Where will you birth your child? - Page 6

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HB in Japan...

Earth Mama,
You should dig a little deeper into homebirth in Japan! I know I've read about it recently. If I come across it again, i'll post again.

[DavinaT]

Posting from Ireland

Ah I see what you mean now, Chicky2, the comparison was between and forced natural birth rather than the woman wanting it and being prepared. Yes, of course it must be an awful shock to be expecting an epidural and discovering it was too late and having to manange on pethidine and gas & air (and other appropriate pain meds) alone.

littleteapot - 44 hours in labour. Wow, you must be one strong strong lady. In hospitals here (home birth being different) labour is not allowed to continue past 14 - 18 hours, without intervention except on the express wish of the mother with the obs/gyn's consent.

A completely unmedicated, 20-minute wisdom tooth extraction ?? Now that is something that is NEVER permitted here. In fact, I suspect strongly that any surgeon attempting it would be struck off. Wisdom tooth extractions here are generally done under full aneasthetic in hosptal. They MAY be done in certain rare circumtances in a dental surgery under local aneasthtic with HEAVY HEAVY sedation.

You had a c-section when your son was crowning - oooh, you must have been in a very tough situation. Hugs to you.
I guess my view on c-section was influenced also, when a close friend of mine had one electively and was recovered, tho' still a little sore in about 3 weeks and back driving after 4 and half weeks. I take it that this then is little unusual. Of course I relaise that again, an elective section is quite different from an emrgency one.

[littleteapot]

Originally Posted by DavinaT

A completely unmedicated, 20-minute wisdom tooth extraction ?? Now that is something that is NEVER permitted here. In fact, I suspect strongly that any surgeon attempting it would be struck off. Wisdom tooth extractions here are generally done under full aneasthetic in hosptal. They MAY be done in certain rare circumtances in a dental surgery under local aneasthtic with HEAVY HEAVY sedation.

You had a c-section when your son was crowning - oooh, you must have been in a very tough situation. Hugs to you.
I guess my view on c-section was influenced also, when a close friend of mine had one electively and was recovered, tho' still a little sore in about 3 weeks and back driving after 4 and half weeks. I take it that this then is little unusual. Of course I relaise that again, an elective section is quite different from an emrgency one.

On the tooth extraction... I'm allergic to most pain meds, and adrenaline. The dentist was very experienced and had never had a tooth take more than 30 seconds in his career. Because I couldn't have the adrenaline, the shot they gave me would wear off in under two minutes completely. They were only allowed to give me three shots in total and NOTHING else was available to me that I could have.
So, thinking that two minutes was plenty of time he went ahead and gave me two shots and then started pulling. It hurt immediately, and TERRIBLY and I started screaming. He asked me if it was pain or pressure and I was already loopy from the pain so I said, "I don't know, just keep going". He had to brace his foot on the chair and it took him almost 20 minutes to get it out. The "pain medication" they gave me wore off after about one minute. The tooth had roots an inch long and were curve inward and up underneath.
However, I didn't have a single second of pain after the tooth was out. I didn't even take a Tylenol. I suppose I paid for it all in advance!
I screamed so much the assistants at the station started crying! They came in and held my hands, but I only vaguely remember that. My mother told me about it later.

On the c-section: they didn't find out he was frank breech until he was on my perineum, despite my telling them otherwise. They "don't do" breech there, even though I was prepared to deliver him that way. I only went into the hospital because I was in preterm labour (34 weeks). It was a very, very complicated situation. It was completely unnecessary.

As for recovery, I was told I recovered "Really fast". I was having sex within two weeks and resuming normal activities by 3-4 weeks. But I certainly did NOT feel like it was a "Good" or "fast" recovery at all. Compared to my recovery with two days of hard labour? I'd do that again any day.
A few days of feeling sore vs. weeks of intense burning pain from the incision, the numbness, the violation and losing the ability to say I ever "Gave birth" (ripping my abdomen open and taking my baby out is NOT 'giving birth'. I did nothing. I was unconcious.)?
Sorry, no contest! Natural birth ALL THE WAY!

[DavinaT]

Posting from Ireland

Oooh you poor thing - the wisdom tooth extraction sounds like some sort of torture.
I guess that is why they do them under full aneasthetic here (or lots of local with heavy sedation). Not sure if dentists here use adrenaline but I do know that lignocaine (injected for local aneasthetic) makes a lot of people sick (nausea). So we end up on nausea meds first, then lignocaine (5 shots for my last dental procedure - felt like my whole head was numb) , then more nausea meds.

Ooh sounds like you were in a really tough situaion with your son and the hospital just didn't listen to you. That happns here from time to time too and it makes me really :
Please tho', don't feel as tho', you did nothing. You carried him, nurtured him. sustained him. He came into world thru you. Thru your body. And you continue to nurture all your babies, emtionally and psychologically as well as physically .
I gues elective sections are different in the sense that there is no emergency and both the mother and surgical team are calm and prepared and unless on request, is usually done under epidural.

[littleteapot]

Originally Posted by DavinaT

Ooh sounds like you were in a really tough situaion with your son and the hospital just didn't listen to you. That happns here from time to time too and it makes me really :
Please tho', don't feel as tho', you did nothing. You carried him, nurtured him. sustained him. He came into world thru you. Thru your body. And you continue to nurture all your babies, emtionally and psychologically as well as physically .
I gues elective sections are different in the sense that there is no emergency and both the mother and surgical team are calm and prepared and unless on request, is usually done under epidural.

I'm not saying it out of self-pity, I'm saying it because it's a fact: in a c-section you don't "give birth". The phrase "giving birth" implies that you birthed the child, but you don't. The doctors who pull him out of your stomach did. In a c-section you do nothing but lie there numbed up (or in my case, completely unconscious). You really don't do anything at all during the "birth" process.
I have given birth once, to my daughter. It was wonderful; and I'll do it again.

I have no idea why they put me out, I think perhaps because they felt they didn't have time to wait for an epidural to kick in. I also don't know if I'm allergic to that, but I have been put under general anesthetic before.

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[leurMaman]

Littleteapot - why did you get an unmedicated wisdom tooth extraction? Were you pregnant? Just curious. Ouch!

editing - I see...found your reply. Oh my - you poor thing!

[DavinaT]

Posting From Ireland.

bertrandsgirl - I'm just curious, but why would a dentist do an unmedicated extraction on a pregnant lady?
I would have thought the shock and pain alone would be bad for her baby as well as herself.
Not sure about were you ladies are but here those who are pregnant get top priority for all dental treatment - includinf orthodontics (related to clacium depletion caused by pregnancy) and the state pays
There's another benefit to being pregnant
- the only disadvantage being that some dentists are a little unwilling to give nausea meds in the first trimester without your obs/gyn's sayso.