Uh oh, false marketing on G diapers!!!??????? - Page 8

[hapi2help]

Bumping.....since they are being questioned again.

[wallacesmum]

i admit that i fell for the gpants because they were so cute, and when dh complained that they weren't very easy to use and leaked, i tried to stick to my guns. we prefer fitteds, and i am ebaying my gpants. okay, i feel better admitting that i was wrong. some day i will learn not to dig in so hard when dh doesn't like something!

[tparish]

Love my G's

I put cloth diapers in my G liner and I LOVE THEM!!! I don't do nearly as much laundry as I do with my regular clothies because they actually contain everything. I never use the flushables so sorry I can't get into that debate. However their cover are the best as far as I am concerned!

[sarahbay]

Originally Posted by tparish

I never use the flushables so sorry I can't get into that debate. However their cover are the best as far as I am concerned!

I thought the covers were terrible and leaked?? And the velcro at a weird angle scratched baby??

Looks like you haven't posted much on MDC, how did you hear about gdiapers?

welcome to mdc by the way :

[AdinaL]

They *have* redesigned the covers since this thread was started. So, they might be better than the originals. I used to work in a cloth diapering store though, and we heard both - the old covers fit better, the new covers protect better....and so on. Just like anything. :0

[green_momma2007]

I don't know about their environmental impact...but I diaper mostly to save money, not to save the world, and those diapers are REALLY expensive.

[nkdolin]

I'm using gDiapers with cloth liners

I really like the gDiaper fit and am using them with cloth prefolds. I haven't used the disposable / flushable liner yet (10 come in the starter pack) but I would in some circumstances. I am a recent convert to cloth diapers and still would revert to disposables in times of diarrhea/ travel so now I have a semi-better alternative.

[medicmama]

Originally Posted by odenata

from gdiapers.com (emphasis added):


In just 50-150 days, you can have sodium polyacrylate veggies to feed your children! Yum!

Also, on the directions for disposal page, it says:


Yup, no water wasted there.

Ok, I am pages behind in my reading but I just got a little sick to my stomach after reading this!


:Puke

[wifeairforce]

gdiapers

Let me start by saying that I respect all that you have said. And the fact theat you all have been able to use cloth is great. going all cloth I feel does save the most money If Done Right. For many moms the up front cost is too much when you live pay check to pay check, or if you have a child going to a daycare that wont use them.

for all those that use cloth ya the g's arent going to save you on time, cleanning, or money. But for those moms that use pampers, luv, and so on the gdiaper can help you feel like you are helping a little with the trash going to landfills.

I have been using the gdiapers with my DD for a year now and have had no problems. They flush well we have had very few leacks and that happens with all diapers. I can go all day with the same cover and only change the insert "flushable liner" . The g's were not my first choice but my DH is dead set against cloth. why, I doent know but out of respect to him we found the g's and they give me the savings over "regular" diapers and him the feel of regular. we only have 4 covers so we saved a lot of money over people who get 4-6 in each size.

As for the poopy ones they flush just like the wet. one flush is all we have ever had to use and most of the time some one else is going to the bathroom and we can flush 2 for one.

I hope I didnt hurt any feelings, this is only my view and what we go through. I do like gDiapers and will tell other moms to use them insted of other "trash" diapers. But I will always suport clother over them all.

[mehndi mama]

Whether they were better or worse than regular disposables was not the focus of the original post. The Gdiaper company markets these as a WATER SAVING ALTERNATIVE TO CLOTH. However, the only way they can use less water than cloth diapers is if EVERYONE composts every wet-only g-diaper....and then you still have the water trapped in the sodium polyacrylate crystals to contend with. We don't know how water can be recovered from the hydrated polymer when it goes to treatment facilities....what if it never has the opportunity to dry out and release the trapped water? Add that to the millions of gel-filled diapers trapping water in landfills....how can we get that water back?

FWIW, anyone with access to laundry facilities (and that would be anyone that washed their clothes instead of throwing them away after use) can afford to cloth diaper. Old towels, t-shirts and wool sweaters work great. http://fernandfaerie.com/frugaldiapering.html

[LawrenceDoula]

Part of the reason I cloth diaper is because I'm poor. My husband is in school full time and I'm a stay at home mom. I spent $100 on diapers and have received some as gifts. I could never afford to use anything disposable, even if part of it is reusable.

I guess I just don't understand the point of g-diapers. To me they still seem like a luxury item, but not one that is really any easier.

[mehndi mama]

It was pointed out to me by a friend who lives in NYC that g-diapers actually are a decent solution to big-city dwellers who live in older apartment buildings (no washers/dryers in the home, and crappy water pressure), don't have a car, and have to walk all their laundry to the laundrymat. And then there are the people who take them camping, because they can just go down the pit toilet after you rip them open.

Other than that.....yeah. Not exactly something that can be marketed as an ideal solution to much of anything. You're still not saving water. You're still not saving resources. And *surprise!* people are still throwing the inserts in the trash because they clog up their toilets and they don't have a compost pile.

[Bellita]

I was just talking to a mama the other day who uses them who told me there was no way in He** she would ever flush the insert part....for fear of clogging the toilet.

: I tried to sell her on trying some BumGenius.

[Talula Fairie]

Originally Posted by mehndi mama

FWIW, anyone with access to laundry facilities (and that would be anyone that washed their clothes instead of throwing them away after use) can afford to cloth diaper. Old towels, t-shirts and wool sweaters work great. http://fernandfaerie.com/frugaldiapering.html

That's not true. Have you ever used pay laundry? I've totaled up how much it cost me to use cloth at $3.50 a load (which is how much it would cost), 1-2 loads a day, and it would cost considerably more than buying sposies! I suppose if I had a huuuuuuuuge stash and a place to air dry my diapers that would help. But I have two kids in diapers and no way could I afford a stash that big.

I used cloth for two years (and when we only had one baby we did use pay laundry for awhile, and that was affordable, it cost about the same as disposables were or a tiny bit less. Although when you factor in the $200 cost to buy the stash of diapers and covers we were actually paying more than sposies would cost).

If you have your own washer and dryer, it's totally cheaper to use cloth. We do have a washer and dryer but where we are living now there are no hookups. We can ONLY use pay laundry which we share with 4 other apartments, and all have multiple kids. I definitely would be using cloth if I could.

I also never heard or saw anything about G diapers saving water over cloth. If anything the water they use is just about equal to what we use when we use cloth. I thought that was common knowledge?

Personally, having used cloth, and regular sposies, and G diapers, I definitely prefer cloth. But I really don't have a lot of choices right now. Once I move (and a washer dryer hookup is going to be a priority), then I'll definitely have my kids back in cloth. I really do like the G diapers for now. I like that I'm not throwing fecal waste into the trash, they don't smell as badly and they don't give my kids rashes like regular disposables do, and I definitely think it's better to flush your waste (just like you flush toilet paper later in life) down the toilet rather than throwing it into a landfill.

[mehndi mama]

Yeah, I have used the laundrymat to do diapers. For quite a stretch, at one time -our washer totally clogged and the bearings died, and it took us a while to get a different one.

The place I saw the "water-saving" claims was in the "about us" section on the website. Perhaps they've changed their tune? I'll have to go look!

[kittywitty]

1-2 loads of dipes a day? Really? I have a small rotation of dipes and I only wash them every 6-10 days!

[mehndi mama]

OK, here's where they talk about not wanting to waste water on washing cloth diapers:
http://www.gdiapers.com/fair-dinkum/how-it-all-began

[pamama]

When I had 2 in diapers I only did 1 load of diapers every 2-3 days , so that's only a couple extra loads a week, definiely cheaper than sposies if using a pay laundry, not sure if it's cheaper than g diapers as I've never priced them. We actually didn't wash more frequently with 2 in dipes, just did bigger loads. As for water useage cloth can't take that much water to wash since our water bill never inceased, or at least not enough for us to notice. We've never needed to do extra rinses and I've not ever stripped my diapers in over 6 years of using cloth. Dh checked, believe me.

Now I do generally use sposies for trips. We go away so infrequently and never stay away for very long. I don't want to waste any amount of a short vacation finding a laundry mat to wash. Our summer beach trip is usually about 5 days, the longest we've ever been away from home. We don't have the money to go away every year.

[holothuroidea]

Sodium polyacrylate IS safe for the environment. In fact, the process used to make it is much less harmful for the environment than the processes used to make laundry detergents.

If you use feminine napkins, you use sodium polyacrylate. The associated risk of TSS and tampons has nothing to do with what the tampon is made out of, but how much bacteria the tampon can hold (more absorbent tampons hold more bacteria).

They are biodegradable, which is a plus. However, it's like using a cloth diaper and a disposable at the same time. This uses twice the resources and is just plain stupid.

Whatever.

[bellacymom]

I would never buy those things. How are they much better than disposables besides being biodegradable? You have to pull the DIRTY pad apart dump the middle in the toilet use a stick to swish it around and wait for the toilet to start flushing and then let go of the liner. Then you have to wash the covers eventually. They seem to me like they would be a pain in the butt and more expensive than disposables because not only do you have the buy the incredibly expensive covers but the pads that go in them are as much per pad as a disposable diaper. ON top of all that they are not good for the environment? Uh yeah no thanks.