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Clomid with out a prescription?

post #1 of 35
Thread Starter 
Would you take Clomid without a perscription? I know it can be bought from Mexico, and I'm starting to feel very desperate.

My story: Started ttc about 20 months ago- while nursing. Weaned dd about5 months ago. Had blood work done in December that indicated low progesterone, and I've had a short luteal phase- though I didn't chart last month/this month. My OB wants to do an HSG, and since I don't feel ready for that, its like I'm persona non-grata. Even though i think the low progesterone is a more likely problem (4.8 after O?).

I know it would make sense to see an RE, but I would have to pay out of pocket. so I'm debating taking things into my own hands. WWYD?

Is there any harm in trying? is this a really dumb idea?

TIA,
Laura
post #2 of 35
The Clomid is supposed to help with the short luteal defect. Did you ask your doctor if you could try that first?
post #3 of 35

I wouldn't do it....

I have taken Clomid (under Dr. supervision) and I (unlike most people) had very few side effects. I got pg. with my second and third (which I m/c at 12 weeks) children using Clomid. My only fertility problem seems to be that my body does not like to ovulate. Clomid is a very serious drug and I hear horror stories about people on it (under Dr. "supervision" ) but it's one of those drugs that Drs tend to hand out willy nilly sometimes and don't monitor close enough. My ob/gyn gave it to me...I never saw an RE, but I know a lot of people think THAT is bad. But I do feel like my Dr. took care of me. I was very thankful that I didn't have to use clomid for my current pg. though. I do have cycles for a while after a delivery...and I had just lost a child so my cycles were lengthening, but I was still having them when I got pg. this time. I probably would have stopped again in just a few months though, so I'm glad it happened when it did.

Oh and another thing...when you get drugs without a prescription...you don't really know for sure what you are getting. They've (okay, I don't remember who "they" is LOL) have randomly bought drugs off the internet and such and run tests on the drugs (that look completely legit) and have found other "ingredients" mixed in or even NO TRACE of the drug that was being purchased. Just be very careful. I've been tempted to do this with other drugs (not fertility related) and have always stopped myself...I do understand the temptation.

post #4 of 35
Thread Starter 
thanks for the advice. I'm having bad PMS right now, and its making thinking rationally about all of this very hard. However, dh feels pretty strongly that if I want to do clomid, I should call my OB and talk to them about it first. And I suspect that in a few days when my hormones calm down, I'll know he's right.
post #5 of 35
I also have a luteal phase defect. I got pregnant at least once without clomid resulting in a very early miscarriage due to the luteal phase defect--I only knew because I was charting. I had another early miscarriage with clomid. For me, I needed progesterone supplementation through the first trimester. My point is that I think it may be more complicated than just needing clomid and you need to see a specialist. That specialist may be willing to try without an HSG (mine was) but will want to do a sperm analysis--and I do recommend that before you take clomid anyway. Why put that into your body if there is another problem that needs addressed? Clomid isn't completely without side effects (and does have a 3-5% chance of multiples as well which has its own side effects). Good luck!
post #6 of 35
I did.

But like the above posters mention, you may not need clomid. I'd see an RE first.
post #7 of 35
I ordered clomid (which I had an RX for) from an internet pharmacy in Mexico. I paid $30 for 5 months versus $800 US dollars. The meds that I received were the same ones that I purchased at my US pharmacy, they were Aventis brand and in sealed bubble wrap from Aventis. No complaints whatsoever with the net ordering. I am anovulatory without the clomid. My body responded so well to finally having some hormones that I got overian hyperstimulation syndrome on just a low dose of clomid. Boy was that painful - big rupturning softball sized cysts. I did get pregnant the month I had ovarian hyperstimulation, though.

Because you mention you only stopped nursing 5 months ago, IMO it's too soon to take matters into your own hands. If you are fertile enough to have gotten pg in the past without fertility meds, your body might respond with hyperstimulation cysts.. especially if your progesterone is rising in the few cycles since weaning. I would say chart carefully using vaginal temps for the next 3 months, use ClearBlueEasy ovulation sticks, and see if you are getting a regular ovulation before going the meds route.

I don't think I'd bother with the HSG (which looks for obstruction) since you already have one pregnancy (how long did you TTC #1?). It's probably been ovulation suppression from nursing. Your hormones will hopefully level out soon. How long ago did you deliver baby #1?

I would just be afriad of you doing clomid on your own and your post-weaning hormone levels being on the upswing and you getting hyperstim cysts (and pregant at same time, like me) which can land you in the hospital.
post #8 of 35
I personally would not. There seems to be so much more to treatment than just taking the clomid (although I do know, for some, clomid is all they need). I'm on my first cycle with it and they did blood tests before to make sure all was well (not sure what all--kidney function and all that), did a baseline u/s, will do a follicle study, hsg (I had an ectopic rupture with my last pregnancy, so an hsg is very necessary), etc. I would feel very cheated if all they did was give me clomid and no monitoring/other testing.
post #9 of 35
I did and would do it again in a heartbeat. In fact, I'm pregnant because I did.
post #10 of 35
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the warning Kincaid. I had no clue there could be such awful side effects.

I concieved my first child the first month we tried- I was really lucky. DD is now 3.5 years. I am trying to just be patient for at least a few more months while my body gets over nursing.

It is so interesting to hear everyone's opinion on this!
post #11 of 35
I also ended up with ovaries on overcharge due to only 2 cycles of Clomid.

I would highly recommend at a minimum doing some research what the typical Clomid cycle is (I can recommend several infertility books if you don't have one yet - I checked out quite a collection from my local library. :-). After you have done the research, talk to your OB about whether he/she thinks clomid will help you. Then you should discuss what monitoring they will do and make sure that you are comfortable with that. I posted more specifics in the "Clomid without Monitoring" thread. :-)
post #12 of 35
B/c of OHSS I would not. I have used clomid several times and NEVER had any problems (up to 250mg) except some vision issue with tracer lights. However my friend used only 50mg of clomid and over stimmed and ended up losing a tube, I am sure not the norm HOWEVER chancing it wouldnt be something I personally would do...I would see the RE 1st and be monitored.


PS and I have ordered many times from Medsmex and O'd on it. Just no pregnancy, onto letrozol this cycle.
post #13 of 35
this is from: http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/clomid.htm

7. Are there any side effects from Clomid?
Clomid can interfere with the ability of the cervical mucus glands to be stimulated by estrogen to produce fertile mucus. Only "hostile" or dry cervical mucus may develop in the days preceding ovulation. Robitussin may help to improve the cervical mucus.

The most common side effects are hot flashes due to the body's hormone levels and a mild headache. The headache usually disappears once the last pill is taken, and the hot flashes once ovulation has occurred. Visual symptoms such as spots, flashes or blurry vision are less common and indicate that treatment should stop.

8. What about multiple births as a result from Clomid?
Clomid is a low-level fertility drug. The chances of a multiple birth (twins) increase only by 10% while taking Clomid.

9. What about ovarian cysts? I've heard Clomid can cause them.
Yes, you can get an ovarian cyst while using Clomid. An ovarian cyst will dissipate on its own, though. It is, however, necessary for your ovaries to be checked for cysts before any additional dosages of Clomid are administered. Clomid could cause an enlargement in an ovarian cyst.
post #14 of 35
FYI, although use of Clomid does have a low risk of multiples, remember that all sorts of interesting things can happen when you start messing with your body. My therapist's wife got pregnant with QUADS by taking Clomid - nothing else. Her OB had even told her that she wouldn't be having a litter or anything! :-O They were not amused when they found out they were having four babies.

The odds of this happening are very slim, but it does happen. And a pregnancy with quadruplets is VERY high risk and very dangerous for both momma and babies. They are very lucky that she did pretty well during the pregnancy and that all four of their babies seem to have no long term problems.
post #15 of 35
I have ordered off the net (not Clomid though), and from what you tell me, I'd be more inclined to supplement with p. That's what I did.
post #16 of 35
i just finished a run of clomid i got from mexico. it made me constipated. i hate that but a little senna tea fixed it. it also made me not have much of an appitate in the AM and it might have made me a bit weepy. (certainly nothing worse than the horrible PMS i have had since my son was born)

i am certainly willing to put up with these kinds of side effects for chance at a baby and a complete pregnancy.

am am also supplementing with B6, vitex and EPO, and will use progesterone when i ovulate.

i think if you are used to caring for your own health at home, using a drug like clomid is no big deal.. if you are someone who relies on a doc for your medical care, then you might feel uncomfortable doing it.

post #17 of 35
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Originally Posted by peilover010202
I have ordered off the net (not Clomid though), and from what you tell me, I'd be more inclined to supplement with p. That's what I did.
just so you know, in order for progesterone to help, you need to start using it the day after ovulation. you should only use it until week 10 of a pregnancy.
post #18 of 35
"i think if you are used to caring for your own health at home, using a drug like clomid is no big deal.. if you are someone who relies on a doc for your medical care, then you might feel uncomfortable doing it."

I strongly disagree with this. How was I supposed to be "in touch with my body" to know that my ovaries were producing too many eggs? If I had taken Clomid for a third cycle without having an ultrasound to check my ovaries I might have ended up with OHSS which can be fatal. Do you really think you can tell what your ovaries and your body are doing by just "being in tune with your body?" I think that is foolhardy at best and very dangerous at worst.
post #19 of 35
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Originally Posted by RosesToys
"i think if you are used to caring for your own health at home, using a drug like clomid is no big deal.. if you are someone who relies on a doc for your medical care, then you might feel uncomfortable doing it."

I strongly disagree with this. How was I supposed to be "in touch with my body" to know that my ovaries were producing too many eggs? If I had taken Clomid for a third cycle without having an ultrasound to check my ovaries I might have ended up with OHSS which can be fatal. Do you really think you can tell what your ovaries and your body are doing by just "being in tune with your body?" I think that is foolhardy at best and very dangerous at worst.
we all have different levels of what we are comfortable with. "might have ended up with OHSS" might be something that feels very dangerous to you, but not to someone else. unassisted childbirth seems an incredibly risky choice to many, but not to all. in fact some women would think that birthing in a hospital is a risk they are not willing to take, and many women couldn't imagine birthing anywhere else. what feels safe is different for everyone.

i know many women who have taken clomid from mexico and none who regret it, though it didn't work for all of them. none that i know of had any terrible side effects or bad things happen. though i'm sure one or two of them might have ended up with OHSS.
post #20 of 35
i found these on a clomid forum.

http://www.inciid.org/clomidberger.html
http://www.conceivingconcepts.com/le...cles/0020.html
http://www.wdxcyber.com/ninfer10.htm

they are pretty plain about side effects and risks.

FYI only.
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