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post #161 of 422
That dairy looks like a must-visit 2babybees. Oh, I miss Ann Arbor.

You could ask how much grass they get, how many cows to an acre (and maybe someone knows what this will mean ). But it looks like a pretty good place.

Definitely, don't get homogenized milk. I've used a lot of pasteurized milk in the past but we're moving to all raw and cutting back on the amount since it could pay for college otherwise.
post #162 of 422
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post #163 of 422
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Originally Posted by 2babybees
Speaking of milk...my raw source has fallen through...Which is better NT-wise?

1. pasturized, non-homogenized whole milk non organic
2. pasturized, homogenized whole milk non-organic

I am waffling between the two...
tough one- I'm torn on that too.
On one hand, I think homogenized milk is very bad. On the other hand, ethics play a big part in my thinking on animal products.
I got some non-homogenized milk in a glass container from a hfs. It's not organic, but it says - no hormones, no pesticides, etc... So...health wise, I'd go with non-homogenized and mostly-organic-but-not-certified kwim?
I emailed and asked if the cows were pastured, and haven't heard back...
post #164 of 422
Does anyone else see other people purchasing "food" (and I use that term loosely ) in the store and just have the nearly uncontrollable urge to grab them and say, "Do you have ANY IDEA how bad that is for your body?!?!?! WHAT are you thinking? Eat real food, from real plants and real animals raised on real soil and real sunshine and real food themselves!"



/end rant
post #165 of 422
Yes, totally. But I know saying anything like that wouldn't be taken as generous or concerned!
post #166 of 422
Yeah, the only thing that stops me is the thought that DH would be rather upset if he had to come bail me out of jail because I accosted someone in the grocery store.
post #167 of 422
Oh yes, definitely. Especially when there are kids being fed.

Amanda, my goal in life is to move back to Ann Arbor! (well, my short term goal at least, LOL.) I even put in an order to Zingermans.com today. I wonder how their country french sourdough will taste after 2 day delivery... I just had to have some.

-Kelly
post #168 of 422
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Originally Posted by Boadicea
Does anyone else see other people purchasing "food" (and I use that term loosely ) in the store and just have the nearly uncontrollable urge to grab them and say, "Do you have ANY IDEA how bad that is for your body?!?!?! WHAT are you thinking? Eat real food, from real plants and real animals raised on real soil and real sunshine and real food themselves!"



/end rant
most definitely...with everything....food, vax's, formula, medical care..etc....lol
post #169 of 422
Baby2bees, I know it is a long way, but I get raw milk from a farm in St. John's South of Lansing. I think there might be some milk groups ffrom the Detroit area. If you are really wanting raw milk this is an option, you could call the farm and ask if they have customers from your area, then you don't have to make the trip every week. It is a 1 and 1/2 hour drive roundtrip for me, so I go every 2 weeks and think it is so worth it. PM me if you are interested.

Geez, I am just wondering why you all want to move back to Michigan?! I am trying to get out of here! THis has been the worst winter!!! (of course I live on dirt roads that are horrible and a small town that I hate. Never been to Ann Arbor though, so can't compare. If I do end up stayin g in Michigan it is one area on my list though along with West Michigan. Right now I live in conventional farming central, flat farm lands with tons of chemicals and sorry to say my father is one of them. He's heard it from my brother and I for years though
post #170 of 422
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Originally Posted by mountain mom


3. So now that I have a few raw milk products (skimmed milk and cheese) doea that mean cooking with them would be like pastuerizing them? Can I make pudding with them? Is mixing cheese into a soup or casserole going to make it no longer "raw"? I have that same question with fermented veggies. I have a great sauce I would make with sauerkraut but am not sure if heating it bad.
I always add the ferments in after the meal is prepared. I don't heat them but I do stir in Craut into soups and serve. I don't eat unfermented dairy as I find it too mucous forming for me so I always make yogurt or kefir from milk.

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Thanks for the help!

What about melting raw cheese? Like cheese sandwiches or in quiche? Does that undo the good of raw?
post #171 of 422
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Does anyone else see other people purchasing "food" (and I use that term loosely ) in the store and just have the nearly uncontrollable urge to grab them and say, "Do you have ANY IDEA how bad that is for your body?!?!?! WHAT are you thinking? Eat real food, from real plants and real animals raised on real soil and real sunshine and real food themselves!"
me too! i was totally critiquing all the sugar in the cart in the guy behind me yesterdat (i had sprouts and the tomatoes i needed for making pizza, so he was probably judging me). plus, when i saw the new print ad for wheat thins "with whole grains" i got so angry. those things also have hfcs in them (i discovered last year when trying to clean the pantry of hfcs). i used to love them. and triscuits. sigh.

actually, i don't miss them.

my sister jokes--"she won't eat that because it's POISON!" but she likes what i cook.
post #172 of 422
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Originally Posted by Yooper
Thanks for the help!

What about melting raw cheese? Like cheese sandwiches or in quiche? Does that undo the good of raw?
Occasionally we make grilled cheese with raw cheese but the texture isn't as good as when its raw. I shred cheese to put on top of chilli and soup and add in as I serve. I also shred cheese for omelettes but again I add it last after the food is off the heat. So I guess I am 'passive' heating!
post #173 of 422
I have nuts in my dehydrator that aren't getting crispy. They've been in there almost 24 hours. They were on 105 deg. because that's what my dehydrator recommended. I figured lower temp would preserve more enzymes etc. My walnuts and pepitas 2 days ago worked fine, these are cashews and almonds which I soaked overnight, the others only soaked for 7 hours. What temp do you experts use?
post #174 of 422
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Originally Posted by Yooper
Thanks for the help!

What about melting raw cheese? Like cheese sandwiches or in quiche? Does that undo the good of raw?
It will kill bacteria. In my WAPF chapter and buying co-op we asked our source (one of the WAP shopping guide suggestions) about this and that is what they said. I forget what the temp is. Still, with our co-op it's the same price as organic cheese. But I do save it for times it won't be heated too high.
post #175 of 422
JaneS, anyone else using JustDairy--did you see all the stuff they are now offering? have they always had that much stuff? i am so excited. is the beef pasture fed--i can't tell. i don't even know what to order. do i need colostrum? i bet it's pretty expensive. i'd still rather make my own stock and fermented products, but i wounder if it will be cheaper to use their stock. do you have any inside info?

Here's what they'll have:

Fiddler's Bread (Flax n' Pumpkin seed and Cinnimon Raisin)
Martin Organics Products
Milk (gallon) your choice of Just Dairy dairies
Milk (1/2 gallon) from Rocky Acres
Skim Milk from Ardent Arts
Cream (pint)
Cream (quart)
Cream (Gallon)
Sour Cream
Butter (lb.)
Butter (wrapped, lb)
Ice Cream (2qt)
Cheese (1 lb.)
Cheese (5 lb.)
Cottage Cheese (pint)
Whey (pint)
Whey (quart)
Buttermilk (pint)
Buttermilk (1/2 Gallon)
Buttermilk (Gallon)
Cultured Buttermilk (Gallon)
Kefir (pint)
Kefir (quart)
Kvass (2-liter)
Colostrum (1st milk. qt)
Colostrum (> 1st milk, qt)
Eggs (dozen)
Yogurt (quart)
Cream Yogurt (quart)
Lard
Ground beef
Milk fed Pork (ground)
Bacon
Pork sausage
Beef and Pork Franks
Sliced Ham
Beef Stock (quart)
Chicken Stock (quart)
Beef Steaks (lb.) any
Dressed Turkeys half or whole (lb.)
Beef Sticks/Jerky
Dressed Broiler Chickens preordered (soy feed)
Beef or Pork halves or quarters
Pepperjack Cheese
Baby Swiss
Cheddar
FRESH, Never frozen beef, pork, poultry (not always available)
post #176 of 422
Wow, nicolena, that's quite a list! I'm jealous that you have all of that available to you in one place.
post #177 of 422
I am SOOOO jealous! It seems like to find every little thing I have to spend hours hunting down a source.....
post #178 of 422
bumping....

also, does anyone have a question that didn't get answered already? Seems like this thread moves so quickly that it's easy to lose track.

Welcome to all the newbies!
post #179 of 422
I have a (new) question, actually. Can I mix soup bones to make stock? I ask because I have a few beef bones left from my last co-op shipment, but not enough to make stock. I do, however, have quite a few buffalo bones, including some meat-on shank and a foot. So do you think it would taste really funky if I mix the beef and buffalo bones to make stock? I am tempted to try it, just to see. Buffalo does taste different than beef, but not A LOT different, so I think it will be okay.

Also, do you thaw your bones/meat before making stock? Is there a reason you couldn't just throw 'em in frozen? I buy all of my meat frozen, but I've been thawing the bones to make stock ... then I started wondering why I bother.

On a related note, my buffalo supplier (sounds kinky, huh?!? ) just informed me that they've been venturing into beef, too. So in the near future I'll have a source for grassfed, naturally raised (no hormones, antibiotics, pesticides, etc.) buffalo, beef and wild elk and moose.
post #180 of 422
I do have a question. What about baking & NT ? I've tried two of the cake recipes in there - the banana & the orange & they have not been very nice. Anyone worked out a way of doing NT baking without them being all soggy & doughy ? dh does like his munchies so this makes it very difficult to avoid him having junk food in the house.
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