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post #41 of 45
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Originally Posted by kaylee18
I don't think comments that promote homophobia should be encouraged or tolerated. There are many ways to defend one's genital integrity that do not invoke prejudicial sentiment.



Yeah that.


Just so you know, in a boys locker room, if someone is pointing at your penis and saying something derogitory 99.9% of the time they are telling their friends that you are a homo because you are different.

The best defense is to shift the blame, Yes it may not be the nicest but I fully believe that the boy being pointed at will not be left alone unless the person pointing begins to feel uncomfortable.

And you are not promoting homophobia. The other boy obviously has an interest in your sons genetalia. Your son is just letting the other boy know it's ok to look, but not touch.


Sorry, but that is my belief. I was in a locker room where one boy wouldnt stick up for himself and was repeatedly peed on by the jocks and made fun of for his genetalia, when in all actuallity, for being circumsized, there really was nothing wrong with him otherwise other than his social standing. But I would HATE to have to be that kids psychologist later in life.
post #42 of 45
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Originally Posted by Yoshua
Just so you know, in a boys locker room, if someone is pointing at your penis and saying something derogitory 99.9% of the time they are telling their friends that you are a homo because you are different.
Which means they are prejudiced as well as ignorant. Neither should be encouraged.

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The best defense is to shift the blame, Yes it may not be the nicest but I fully believe that the boy being pointed at will not be left alone unless the person pointing begins to feel uncomfortable.
There are many ways to make the attacker feel uncomfortable without implicitly agreeing with his prejudice. Attacked person could say, "Yeah, I've got more of my penis than you do of yours." He could say, "Don't you have something better to do than compare d!cks?" He could say, "Bigger, longer, and uncut." Or a million other things. Just the attitude that your appearance is a source of pride can circumvent most taunting.

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And you are not promoting homophobia. The other boy obviously has an interest in your sons genetalia (sic). Your son is just letting the other boy know it's ok to look, but not touch.
A disapproving "See something you want?" sounds to me like a blatantly homophobic statement, with no resemblance whatsoever to dignified or reasonable self-defense.

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Sorry, but that is my belief. I was in a locker room where one boy wouldnt stick up for himself and was repeatedly peed on by the jocks and made fun of for his genetalia, when in all actuallity, for being circumsized (sic), there really was nothing wrong with him otherwise other than his social standing. But I would HATE to have to be that kids psychologist later in life.
Response edited to reflect consideration of original poster's perception:

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I respectfully disagree that the response you advocate is a good one, regardless of the severity of the situation. I continue to view the statement (when voiced in a negative and defensive tone) as a prejudical one, and I believe there are effective ways to defend oneself that do not involve prejudicial sentiment. I agree that it is very unfortunate that in the above scenario, no one stood up for the victim.

I do hope you don't mean to imply that the abuse was the fault of the victim, because he did not stand up for himself. It seems we agree that the responsibility for abuse always lies with the abuser. I also hope that parents of children entering institutions that intend to force them to be naked in each others' presence will take steps to prevent their children from having to enter the situation to begin with.

It is abusive to force humans to be naked together. That is all.
post #43 of 45
Its not homophobic to ask someone if they see something they want anymore then it's fatphobic to ask a large person if they like candy.
post #44 of 45
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Originally Posted by kaylee18
So now you are implying that a shockingly abusive situation should be blamed on the victim. How very sad.

It is abusive to force humans to be naked together in any situation. And it is pathetic to insist that the only appropriate remedy for abuse is the promotion of prejudice.

Blamed on the victim? No. and i will thank you for never putting words into my mouth that are not there again.

No implications were made. But if the boy, someone in my class, had stuck up for himself I garuntee it would have stopped. How do I know? One of the 'jocks' in particular decided it was going to be my turn to be picked on. I started a fight with him, didn't win the fight, but he no longer picked on me because I stood up for myself.

In the real world there are bullies. If you choose to ignore this fact and a boy is being picked on. What would you do? report it to the principle?... Try being a young man in jr high before you start puttin words into my mouth. What I listed were possible solutions. Just because you want to get defensive about it doesnt mean that they don't work.

I will no longer respond to posts you make. I will thank you not to do so to mine. I find it insulting that you put words into my mouth.


You really shouldn't give advice about what goes on inside of a boys locker room unless you have experianced it. Because until you have been on the receiving end, you are unqualified to pass judgement on those who have.

took out the part about (sic) if what boingo says is true.
post #45 of 45
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Originally Posted by Yoshua
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PS: It is cute that you put (sic) after the word circumsicion, but we, me included, had no choice in being cut and telling me i am sick for being circumsized is highly offensive to me. thank you.
(sic) is used to indicate that a misspelling is quoted, and not made by the author currently writing.
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