Healing the Gut Tribe ~ February - Page 21

[Kundalini-Mama]

Originally Posted by JaneS

this is such a coincidence b/c I started DS on coffea cruda for his sleep issues today!!! If I can just solve that one, everything else would be so much better.

DH is putting his foot down about seeing the way expensive Homeopath right now! ARGH

How close are you to Brattleboro, VT? My homeopath is there and he takes insurance as well, b/c he was smart and became a NP too

[JaneS]

WOW Deborah, thanks for your story

(maybe the bone thing is because you ate healthier than before? I know my diet got WAY better in some ways on an Elim. Diet. Like Tweetybirds said, this is all so intricate sometimes we don't know the cause.)

I'm glad you posted though because yes, Elim. Diet can be helpful, it's just that there is something missing from them ... the healing part.

I think enzymes would be very worth a second try in your cases... which ones did you try and for how long? It takes a while to heal a gut with them. Ditto probiotics.

And it really makes me sad that we have such similar stories re: not being in control of our births and our babies. I have a lot of anxiety about other issues with respect to DS's birth too.

I cannot believe a dentist allowed your 6 mo old to sit on your lap while drilling out mercury fillings Have you considered getting her hair tested? She has a lot of allergies for sure, that must be so hard.

[Pookietooth]

tweetybirds2, it's common to have low stomach acid if you are aging, in my case, I definitely have it (did the HCL challenge with pills, got up to 7 pills before I felt heartburn!). I don't know why. I think it might be from long-term use of Tums, and also I was on Zantac during my pg for reflux (which was diagnosed based solely on my having morning sickness well into my second trimester), and was on it before for what I was told was reflux based on my troubles with swallowing (which could have just been food intolerance). So it does happen!

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by AmyD

How close are you to Brattleboro, VT? My homeopath is there and he takes insurance as well, b/c he was smart and became a NP too

Wow, yes Brattleboro is just over the border but we are 108 miles away.

Verrrry interesting. That was very smart. That gives me an idea... I have another referral that is an M.D. here in MA going to check up on him.

You are still trying to kidnap me huh?

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by mlleoiseau

So, as a short answer to your question, Jane, I found out through blood testing about dd's allergies--the bad ones, anyway. I would much rather find out that way than in real life reactions. Now, there is a very, very, very slight chance that the test results are wrong, but I'd rather not find out right now.

Yeah I don't blame you one single bit!!!

[Kundalini-Mama]

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[Pookietooth]

So, Jane are you saying that you shouldn't use raw milk if it's not grass fed? Because in this area, it's too cold for the cows to be pastured in the winter. See: http://www.graceharborfarms.com/raw_milk.htm

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by Hibou

2. In regards to enzymes, what brands are reputable, and if anyone on this thread is in Canada, I'm interested in knowing which reputable brands are specifically available here.

Is Enzymedica at hfs in Canada? Here is listing from Karen's site:

http://www.enzymestuff.com/supplement.htm

[Kundalini-Mama]

You have me beat. We are over 70 miles away, but 2 hrs due to the back roads.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by Pookietooth

So, Jane are you saying that you shouldn't use raw milk if it's not grass fed? Because in this area, it's too cold for the cows to be pastured in the winter. See: http://www.graceharborfarms.com/raw_milk.htm

Not necessarily... I do see from your link that they also feed alfalfa and grass during winter too. I don't know the extent or percentage of their diet to which grains starts to effect them but that site seems like their cows are very healthy. And they do pasture the other 3 seasons?

I really said that with respect to the mastitis issue which is extremely serious and sign of a big problem. Year round grain feeding can cause this, not so sure about seasonal issues. It's really the health of the cow, and... get this... their intestinal flora!

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by AmyD

You have me beat. We are over 70 miles away, but 2 hrs due to the back roads.

And what pretty back roads they are! One of the first times I drove on major roads was from vacation house in Quechee to Killington. Sigh.

[Pattyla]

Ok I still don't have the book so telling me to make something out of it won't help.

I made a coconut custard thing tonight. It was yummy!

DD was nuts at bedtime though. Could have been the coconut, the nuts from yesterday that I ate way too many of, the tiny bit of guten I got w/comunion that made me feel sick immediately (not sure how I'm going to deal with that one) or the small chance that she was given something in the church nursery but I doubt that, or just the fact that she is teething something terrible (poor thing why won't these break through!)

So can I replace dccc w/dripped yougart in all recipes? That would rock! Oh I've gotta go turn off my yougart maker now. I'm not thrilled about it taking 3 days from when I start making it untill I have it and if one more person gives me advice on how they make regular yougart I'm gonna scream! (just put it in a sleeping bag. Just put it in a warm oven for a couple of hours, etc.)

One more week and my book will be here and I won't feel quite so much like I am groping arround in the dark trying to figure this thing out.

Patty

[Pattyla]

About my raw milk guy. He has apparently been doing this for a while and is just baffled by the mastitis that won't go away. He says he hasn't ever seen anything like this before. He seems pretty smart (first generation farmer doing it cause he likes it) so I'm not going to write him off just yet. I do know that two of the cow he has were recent aquisitions so perhaps that is the problem, what they were getting before he got them.

I don't know if the low temp non homo milk is grass or grain fed but I assume that since it doesn't say it is grain fed. I have been using the yougart from the grass fed company to start my 24 hour yougart. (it comes in bottles no thickeners or anything but the milk and probiotics).

Man I wish I could convince my fil to start grass feeding his cows. He just bought a bull that was all grass fed and he was very impressed with it's condition. Perhaps that will start to sway him in that direction...

The local farm where I get my eggs and chickens just started doing some grass fed beef. I got some for dh and dd (I can't digest beef plus it smells terrible to me).

Oh and I got some enzymes that are supposed to be for candidia. How much help will the really give me? Should I be attempting to get some into dd as well? Will she get any from bfing? How important is the seperation from meals? Why do they say to eat it closer to a meall when your case is more acute?

[Panserbjorne]

Jane-that's ds's constitutional! He takes it at 10M though...but it's a perfect fit. Let me know how it goes!

Also I had to post this. Some of you may think I'm nutty, but here goes. For my birthday this past June my dear friends gave me a reading with an intuitive. I did it over the phone (she's in CA, I'm in CT) and it was really cool. Pretty cheap, too. She sends you a tape of the reading (for $5) so you can listen to it later. I remember the reading being very good, but that was the end of it. Until I pulled out the tape two days ago.
She NAILED just about every one of the kids allergies before I ever got the blood test. Even down to the degree of severity( she uses a 1-10 scale for all foods. 10 is nourishing, 1 is harmful and you shouldn't eat anything below a five. She named the foods that the kiddos were allergic to all below a five and some at a zero.) She talked about my liver being very damaged, and I just had testing about two months ago that revealed significant liver damage. She told me what minerals dd and I were deficient in. She also recommends supplements based on her numbers system for your body. For instance, Primal Defense came up great for me (9), but the GOL enzymes did not (2). She recommended the WOB enzyme for me.

Anyway, I'm talking to her again tomorrow to ask more specific questions. Last time she just sort of talked, and since I was thinking it was just for fun I listened. Now I have questions about particular foods, and supplements I want to try. I'll let you know (if you're interested) how it goes.
I normally wouldn't post this here, but I just discovered in listening to the tape that there were complete parallels between her reading and the allergy testing. You also get alot more (recommendations, deficiency reading and the best ways for YOU to deal with it) for alot less money.
Sorry if this was weird, but if it can help another mama...I guess it's just another form of testing?

[Pattyla]

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OT- To firefaery- I'm from CT origionally but not any more. I tried to pm you but you are full. I'm from Tolland. Where are you located?

[Panserbjorne]

My uncle's in Tolland! I'm in Pleasant Valley. My homeopath is in Woodstock, though-not too far from your old digs!

[Pattyla]

I just read on a raw milk site that to pasturize their milk heat it to 161 and cool it quickly. I am wondering if I'm killing off any good remaining enzymes on my low temp pasturized milk by heating it to 190 before cooling it for the yougart.

Can anyone explain to my why I have to heat it? I'm confused on that point.

[TopazBlueMama]

Originally Posted by JaneS

Yeah, tell me about it!

The test for low stomach acid is to take several betaine HCI pills with a regular meal. If you don't get reflux/heartburn, you might really need the extra acid.
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ooh I didn't know there was a test for it! I'll go try it out tomorrow, Thanks!

[toraji]

Originally Posted by Pattyla

I just read on a raw milk site that to pasturize their milk heat it to 161 and cool it quickly. I am wondering if I'm killing off any good remaining enzymes on my low temp pasturized milk by heating it to 190 before cooling it for the yougart.

Can anyone explain to my why I have to heat it? I'm confused on that point.

I don't know if this is why others do it, but I actually heat our pasteurized milk to boiling before cooling it down for yogurt. I do this because pasteurization apparently twists the milk proteins and makes them very indigestible, but if they are boiled then they break apart and become easily digested. I read about it in the Garden of Eating book.

If I had raw milk, then I would not heat it up before making the yogurt.

[ShannonCC]

So here's a question I'm about ready to try some goat milk/yogurt to see if it gives me excema like cow milk does. I googled and raw milk is illegal in NJ, so basically I'll be getting store bought goat milk, yogurt or cheese. Which would be the best to try? I know SCD says to make your own, but I want to see if I can even tolerate goat milk before I go to that effort.

Also, does goat milk have lactose in it? Because I'm also lactose intolerant so . . . . . . So many things to think of