Why are so many AP families low income? - Page 3

[Lucky Charm]

Can't we have both?:

(i do)

[DebraBaker]

Yes, the Little House books are amazing!!

Those people were so happy with few material possessions. They were happy with a full stomach and a cup, candycane, and penny for Christmas.

DB

[sohj]

"I breastfed because I knew it was best *and* because it was free. My MIL actually pushed to have us put our firstborn up for adoption because "you can't afford the formula" I kept saying I was breastfeeding but she kept assuring me I wouldn't be able to "

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GOOD GRIEF!!!!!!!

when I was six months along into the pregnancy, I had to wear pads in my bra because I was dripping colostrum every day. In the morning, when I got up and brushed my teeth, it was a steady stream. I never even considered that I wouldn't be able to BF and I was thinking that maybe I should be figuring on being a wet nurse to someone else, too, at the rate I was producing even before my pixie came along. I have also been the poster girl for breast feeding at work as I pump in the ladies' room. I was SHOCKED at how many people who said some variation of "Oh, I couldn't make the milk." I think that as long as you've got a diet rich enough in protein and fat, you probaby can feed. I think a lot of MD's/RN's don't give enough useful advice on it to the new mothers. then, we get innundated with the brainwashing to feed our kids something from a factory instead of from us! One woman I know, who gave birth to a 4 lb premie, was being told to supplement with similac because she was only able to pump out two ounces at a time. I told her to question the doc on that as a premie can't eat a whole lot at one go and it sounded like she was producing enough for the little kitten.

How do all these formula feeders think the human race got here? There were healthy babies before the medical-industrial complex, especially when the sewage didn't go into the local water supply.

[sohj]

By the way, I just was to add something to the AP discussion. i subscribed to Mothering because someone loaned me some back issues while I was preg. and it looked good; however, since then, as I've been looking at the board and the mag, I wonder: Why does this have to be almost a political - socio -cultural statement? Why is non-AP the norm? I was raised by loving but imperfect people (IE: HUMAN) who, without questioning it, picked me up when I cried, hugged me, listened to me, (ok, I was only bf for a week or so, my mother never had a particularily good diet and has always been exceptionially slim, only 82 lbs after deliv. by c-sect.) and raised me pretty well.

why does all this stuff have to be unusual? I cloth diaper because it works better than disposables...that is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I bf because of course I would, that's what they're there for. My son cries, I hold him. He's having trouble sleeping because of the teething, of couse we have him with us. No question. (He isn't in our bed every night because he often seems to sleep much better in his bed, but it is in the same room as us.) What's the big deal? why doesn't everyone do this?

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[DebraBaker]

I don't know if I'm normal but I didn't politicise it but, rather, other people treated AP practices like they were foreign.

I have been mistreated due to perfectly normal AP things like extended breastfeeding, co sleeping, and gentle discipline.

If there's a mechanism in our culture that encourages an unhealthy distance and emphasis upon materialism I guess I need to counterpressure with my own voice.

Its that simple.

Debra Baker

[3boys4us]

If there's a mechanism in our culture that encourages an unhealthy distance and emphasis upon materialism I guess I need to counterpressure with my own voice.

Its that simple

DB Great quote!

That should be my new mantra.

One thing I struggle with is trying to acheive that balance in life. That sometimes when hanging out with some people, I feel like we aren't acheiving enough for our kids (or have enough crap), other days I am so grateful for everything.

I must remind myself to be more grateful.

[mama2girls]

Originally posted by DebraBaker
I have been mistreated due to perfectly normal AP things like extended breastfeeding, co sleeping, and gentle discipline.

Sad, isn't it? I try not to criticise others parenting styles unless I feel that it will harm the baby (i.e. hitting your 3 yr old to "give them something to cry about" or trying to get a 3 week old on a sleeping all night riding daytime schedule with bfing).

But I've been wondering for most of my life why we can't just all get along and live in peace.

Would it harm me here if I admit I'm a closet socialist?