cooked and they showed up in her diaper later that day UNCHANGED AT ALL!!!! YIKES! If I didn't know better, I'd swear she put them in her diaper instead of eating them. I think that this finally convinced dh that we all need to be on SCD. Thankfully she's still mostly breastfed.

Yes re: asthma.

It's all about the immune system...and what is the gatekeeper of the immune system: your gut!

And what takes care of your gut (and all mucus lining of body, including sinuses) and actually produces some immunoglobulins: probiotics!

I'm a little goofy tonight.

RE: peas and carrots
She's so young, her digestive enzymes are not fully in gear yet so don't be too, too worried, just vigilant

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by Annikate

You know I'm gonna have to ask about the raw cream next don't you?

Cream is excellent for making yogurt, kind of a cross between sour cream and creme fraiche. Then making ice cream out of the yogurt so its less sour than using yogurt from milk b/c there's less lactose in cream so less lactic acid bacteria in the final product.

I'm a huge believer in raw milk, so we do get raw cream also from time to time.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by Pookietooth

JaneS, thanks for the info about bad vitamin C -- what's the good kind? Sodium ascorbate? Ascorbic acid?

Bad? I'm confused. Ascorbic acid is fine just acidic, and you can get the runs from taking too much. (and the advice to take it to excess to prevent constipation is just evil, I did that once to "clean me out" and suffered greatly!)

Sodium ascorbate is ph neutral so you can take more in cases of viruses/colds/disease and it's gentler on stomach and bowels.

However, both should be balanced with bioflavonoids, the natural components of vitamin C in foods. They keep vitamin C in the body longer and helps prevent deficiencies of the other C factors. Really the best source of C is food, like all nutrients, b/c its got the cofactors.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by momofcutie

I have Crohn's Disease and Irritable Bowel Syndrome (symptoms even when Crohn's is in remission) and my son has allergies, asthma, eczema, sensory integration issues, motor delays, and a mild form of autism spectrum disorder. I'd like to look into dietary changes, but I'm overwhelmed with all the information. (I don't even know if I'm posting in the right place!) Could someone please tell me what healing the gut (as it's used here) means?

Thanks!

Oh you are so in the right place! Welcome!

Start here to read about the Specific Carbohydrate Diet.

Beginners: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i.../beginners.htm
Science Behind the Diet: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i..._the_diet2.htm

Using the SCD for Autism, see "New Chapter About Autism" link
http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i...ism/autism.htm

www.pecanbread.com is specifically for kids using the SCD for autism and has advice for dairy free version.

Read this book, "Enzymes for Autism and Other Neurological Conditions"
www.enzymestuff.com
it's really fantastic not just for ASD but all digestive disorders, behavioral issues, migraines, sensory, etc etc... Has the best description of leaky gut and understanding the digestive function that I've read thus far. So far I seem to be the only one raving about it. Is anyone else reading?