Women Who Make the World Worse/feminism - Page 2

[fluffernutter]

Originally Posted by Ruthla

I still can't help but wonder if the "men in the bible belt" are actually men, or women having things shipped to their DH's name.

Or, maybe the husbands are buying it in an attempt to get their wives under control.

[aisraeltax]

this is interesting...so, the fact that i am an attorney making on average at least 10% less than my male counterparts is my fault???
well...right now im a SAHM but when i work, thats the average stat.

i guess i never realized that. my last job i had an hour and a half commute, each way...on a good day. on a snow day or when there was an accident, forget it! it could have been up to 3-4 hours each way.

i guess women's tendency to speak out more re: domestic violence increased the incidents, since they now get reported.

theories like this, IMHO, really discount women.

[fly-mom]

Originally Posted by fremontmama

I agree with previous posts. I have a hard time with women who denigrate feminism. Don't they realize how much they owe to past feminists? that they even have a voice for everyone to hear or the opportunity to make arguments or interviews or be a lawyer (like this Kate). Urghhrr : is due to the work other people have made in the past!

crazy!

I agree whole heartedly. She does address that in the salon interview. She says she still would have been a sucessful lawer if feminism hadn't existed. I don't know how she thinks that would have happened! I think she has a really unrealistic view point and a warped sense of women's history.

Also, her points about single mothers seems kind of 'let them eat cake'ish to me. Ya know what I mean?

[lisalou]

The whole interview smacks of having cake and eating it too. She wouldn't stop the opening of med schools to women but doens't seem to realize that without feminism it never would have happened.

I dont think I'd want to read the book not even for fun b/c obviously this woman has decided what her world is in black and white and won't budge.

I'd love to see something middle of the road that did address some of the misperceptions and actual problems with some feminists without basically being anti-feminism.

[Danelle78]

Originally Posted by fluffernutter

Or, maybe the husbands are buying it in an attempt to get their wives under control.

You said what I was thinking. Southern Baptists are taught that women are to obey men. Period. End of story. Then contort the bible to fit their purposes. Growing up Southern, this is the main reason i have problems with organized religion.

I've put the book on hold at the library, somehow their copy is still on order. I want to see what this nutcase is trying to do.

[Danelle78]

I tried to read this book. I really did for about two weeks. And then had to return it, but was not sorry in doing so. Such a negative book that it drained me. I got tired of the complaining about everything they did wrong. Hindsight's 20/20 right?

Radical feminists seem to be to blame for everything from the divorce rate to the educational system breaking down to the military's problems. Including this woman being able to tell the world, I told you so.

I really can't comprehend what this woman was trying to accomplish by publishing this book. I do admit that I only read half. I read the introduction and thought, ok, she's going to make an argument about how feminists need to accept SAHM's, but that didn't happen and the bashing began with the first chapter.

I don't think she really believed that the feminist movement was needed. That it would have come on its own somehow. Of course she went to all-girls catholic schools growning up and her sons now go to all-boys schools...because the feminists ruined public schools. She states how she was doing everything these women were fighting for rights to do.

So her argument is that Everyone should be able to afford private same sexed schools? Is segregation by sex the way to fix this? The public world didn't NEED fixing because the answer was right there in a private Catholic school? So if you have money you are equal and the rest just get what they get?

Who really wrote this book??? Bush????

I went to public school. I went to a public college. I had family and friends that attended all-girls schools. And they are some of the biggest feminists I know. I don't understand where O'Brein gets her hairbrain ideas, and maybe the problem is I've grown up under feminist control and with public education. So I wouldn't understand.

[AngelBee]

I am interested in at least reading it. I think she brings up some valid points.

[Arduinna]

Anyway, she does the shipping and packaging, and said they've sold a BUNCH of these books, and most are going to men in the Bible Belt, and the few they sell in NY and other blue states are going to mostly women. I can't help but wonder if the blue states are buying them just to wonder WTF is up with that chick....

It would be an odd coincindence if those in the conservative states were all using their dh's accounts, while those ordering from the liberal states were women who used their own accounts, yk?

Actually I think it's more likely that those in relationships where men are considered the boss and in total control are less likely to have credit cards in their own name than women in more equal relationships.

[chellemarie]

Originally Posted by Ruthla

I still can't help but wonder if the "men in the bible belt" are actually men, or women having things shipped to their DH's name.

I live in an area where everybody knows just about everybody. In the event I were to become single again, I would have an unlisted number and don't care to be overly Google-able. I use my first initial or my husband's name for a lot of online ordering - particularly when I have to include our phone number. It's not because I don't share financial decisions and debt accounts with my husband. It gives me a sense of security and privacy that I am comfortable with.

[MountainLaurel]

Originally Posted by Meiri

I'm curious how the concept that women are full-fledged human beings deserving of the same dignities and rights as men makes the world a worse place.

Depends on what kind of world you want: If you think that women are less than full human beings, of course you're going to think that concept makes the world a worse place.

[flyingspaghettimama]

Oh my. I looked her up on Wikipedia and apparently she has worked as a policy wonk at the Heritage foundation, and is currently the National Review's Washington editor.

You can't be surprised when a cow moos, as it were. She's like Ann Coulter's ideological mother.

[Lucky Charm]

Originally Posted by MamaInTheBoonies

Well, I blame women like O'Beirne who try to push everything under the rug and place blame on other women.

Are they Ice Skating in Hell? Because I agree with MITB!

You said it, MITB.

Indeed.

[Viola]

Originally Posted by flyingspaghettimama

You can't be surprised when a cow moos, as it were. She's like Ann Coulter's ideological mother.

You always make me laugh, FSM. Why do people like this write books that get published and publicized? It should be considered a crime.

I think if I want to read this book, I'll try stealing it. Yeah, yeah! Or maybe I'll do what I did with some of the Ann Coulter books--cover them with Hilary Clinton's book.