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post #81 of 95
A few more things to add.....

Recent studies have shown chewing xylitol can help with ear infections. Chewing gum after a meal helps, as does ingesting it and using a nasal spray containing it. I even cleared up an acute sinus infection that set in after a nose injury with the nasal spray!

For preventing recurring infections, we love the Gaia's Children Ear Drops. They are garlic mullein based, and since using them neither of my kids have had an ear infection. We use them whenever there is prolonged congestion or a severe cold. The only other thing we have used in combination during a cold or congestion is something to reduce the mucus buildup. Naturmade makes a natural version of Mucinex that is free of dyes and just contains guifenesin and other natural ingredients.

Removing dairy is a big help for reducing mucus too.

Best of luck to all!
post #82 of 95


My (3mth old) newborn has an ear infection (poor baby! ) and I don't want to give him antibiotics, especially since he's so young. So, I came looking to see if anyone else used breastmilk to successfully cure an ear infection. Someone responded...

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I just did this with my DS2 who had a double ear infection. I put 2 drops of breastmilk into his ears every 3-4 hrs or so for a few days. It cleared up quickly.

...on another thread, and that thread linked to this one. It's got so much awesome information, that I thought it was worthy of being bumped out of the archives. I'm not the first, however, as this thread has been bumped back out several times over the last two years.


Anyways, last night I started putting breastmilk in his ears every couple hours (every time he feeds). Interestingly, he stops fussing, crying and clawing at his little ear within a few minutes of putting the milk in. He's also far less fussy today than he was yesterday (so far). I'm not really sure how long to put milk in his ear to be sure the infection is gone; so I figure I'll do it for seven days (since antibiotics are usually a seven day thing).
post #83 of 95
: lovin mdc for all the help
post #84 of 95
Bumping! :

Pat
post #85 of 95
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Originally Posted by macimom View Post
I wish I had seen this thread a few weeks ago...we ended up having tubes put in my ds's ears because he has excessive mucusy, nasty fluid that would not drain. We just took him back for a checkup and he STILL has the nasty stuff in there, his hearing is still impacted and I'm desperate to get it out of there. His speech is suffering. The Dr. prescribed some antibiotic drops, but I'm not willing to use them and feel there has to be a better way. Are any of these remedies safe to use since he now has the tubes in there??? My regular pediatrician has said we could try a little saline in there, but that's all she suggested. Any ideas???

Thanks so much!
Kim
have you looked at food allergies? dairy is usually the main culprit. I took my DD off dairy and she hasn't had an ear infection since. She stopped snoring the next day. Prior to that, she had 9 ear infections in a 1.5 years.

XOXO
B
post #86 of 95
I have never heard of this until today but a friend just shared with me that she was advised by her nutritionist to use a dab of tea tree oil behind each ear, along the jaw line, on the neck/throat and the bottoms of the feet for her little one. She was given a prescription for antibiotics just yesterday but decided to consult with the nutritionist/homeopath to see what she might recommend. She joyfully shared with me today that she started seeing results within an hour of starting the homeopathic remedy & the tea tree oil. Just wanted to share.
post #87 of 95
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Originally Posted by Gitti View Post
When tubes are put into the ear, the eardrum is also busted and it drains. Why is it so dangerous when the eardrum bursts naturally so it can drain?
Because when tubes are placed, they are surgically placed and done in a way to try to minimize scarring. If they work (and thats a big if, because we all know people where they fell out immediately), the infection never happens because the fluid drains off continuously.

IMO its dangerous to have an eardrum repeatedly rupturing, because: 1. it hurts like hell from what I hear and is not pleasant. 2. you've had an infection that likely hurt like hell leading up the the rupture. 3. repeatedly rupturing in different places across the tympanic membrane would likely lead to more scar tissue in the long run than one surgery and a small precise incision.

I personally think any parent who has a baby with recurrent ear infections should explore food allergies (dairy in particular). There is something like 50 different proteins in dairy, any one can be an allergy. Try eliminating all dairy and see what happens. It can't hurt.

XOXO
B
post #88 of 95
My 2y/o started playing in her ears last week. She is battling a head cold so it's understandable that maybe she's got something going on in her ears too. I was using a homeopathic in the hopes of helping her. I made her an appointment and she's got a double ear infection.

Monday morning, we visited the chiropractor and I've been doing some accupressure massage to possibly help with draining. I was hopeful that it was working.

Tuesday night before bed, she told me her right ear is hurting. I gave her some oral earache drops for pain and put some colloidal silver in her ear. She can't stand ear drops and started crying. She is sleeping peacefully.

What are my options if she doesn't like the treatment method or cooperate to do the ear drops? I've thought of warming olive oil and garlic since those will be warm but I haven't attempted it. How long do I continue to let her body work this out before resorting to the antibiotics? Do I need to use the antibiotic?

We've always had great success rates with the chiro adjustments anytime there was ear pain but this is the first time we've had ear pain, adjustment and then ear pain again the next night.

TIA, for your wisdom and support.
post #89 of 95
Sorry she's having pain. I have not dealt with ear infections, just reading this thread for info, but are you doing other good immune boosting things, like sodium ascorbate? Do you have a homeopath you can call? Does she have a fever?
post #90 of 95
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Originally Posted by momofmine View Post
Sorry she's having pain. I have not dealt with ear infections, just reading this thread for info, but are you doing other good immune boosting things, like sodium ascorbate? Do you have a homeopath you can call? Does she have a fever?
Momofmine,

Thank you. Yes, we are taking measures to boost the immune system with extra vitamin C and a probiotic daily. Because she still enjoys nursing, I am taking a garlic clove and some echinacea/goldenseal drops daily too. We have a nutritionist/homeopath that we see and I just emailed her to get her wisdom/guidance too. She had a mild fever on Saturday night but hasn't had anything since. The earache drops I have are for ear pain so it appears that they help her.
post #91 of 95
I don't know, but my inclination is always that if the fever is gone they are on their way to getting better. Have you heard about the warming wet sock treatment? That is supposed to help pull congestion and such away from the upper body. It is very effective. I did it last week with both of my kids when they were sick. You can read about it here
This was counterintuitive to me at first, putting cold wet socks on my kids' feet with fever and cough. When they are sick, I am usually trying to keep their feet warm, but I did it, and I do think it helped. I think it is best if you do it three nights in a row. You can also do it after they have gone to bed, if you don't think they'll go for it, just be sure the feet are sufficiently warmed first.

I have also read that holding a warmed (but obviously not too hot) onion on the ear helps draw infection out, but I'm not sure if you could get a 2 yo to cooperate on that. I think you slice the onion in half, grill it or cook it or warm it somehow, with the cut side down. Be sure it's cooled down enough (maybe try it on your own ear first?).

I would probably go back to the chiro again tomorrow, if you can get in once more before Christmas. Hope she wakes up feeling better!
post #92 of 95
nak

my 3 y/o ds is currently battling his third ear infection. all three infections have been acute, with no other congestion or infections leading up to it (i thought i understood that ear infections are normally secondary infections) he had a mild one about a year ago, which i treated right away with garlic oil, and it cleared up quickly.

his second one was only three weeks ago, and it was terrible. he was inconsolable for a few hours, and was only eventually calmed down by being worn in the mei tai. it was the day after christmas, so i couldn't take him to the ped, and we were w/o a chiro at the time. i did call the chiro we were hoping to go to (i had just been slacking off on making an appt), but he was out of the office that day. i ended up calling the ped (he tends to not be rx-happy), who said that he thought it warranted abx; in his opinion, all of the pain indicated a possible bacterial infection (i don't know why, but that's what he said). at that point, i just wanted my boy to feel better, so we went with the abx (this was his first round ever, so i tried not to beat myself up, since most kids have probably had waaaay more by his age), and the ear drops rx'd by the ped. i also gave him garlic oil, and eventually gave in to tylenol (i HAD to be able to put him down; after like six hours of wearing him, i just couldn't take it anymore, and he was so miserable that he wouldn't let me). maybe two hours after abx and thirty minutes after tylenol, he suddenly told me that he felt better, and then he knocked out for the night, and he was pretty much fine after that.

early this morning, he woke up crying, and it was the same thing all over again. i did garlic oil (which he HATES), and wore him in the mt for hours and hours. again, i called the ped, hoping that he would not say abx, but he wanted to put him on another round, and have me bring him in tomorrow. i decided to bring him in tomorrow, but i'm not doing the abx. i'll be taking him to the chiro after the ped.

i'm soooo glad that i didn't give into the abx this time, because he's already feeling so much better. i did the garlic oil, and i gave him herb's for kids temp assure, and after a lot of sleep, he's pretty much back to himself. he's still a bit warm, but i'm waiting it out to see what happens.

i had chronic ear infections as a child, and was on abx after abx. my immune system isn't so hot now. i have no desire in going down that road for my kids, but i had to make a judgement call last time, and abx seemed to be the most appropriate at the time.


now that i've written a novel , here are my questions-

1) from how my mom has described what perforation sounds like in a child (from her experience with me- screaming, screaming, screaming, and then sudden relief, smiles, etc.), i think he ma`y have had some perforation this afternoon. he was having what was almost like a panic attack (and he is a pretty easy-going kid), and then all of a sudden he said, "mommy, i feel better!" he kept saying it for a few minutes, until he started to freak out a bit again, but then he went to sleep. there was never anything draining out of his ear; would there definitely be something coming out, if it really did perforate?

2) any guesses as to why the sudden onset of acute infections, with no previous symptoms? we don't think he's allergic to dairy (we were off of it for a long time [yes, longer than six weeks], because we suspected an allergy due to behavior issues, and there was never any change in behavior, bodily functions, etc; it also didn't come up on his IGg allergy blood test). i was going to say something else about this, but i've suddenly had a brain freeze...






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Originally Posted by pjabslenz View Post
I have never heard of this until today but a friend just shared with me that she was advised by her nutritionist to use a dab of tea tree oil behind each ear, along the jaw line, on the neck/throat and the bottoms of the feet for her little one.
except for the feet, i do all of this with the garlic oil. it just "came to me" to do it, so i'm glad that i went with my instincts!

Quote:
Originally Posted by momofmine View Post
I don't know, but my inclination is always that if the fever is gone they are on their way to getting better. Have you heard about the warming wet sock treatment? That is supposed to help pull congestion and such away from the upper body. It is very effective. I did it last week with both of my kids when they were sick. You can read about it here
This was counterintuitive to me at first, putting cold wet socks on my kids' feet with fever and cough. When they are sick, I am usually trying to keep their feet warm, but I did it, and I do think it helped. I think it is best if you do it three nights in a row. You can also do it after they have gone to bed, if you don't think they'll go for it, just be sure the feet are sufficiently warmed first.

I have also read that holding a warmed (but obviously not too hot) onion on the ear helps draw infection out, but I'm not sure if you could get a 2 yo to cooperate on that. I think you slice the onion in half, grill it or cook it or warm it somehow, with the cut side down. Be sure it's cooled down enough (maybe try it on your own ear first?).

I would probably go back to the chiro again tomorrow, if you can get in once more before Christmas. Hope she wakes up feeling better!
thanks for the wet sock link. the onion thing is mentioned a few times in this thread.
post #93 of 95
This is a copy of a recent post of mine regarding ear infections. Hope he feels better quickly.

Pat

Quote:

Diary intolerance is the number one cause of fluid build up in ears.

"In one study an astonishing 86% of the children tested became free of ear problems once they came off dairy food."
http://www.safekids.co.uk/EarProblemsAndAllergies.html
http://www.healthychild.com/ear-infe...ternatives.htm
http://www.vitacost.com/science/conc...infection.html
http://www.femail.com.au/ear-infections-truestar.htm

Additionally, I was just reading that chiropractic adjustments could help with ear infections. I didn't know.

Breast milk in the ear or garlic oil is supposed to help too.

Also, add vitamin C and whole food probiotics, such as yogurt for the immune system.

"In an October study in the medical journal The Lancet, researchers found that antibiotics for ear infections are only beneficial to children under the age of 2 with both ears infected. Study leader Dr. Maroeska Rovers, of the University Medical Center Utrecht in the Netherlands, said that researchers found that in most other cases, watchful waiting is OK."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16140545/#storyContinued
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/ear-infections/EI99999

http://www.webmd.com/parenting/news/...ics-vs-waiting

"Evidence has been building over the years showing most ear infections resolve on their own and antibiotics do little or nothing to speed the process. And, overuse of antibiotics leads to antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. The most important factor in treatment for ear infections is pain relief."


A landmark study published in Pediatrics has shown that treating ear infections with antibiotics has no benefit when compared to doing nothing. (McCormick 2005).
http://www.hpakids.org/holistic-heal...-Not-Necessary

My recommendation is classical homeopathy.
A friend's daughter had six rounds of antibiotics for ear infections and was scheduled for tube insertion. She saw the homeopath and gave her daughter the proscribed remedy. On return to the physician prior to the surgery, her ears were no longer infected. And she has had no ear infections since.

Our classical homeopathist first learned about homeopathy for her son with ear infections. Then she became schooled about homeopathy. I am a complete believer. Although, I still do not understand how it works. We are all on constitutional remedies and are rarely ever sick.

Another suggestion is Grapefruit Seed Extract. (Not grape seed.) GSE is also a natural anti-inflammatory. It is give orally, diluted in water. It tastes horrible though.

Here are some more ideas:
Garlic is a natural antibiotic.
Collodial silver is a natural antibiotic.
Vit C-large doses (natural fever reducer, iirc)
Cod liver oil- essential fatty acids help the immune system (We use Nordic Naturals -strawberry and our son loves it!)
Chamommilla is good for restlessness, discomfort, insomnia, unbearable pain; fever; child is impatient and angry.
Zinc lozenges help the immune system
Echinecea- We use Sambucol for Kids
Probiotics- for immune support, digestive system is 70% of immune system. Many of the serious side effects of cp are associated with a damaged gut, secondary to antibiotic use. Avoid antibiotics with cp and other viral illnesses.


And Dairy is the #1 culprit of fluid and mucus production leading to an environment conducive to ear infections.


Here is some info about homeopathic remedies (and treating ear infections).

* Aconite: Pain that comes on suddenly after a shock or chill.

* Belladonna: Severe throbbing pain; child is oversensitive and cranky.

* Chamomilla: Unbearable pain; fever; child is impatient and angry.

* Lycopodium: Pain on right side only; stopped-up nose; cold extremities.

* Magnesia phosphorica (or "homeopathic aspirin"): Pain reduced by the application of heat or pressure.

* Mercurius solubilis: Pain accompanied by swollen glands and sweating.



Do probiotics, cod liver oil, magnesium, vit. C, zinc, coconut oil, bone broths, green juices. Support the immune system. The gut is 70% of our immune system. Antibiotics damage the microbial balance in the gut.

Basically, you have to heal the gut to strengthen the immune system. Check out the "Healing the Gut-cheat sheet" at the top of the forum. http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=434071


Pat
post #94 of 95
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Originally Posted by BethSLP View Post
Because when tubes are placed, they are surgically placed and done in a way to try to minimize scarring. If they work (and thats a big if, because we all know people where they fell out immediately), the infection never happens because the fluid drains off continuously.

IMO its dangerous to have an eardrum repeatedly rupturing, because: 1. it hurts like hell from what I hear and is not pleasant. 2. you've had an infection that likely hurt like hell leading up the the rupture. 3. repeatedly rupturing in different places across the tympanic membrane would likely lead to more scar tissue in the long run than one surgery and a small precise incision.

I personally think any parent who has a baby with recurrent ear infections should explore food allergies (dairy in particular). There is something like 50 different proteins in dairy, any one can be an allergy. Try eliminating all dairy and see what happens. It can't hurt.

XOXO
B
Yep, that is me. Worst pain ever. And I have tons and tons of scar tissue now. I love going to a new doctor because the look on their face when they see inside my right ear is priceless

I am saving this thread, there are a lot of good ideas in here!

I do have a breastmilk question. I don't have any kids, so would anyone's breastmilk help ear infections? I can just see myself asking some of the Mothers at my day care center for some breastmilk for an ear infection But I might just to see if it works!
post #95 of 95

im not a mother im a teenager but i have tonsilitis and ive had this sore throat for almost a month now and its been getting worse. now i have an ear ache that hurts soo bad , i just want to know if this really really works because theres a whole bunch of other remidies and im not sure if those would work too .

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