How can I get rid of ear infection w/o antibiotics? - UPDATED - Page 3

[macimom]

Will any of these help get rid of excessive mucus in the ear??

I wish I had seen this thread a few weeks ago...we ended up having tubes put in my ds's ears because he has excessive mucusy, nasty fluid that would not drain. We just took him back for a checkup and he STILL has the nasty stuff in there, his hearing is still impacted and I'm desperate to get it out of there. His speech is suffering. The Dr. prescribed some antibiotic drops, but I'm not willing to use them and feel there has to be a better way. Are any of these remedies safe to use since he now has the tubes in there??? My regular pediatrician has said we could try a little saline in there, but that's all she suggested. Any ideas???

Thanks so much!
Kim

[ssolberg99]

Thanks

My ds was diagnosed with his first ear (double) infection. I just gave him the first dose of abx, but I think I will try this stuff first.

[saimother]

i have read that nursing baby in lying position may cause accumulation of bm in ear and eventually ear infection. so can someone help me understand how bm (breastmilk) can help ear infection?

Originally Posted by Tummy

I had a horrific ear infection a few months back. Used no RXs and got rid of it.


#1 suggestion is.. CHIROPRACTOR!!!

#2 suggestion is GSE (Grapefruit Seed Extract) taken as directed.
stuff will kill anything in ya body, I've seen it get rid of a staph infection

#3 suggestion... BOOBIEJUICE The cure all!

[StarMomma]

Garlic ear drops with a fever?

Hello,
I took my 9 month old to the Dr today because he woke up with a fever of 102. The Dr. said he has infections in both ears and perscribes an antibiotic but my mommy instincts are telling me to fight this naturally. I bought the garlic drops that I read about here but they say not to administer when accompanied by fever? His ears are not oozing anything and the Dr said he thought we were catching this early on, but I am not sure if it is ok to use them or not? Have any of you administered the drops when fever was present. I am letting him burn it out without Tylenol, just sponge baths. This is the first time he has been sick so I am nervous. Please help.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by saimother

i have read that nursing baby in lying position may cause accumulation of bm in ear and eventually ear infection. so can someone help me understand how bm (breastmilk) can help ear infection?

It will help if put in the ear on top of the ear drum.

A nursing baby should NOT accumulate milk in the ear. If they do it is a much bigger problem and not at all the fault of the nursing. That baby should have their latch evaluated as well as their coordination and peristalsis of the tongue.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by StarMomma

Hello,
I took my 9 month old to the Dr today because he woke up with a fever of 102. The Dr. said he has infections in both ears and perscribes an antibiotic but my mommy instincts are telling me to fight this naturally. I bought the garlic drops that I read about here but they say not to administer when accompanied by fever? His ears are not oozing anything and the Dr said he thought we were catching this early on, but I am not sure if it is ok to use them or not? Have any of you administered the drops when fever was present. I am letting him burn it out without Tylenol, just sponge baths. This is the first time he has been sick so I am nervous. Please help.

I can't advise you on what to do. I *can* tell you that I wouldn't hesitate to use it on my kids. As long as the eardrum hasn't been ruptured it's fine.

Don't worry about the fever. IT's helping to build his immune system. You're doing fine mama!

[StarMomma]

Antibiotics schmantibiotics!

I just had to come back with an update this morning! Thanks for the advice Fire. I am on a "Natural Baby Care" high. I took him to the chiro for an adjustment last night and let him burn off his temp med free (I admit I almost reached for the Tylenol when he spiked at 103) with sponge baths and sock therapy. I did lymph massages, ear drops and nursed all night long and by 6 am his fever had broken! I am thrilled! He is a million percent better. Not fussy at all, playing and hasn't pulled at his ears once! I can't wait to take him to the Dr. next week and hand the perscription back to the Doc! This thread was a life saver! Thank you!

[Phoenix_Rising]

Originally Posted by Yin Yang

KALI MURIATICUM is another remedy that can be used to clear fluid out of the middle ear, used as a tissue salt (6x) several times a day.

ARSENICUM ALBUM is for pain mostly at night, better with warm compresses.

If I am going to use these with a child (27 months) how much would I use? Anyone know? The bottle doesn't say. . .

[Yin Yang]

Originally Posted by Susannah M

If I am going to use these with a child (27 months) how much would I use? Anyone know? The bottle doesn't say. . .

one to two pellets are enough. Does not matter how old the person is.

[Panserbjorne]

I do them as often as every fifteen minutes during the acute stage. FWIW I alternate Kali Mur with Ferrum Phos.

[Phoenix_Rising]

Originally Posted by Yin Yang

one to two pellets are enough. Does not matter how old the person is.

Oh, that is good to know. All of the homeopathics we have that DO have dosage information written on them is different depending on age.

Originally Posted by firefaery

I do them as often as every fifteen minutes during the acute stage. FWIW I alternate Kali Mur with Ferrum Phos.

Oooh, I even have the Ferrum Phosphate at home. Thanks!

[ErinsJuneBug]

Originally Posted by StarMomma

I just had to come back with an update this morning! Thanks for the advice Fire. I am on a "Natural Baby Care" high. I took him to the chiro for an adjustment last night and let him burn off his temp med free (I admit I almost reached for the Tylenol when he spiked at 103) with sponge baths and sock therapy. I did lymph massages, ear drops and nursed all night long and by 6 am his fever had broken! I am thrilled! He is a million percent better. Not fussy at all, playing and hasn't pulled at his ears once! I can't wait to take him to the Dr. next week and hand the perscription back to the Doc! This thread was a life saver! Thank you!

good job mama! I know how hard it is not to just want a quick fix. AND we were raised in a society where fever = bad. Not so - Fever is a GOOD sign that our immune system is working. Plus tylenol can cause hepatoxicity (toxic to the liver) so it may do more harm than good. Our bodies are not physically able to have a temperature over 106 - so its not like it can just go up up and up. There is an end point. AND its important to always remember that the higher the temp DOES NOT mean the more sick we are. I know in my daughters case she just runs high temps when she is sick - 103 is a pretty average temp and she is usually still running around acting totally normal.

Good job listing to your insticts - i hope your little ones ear infection passes quickly!

[delphiniumpansy]

We see a naturopath when we are sick. She prescribes garlic oil for ear infections if ear drum is intact. Along with limiting sugar and refined flour and taking zinc/C blend, that has mostly worked. If it does not, which was once, then abx are our next step. If infections were recurring and dietary changes did not help, I would take a little one to an osteopath for adjustment, not a chiro. I prefer chiros for adults only. But, adjustments are a good recourse for those with drainage issues affecting the systems of the body. Chiros for adults, osteo for children or adults. We get a lot of relief from them. I have much fewer sinus infections as a result.

As for the rest of the recommendations, I would not self medicate so I would always ask a qualified health professional before putting anything inside any of my orifices or my childrens.

I do not understand how mamas so interested in natural family living would think that colloidal silver would be ok. I mean, yes, it has antibiotic properties but it is silver. It builds up in your system and it can also cause bacterial resistance. I would much rather take an abx than knowingly ingest a metal.

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

Originally Posted by delphiniumpansy

As for the rest of the recommendations, I would not self medicate so I would always ask a qualified health professional before putting anything inside any of my orifices or my childrens.

But what if you have a Dr. like many of us do who knows nothing about natural remedies and only want to prescribe abx that do not work? And before you say find a new Dr. not everyone has the resourses to do that, myself included, I have to take my kids to the ped. that insurance pays for. These remedies mentioned here have been around since the begining of time almost and are proven safe and effective are they not?

[delphiniumpansy]

I would trust Dr Jay Gordon's website or some other very reputable doctor. I would still see a doc to make sure the ear drum is not ruptured. I would argue that many of these remedies have not been proven safe and in fact might be dangerous. Certainly, colloidal silver is very controversial. Why put a metal into your body?

Dr Gordon has some good, reputable advice based on scientific research. Also, I would find a good natural healing book for advice. I would get ideas from a website but never try anything medical without first consulting a professional. Many people have injured themselves over the years trying "home" or "ancient" remedies.


http://drjaygordon.com/development/a...ive/altear.asp

[Panserbjorne]

Everyone is responsible for their own decisions. for instance, in my posts I clearly stated what *I* would do in that situation, not what anyone else should.

I trust my body and have no interest in relying on someone else for my care. I take an active role in my care and for *me* relying on doctors who have no understanding of my experience will not result in health. True health requires self awareness and an innate understanding in your body and I take responsibilty for my health and the health of those in my care.

I have a brain and I use it. Frequently. I have no problem using a practitioner in rough times or if I am uncertain what I am dealing with, but i do not run to my doctor each time my kids express discomfort. if they have ear pain I may take them to a chiropractor (yes, a chiropractor-there are many that specialize and have diplomates in pediatrics) but otherwise I do treat them. I don't need to call the naturopath for every bump, bruise and scrape. It feels good to learn and apply knowledge and evolve in our understanding of health.

I don't think it's right to chastise people for trying to empower themselves. this is how we gain confidence and learn that our wellness is our *own* responsibility. Noone here is giving medical advice and I think that is pretty clear. You need to take the knowledge you glean and research it to decide what is best.

You said you would never try anything "medical" without consulting a professional...what does that even mean? What is "medical" in your eyes? And what qualifications are needed to be considered a professional?

I would love to see the statistics of those "harmed' by natural medicine and alternative remedies vs. those that were harmed by doctors. It would be an interesting comparison to be sure.

[Tanibani]

Originally Posted by delphiniumpansy

I do not understand how mamas so interested in natural family living would think that colloidal silver would be ok. I mean, yes, it has antibiotic properties but it is silver. It builds up in your system and it can also cause bacterial resistance. I would much rather take an abx than knowingly ingest a metal.

Did you see the man with blue skin (due to over-dosing himself with homemade colloidal silver?)

http://www.oprah.com/health/oz/slide..._350_104.jhtml

Our naturopath also helps us out during ear infections. She has the BEST garlic ear drops. Better than the stuff at Whole Foods. I've never taken CS though.

[Beanjeepin]

Everything in this thread seems to be "IF the eardrum has not burst". I suspect DS2's did last night and am going to the doc today and am trying to arm myself before I get there. What can I use if it DID burst other than ABx? This doc isn't my usual and is known to be Rx happy.

[cloak]

Originally Posted by delphiniumpansy

Why put a metal into your body?

I forget, don't your and your kids get vaxes with mercury and aluminum in them...or is it just aluminum?

We use breastmilk and garlic oil for ear infections. Works great.

[mamakay]

We see a naturopath when we are sick.

As for the rest of the recommendations, I would not self medicate so I would always ask a qualified health professional before putting anything inside any of my orifices or my childrens.

If you're going to a naturopath and using garlic, you are basically self medicating according to science-based medicine.