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post #21 of 72
This sounds great! Will the ivory work on dipes? We have average water...not hard, not soft.
post #22 of 72
Originally Posted by Boobs
Tide and Tide Coldwater and fabric softener...he uses the recommended amounts on all of them.
Any advice on how to convert him??
I don't know about conveting but we use ecover detergent and fabric softner and it has a wonderful frangrence. Our hard water beats the scent out of regular detergent but you can still smell it with the ecover. that might be normal enough for him but still more natrual. and it even cost less than tide.
post #23 of 72
Originally Posted by rabbithorns
Isn't it also true that if you have hard water you hae that soapy feeling in your hair after you wash it? I mean, while it's wet, you feel like you still have soap in it even though you've washed it out?
Thats soft water.

hard water you feel squeeky clean. literally. You can be 100% sure you have no soap anywhere on you. even though you probably do. Soft water actually rinses cleaner. you jsut feel soapy still.
post #24 of 72
I usualy put a cup of salt in for a wash. But only went to that trouble for diapers and only when I ran out of calgon.
post #25 of 72
I am all ears (or eyes?). Anyway, I am thinking it would not been good with dipes. But i am all about trying it with our clothing and stuff. I am looking for any way to save money.

How processed is Ivory Soap? Is it OK for water supplies?
post #26 of 72
Also, could I use a food processor to grate the soap? I am almost embarrassed to admit that I don't own a hand garter
post #27 of 72


OK, so I said it worked.... but it really didn't.

I used the Ivory soap (added a dash of salt; will use more next time) and thought the clothes were clean. Until I smelled the armpits of the shirts, DH's socks, which ALL stink : So what did I do wrong??? I have only cold water to wash in, used the soap (2 TBS), used a regular wash cycle instead of economy cycle. Any suggestions?
post #28 of 72
if you have hard water you will need considerably more soap than if you had soft water. that could be part of it. you may want to try rubbing soap directly on to armpits and socks and then adding a little bit more to the general wash. Aslso cold water might not disolve it and disperse it well . . maybe disolving it in hot water and adding that to your wash.
post #29 of 72
I heard that you should mix the grated soap with washing soda and some borax and then use a small amount of that in your wash. I wasalso told that it won't make suds, but does a great job getting your laundry clean. I have a 4y/o that is very sensitive to cleaners, fragrances, etc. It seems like he always has a rash. I thought maybe switching from commercial laundry detergent would help. I already use vinegar in the rinse. I was just worried about it getting the clothes clean. My DS manages to GRIND every bit of dirt, food, art supplies into his clothes. Does this work on really grimey clothes??
post #30 of 72
so how does it work if you use vinegar and baking soda? how much of each in a load of wash?? (looking for a diaper load)

post #31 of 72
Apparently my great grandmother used to use the little pieces of soap (you know the ones you lose in the shower?) and dissolve them in warm water. She kept this mixture around for washing clothes or hair. My mom suggests this for cold water washing so that the soap pieces dissolve entirely and don't stick to clothes.

I am looking forward to trying this method.
post #32 of 72
Interesting ideas, thanks!
post #33 of 72
There's no reason Ivory wouldn't work on diapers because the original grated soap called Ivory Snow was what I used 20 years ago on my kids' diapers! They just don't make it already powdered anymore.

I think it's just that most people nowadays don't remember using the Ivory Flakes or Ivory Snow, so plain soap has become some sort of mystery. Plain old lye soap, castille soap for vegetarians, is always better than detergents which are some semi-petrochemical science experiment. It's just that we've forgotten how to use soap! If you're going to throw stinky or stained laundry in the basket and let it sit for three days or more, don't expect soap to fix that. When Grandma used soap, she treated the stain or armpits to a soapy soak and then dropped it in the basket to wait for washday. Don't expect soap to do ALL the work like Tide and Spray'n'Wash. Those are the same chemicals used to clean up after the Exxon Valdez spill, BTW, so unless you have an environmental disaster in your laundry room, you don't need more than soap and a little elbow grease.
post #34 of 72
Wow! Thanks for the info! I'm going to go grate some Ivory soap now!

Anyone have specific instructions for doing dipes in it??
post #35 of 72
Over here in the uk soapy mixture to use instead of washing powder is called Gloop.

I've used it and variations on it especially when dd was in cloth nappies but lately I've been buying bulk cheap powders from Lidl (a German store here) and using very little of it with vinegar to rinse which is a bit naughty
I still use grated soap in bottles for handsoap though.

There's a recipe here http://www.gaia-exchange.sunmaia.net/ Click on the washing link on the left.

You dissolve the grated soap first and mix with washing soda and water which is why it is called Gloop!
post #36 of 72
I just checked out Ivory soap and it's made by procter & gamble. (They make EVERYTHING, I swear! ) I try to avoid using their products, because they test on animals.

Anyone have an alternative to Ivory that they like?
post #37 of 72
This is what I do.
I use store bought laundry detergent, the super cheap stuff from Costco, but I make sure it is bio-degradable and phosphate free.
Then I use less than 1/4 the recommended amount.
My clothes come out really clean. I use so little detergent that I feel confident there is no detergent residue on my clothing.
And I feel that my choice is still an environmentally conscious improvement (if not perfect) because I am reducing the amount I use by a great deal and while the product is not natural, it is at least biodegradable and phosphate free.
The huge bucket costs about $10 and lasts me several months.
post #38 of 72
Ivory also has sodium tallowate in it (LARD), so I don't use it b/c of that (and the P&G thang). Sooo, we have Kirk's Castile soap at our grocery store, and I've had good luck with that. It's pretty inexpensive, all natural, animal friendly and it smells good. I grate it and mix it with borax and baking soda (equal parts) and use about a tablespoon of this mixture in my front loader.
post #39 of 72
does anyone have any experience with using soap in a front loader? i found it really cleans our clothes well, but i had to add water to our front loader via the detergent dispenser, to prevent over sudsing.
post #40 of 72
I just wanted to address the original question about how bad commercial detergents are. They are full of chemicals (even if they are phosphate and fragrance free) that are harmful to our bodies. They leave residues that can be absorbed into your skin. The main problem is pthalates which are preservaties. These are endocrine disruptors. Many companies hide the chemical ingredients behind the fancy names or they can just be listed as fragrance. It is difficult to discern if they actually contain the ingredients. I will try to find the specific info if anyone is interested.
I am curious to hear more about how it works long term w/ soap and frontloaders. I also do dipes and from what I had heard and learned over the past few years there isn't a really natural and effective way to get the dipes clean w/ out lots of build up. I am hoping to find some success stories here!
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