Originally Posted by myhoneyswife
People will use the 'no harm came of it and it didn't cost you anything' for vaxes without consent, CPS 'holding' the children for a week while things are looked at, and even circing without consent.
Hang on a second. There's a HUGE difference between testing an adult for a substance ingested voluntarily, and INJECTING a substance forcefully into a child.
What on earth would make you even compare the two?!?
Bottom line is if you do drugs, don't go to the hospital where they might test you. It's common sense honestly, ESPECIALLY if you're pregnant.
It's realistic to expect that if you go in for premature labor there's a really good chance you'll get a tox screen. Duh. Why? Because some drugs (legal and illegal) can trigger premature labor and they do it to rule out drugs as a cause, so they'll know more specifically how to treat it. Truthfully it's being medically responsible and proactive in some cases, especially if the life of the baby or mother is at stake. And most drug users wouldn't give consent voluntarily, and their lives or that of their child could be at risk as a result.
If a pregnant woman comes into the hospital in premature labor but is semi- or unconscious, then of course they're going to do a drug test.
And if she comes in dead sober and wide awake, they STILL will, because not everyone's honest about what could be the cause of the premature labor and if they tried to treat you with certain medications that could interfere with the drugs you've taken it could worsen things or be deadly even.
It's not like they're sitting there testing you for jollies. Geez. You think they just sit around all day bored waiting on a pregnant druggy to come in so they can ruin her day by testing her? They're usually kind of busy -- they've got lives to save. Being pissed at them for doing their job is pointless.
And if you're in the hospital for premature labor then it's pretty freaking serious. You're there because it's an emergency situation, and a tox screen isn't forced medication, poison, nor a life-altering disfigurement, as you've compared it to. It's a TEST. And in an emergency, it's to be expected.
Sheesh, common sense. We live in a country where drugs are illegal. I'm not saying it's right or wrong AT ALL but that's how it is -- if you're pissed over it, and want to do those illegal drugs while pregnant that's your right as a human being, but if it pisses you off that you get caught when you go in for an emergency like premature labor, then avoid the hospital and pray a lot. But to say it's an invasion of your privacy and shouldn't happen, when it can help determine why something has gone wrong and has put you or your child's life at risk is being UNREALISTIC.
Is it unfair for them to test you for drugs when you come in for a problem during pregnancy? Well no shit. Being tested without permission sucks. But fairness unfortunately becomes irrelevent in an emergency. And in a fair world, everyone would be honest too. And in a fair world no one would NEED drugs.
Look, I'd be pissed too if I randomly got tested like at the grocery store one afternoon because I have red hair, or some random doctor "I've got a cold" visit, because those would be without ANY evidence or provocation on my part.
But when it comes to pregnancy and emergencies that's a whole different ball of wax. It's not just your health and safety but that of your unborn child. And if it's a serious enough problem that requires you to go to the hospital then you SHOULD expect to have every possibility and cause considered and that includes drug use.
Deal with it. If it pisses you off, write your congressman. But deal with it because it's REALITY.
But don't condemn those of us who say if you go into premature labor expect to be tested, by comparing us to people who would inject poison into children or physically maim them without permission.
I'm horrified and offended that anyone would dare say such a thing. There's a huge difference between an adult getting caught having done drugs and forcing drugs into a child.