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post #21 of 571
Jane, Just wanted to send you a too. You're always the one here lifting the rest of our spirits. Hope I could lift yours for a change!
post #22 of 571
Hi everyone. Just wanted to introduce myself. I know firefaery and JaneS from the nourishing traditions threads and thought I might come on over to see where exactly I need to get started. All three of my kids (6, 2.5 and 4 months) have asthma and eczema. my 2 dds and I have terrible yeast problems right now, that I have gone on the makers diet to try and improve. My 2 dds are also terribly gassy, to the point that they wake up at night and cry or complain about throughout the day. DD1 is almost 3 and has really just started eating grains, but she really doesnt eat that much (maybe 2-3 servings daily). She is still bfing and has peanut and dairy allergies. My ds eats a lot of grains each day (some days he wont eat anything but grains) and tends to have impulse control problems (dont know if its diet related or not)

Anyway, where would be the best place for me to start? (very new to this, so I really need someone to hold my hand) Its hard after society pushing how healthy grains are to suddenly stop thinking that way. How long after changing our diets will I be able to see if things are changing for the better?

thanks for any help that you can give me.
post #23 of 571
Hey Jane, just a word of thanks again for your wisdom and links last month.

I have a question-are some of you combining NT and SCD? If so, how? I have both books, I am just so confused!!!

Thanks again,
post #24 of 571
Sorry-I thought of another couple of questions-

Source for almonds-what type-raw/salted, etc.?
Source for DCCC?

Thanks!
post #25 of 571
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibou
JaneS, what's the title of the book? I'm looking for good homeopathy books right now. tia.
I just finished this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/078...lance&n=283155

And I liked it quite a bit.


Firefaery, I belive my constitutional is Nat Mur
post #26 of 571
Mom2zsel: for me it means that all meats, eggs and dairy (though we don't do dairy) is from pastured organic animals. Dairy would be raw (raw cheese, raw yogurt) Nuts and beans are soaked and sprouted. Fish is wild caught-never farmed. Clearly there arent any grains allowed. That's pretty much it for us. Doesn't really require any extra effort and the pay off is worth it. Just makes food cleaner and easier to digest.
post #27 of 571
Memory maker-welcome. I think you'll find some good answers here. You could start by getting the book from the library, they generally have it. It's called, "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" by Elaine Gottschall. It's a very easy read. I also love "Enzymes for Autism and Other Neurological Conditions" by Karen DeFelice. She gives the best descriptions for what is happening in a damaged gut. There are websites for both... www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com and www.enzymestuff.com They would be a good place to get an overview of what it is that you are trying to accomplish. The impulse control is very possible a symptom-not necessarily of diet, but of damage. And FYI-kids generally do crave things (as do adults) that they are allergic to. It actually gives them a high. It creates a histamine response the same as drugs do. There will be withdrawal, but it's necessary for healing. We've all been there.
Jane is famous round these parts for healing eczema, and I can absolutely say that we have cleared up skin problems, gassiness/pain/crankiness (oh, the crankiness!) and behavioral issues. Both my kids were on the autism spectrum and aren't any longer-dd officially and ds unofficially.
Jordan Rubin talks about this program. He didn't have success, but I don't know if that was because he didn't stick to stage 1 long enough, or if combining NT and SCD would have made the difference for a gut as damaged as his.
Anyway, feel free to ask questions!
post #28 of 571
Great! they had both books at the library. I will make sure and pick them up tomorrow. Im glad I know where to start now. thanks!
post #29 of 571
I'm x-posting this in the dentistry area too..

I have some major dental problems going on. I'm going to have to have some serious work done(removal of 1 and probably more amalgam fillings/caps-possibly even removal of teeth). I'm also breastfeeding my dd who's 1 year, and needs some serious gut healing. I checked with the mercury-free dentist that I'm going to use, and he won't work on me while I'm breastfeeding, which is understandable. But...if I wean my dd, I'm afraid we're going to get some worse problems with her gut and body. (When I feed her most anything...we find it in her diaper virtually unchanged. Seriously.) I'm at a loss.
It's kinda a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. I don't want her to get any mercury through me, but if I don't bf her, I'm afraid she'll get no nutrition at all...
Is there anything I can take while having the work done to help bind to the mercury and flush it out? Or maybe just not bf for a small time period, and pump and dump for a bit?
Can anyone suggest anything?
HELP!
post #30 of 571
Quote:
mom2zsel-
Source for almonds-what type-raw/salted, etc.?
Source for DCCC?
I get both of those from a coop-Ozark Mountain? I'm not home right now, but when I get there, I'll post the name for sure. It's a natural coop. Wonderful! The almonds need to be blanched, if I remember correctly. I get the meal already ground and have been having good luck with it.
post #31 of 571
Thanks firefaery-that just totally simplifies it! That is not too far from where I am-just need to help my kiddos transition from lots of baked goods-all homemade, all organic, but alas, wheat

Cool zanelee-I'll look that up as well!

Off to shop!
post #32 of 571
mom2zsel-
It's the Ozark Cooperative Warehouse. Their website is:http://www.ozarkcoop.com


They are all over the US, so hopefully you can find them.
post #33 of 571
What am I looking for before we can start some raw fruit/veggies??? I'm confused on this point and not wanting to rush ahead but I'm also dying for something crunchy!!! DD and I still have a yeast rash but it is slowly getting better (although today I saw those curds on her vulva that tell me there is internal yeast too for her). I'm still having some constipation but not as bad. DH is now having constipation. He was really tired but now that is better.

I'm just confused and unsure how to figure this one out.
post #34 of 571
Am I crazy to want the whole family on SCD?
My DP thinks I'm a nutter for "buying" in to SCD it for myself and Galen. One of these days I'm going to get (read 'force') him to read the book. I've been gradually getting us all used to this new way of eating, rather than the immediate change that is recommended. I'm hesitant if this is a good approach as far as determining changes in symptoms, but this seems easiest for us. Any thoughts?

Anyway, I want my DS and DD on the diet since I feel both would benefit from it. It would kill my DD if Daddy ate something different for the meals when he's here. Perhaps my DP can have non-SCD meals at work which will probably be the best compromise.

As for symptoms, I've had diarrhea for a good month now (except today) along with bloating and often excessive flatulence. The kids both have rather hard stools (except when we had the stomach flu last weekend). My LO -- who is still mostly breastfed -- can go up to 4 days without a BM. The last couple of days, he's popped once a day, and both times were hard and difficult for him to pass. My DD on the other hand has had compacted poop every day (up to twice a day) for a month or more now.

Both kids have developed eczema in the last 2 months My DD's is rather like dry skin, not really obvious at all until you feel her legs. My DS however has deveoped two eczema sites on both legs, in exactly the same positions where he had them when he was an infant. I had been talking about my gut feeling that something was still not quite right with Galen, and now we have the proof ):
post #35 of 571
Hello, I'm new to this area but have been doing quite a bit of research on healing the gut. DD had VERY severe eczema that cleared after we eliminated soy..she is also reactive to a few other things. The concept that I could have a leaky gut that contributed to this is interesting. She was ex. BF until about 10 months and still nurses about once a day at 3.
My question is this: What probiotic do you recommend for me? DD takes Baby Jarrow. Also, what enzymes for both of us? I am sorry if these are simplistic questions.....the research is a little overwhelming.
Also, how can we tell...here at home....if it's a yeast problem or bacteria problem? Different sites have little "quizes" that have me thinking it's both. Could it be both or one in me and a differnt in DD?
Thanks!
post #36 of 571
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibou
JaneS, what's the title of the book? I'm looking for good homeopathy books right now. tia.
"The Impossible Cure" about curing her son of autism, but also goes into detail about history of homeopathy and other personal stories are included too.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...230261-8891810

I liked it b/c it was a quick easy read. And gave me a clear view of the kind of information I should write down re: DS's traits that may really help to pinpoint a remedy for him more easily. And was very uplifting, just what I needed.
post #37 of 571
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by firefaery
Jane, let me know how your appointment goes. I don't think she'll be thrown off at all. My DhT sends a packet out that is 14 pages long, tiny print, both sides. If that wasn't enough you also have to write an essay. I'm sure she'll be thrilled to have someone as observant as you are. You'll have to let me know what his constitutional is as well. It's really an addiction with me! Glad you liked the book. Homeopathy really is wonderful. We have had such good experiences and Selkie's new remedy has completely shifted her. I started a new one today and my fingers are crossed. I'm hoping I don't prove it, because that would about destroy me right now. Selkie proved her first one, so I think the odds are on my side It's pretty rare.
Of course I will report back, don't I always

Crossing my fingers and toes for you
post #38 of 571
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annikate
Jane, Just wanted to send you a too. You're always the one here lifting the rest of our spirits. Hope I could lift yours for a change!
How sweet... thank you so much!

I owe MDC a huge debt. If it were not for what I've learned here, our lives would have been very different (in a very scary way.) I really am very grateful. And all of you help me too, by keeping me honest in my commitments and by giving me the determination to continue learning.

I feel so good right now.

Several things have just neatly come into place this week I just can't believe it! I hope all the blood, sweat and tears will now pay off b/c there's been too much of that.
post #39 of 571
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by memory maker
Hi everyone. Just wanted to introduce myself. I know firefaery and JaneS from the nourishing traditions threads and thought I might come on over to see where exactly I need to get started. All three of my kids (6, 2.5 and 4 months) have asthma and eczema. my 2 dds and I have terrible yeast problems right now, that I have gone on the makers diet to try and improve. My 2 dds are also terribly gassy, to the point that they wake up at night and cry or complain about throughout the day. DD1 is almost 3 and has really just started eating grains, but she really doesnt eat that much (maybe 2-3 servings daily). She is still bfing and has peanut and dairy allergies. My ds eats a lot of grains each day (some days he wont eat anything but grains) and tends to have impulse control problems (dont know if its diet related or not)

Anyway, where would be the best place for me to start? (very new to this, so I really need someone to hold my hand) Its hard after society pushing how healthy grains are to suddenly stop thinking that way. How long after changing our diets will I be able to see if things are changing for the better?

thanks for any help that you can give me.
Carey,

Yup, y'all need to be here for sure! Gas means you cannot fully digest your food and it's fermenting in the gut. And the not fully digested food is feeding yeast/bad bacteria. Which continues the damage.

The eczema/asthma issues are manifestations of an immune system that cannot handle the load. And the peanut/dairy allergies as well. There is a link above in my second post this month that speaks to allergies in a different way. The gut is damaged and that is why these symptoms are happening, not these particular foods or allergens are damaging the body.

Grains can be very healthy ... whole and soaked to remove phytates of course. but only if you can digest them. I cringe everytime I read how schools are adopting more whole grains etc. etc. because they are not prepared properly by soaking and I fear it will lead to even more cases of gut problems.

It's funny b/c the Maker's Diet in the beginning is very much like the SCD. But he does add enzymes, which I also think is important for serious cases of gut trouble. And HSO's, which I am very leery about b/c the knowledge of how they work and whether we should be eating them is just not convinced me. I'd rather stick with a food I know has been proven throughout history: yogurt.

I had a lot of gut problems, thrush while nursing, gas, and bloating and I noticed a HUGE difference the first week on SCD. It was like my stomach just deflated and I lost 5 llbs b/c it was no longer bloated.
post #40 of 571
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mom2zsel
Hey Jane, just a word of thanks again for your wisdom and links last month.

I have a question-are some of you combining NT and SCD? If so, how? I have both books, I am just so confused!!!

Thanks again,
You are most welcome

I try to soak all nuts and make my own flours and nut butter in food processor. DS gets exclusively soaked nuts, I cheat with purchased almond flour for myself sometimes (and make sure I take enzymes with it).

Other NT principles that fit very well into SCD:
  • Bone broths.
  • Cod Liver Oil.
  • Raw grass fed Milk/cheese/butter.
  • Pastured meats and eggs.
  • I'm supposed to be eating liver but stuck on that for now, working on it!
  • Fermented veggies like homemade pickles, salsa, roasted red peppers, ginger carrots, using all SCD ingredients (use whey from yogurt as starter).
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