I got the call today. He was born and it's over.

[Shaunam]

My nephew was born late last night, 4 weeks early. He's already been circ'ed. He was only 10 hours old when they did it. He nursed like a champ from birth and now they can't get him to wake up, which leads me to believe he did not get any pain relief.

I talked to my little sister and I broke down when she told me that. She tries to be understanding, but I know she just doesn't feel what I feel because she doesn't KNOW. That's ok. She's young and not ready for kids yet. And she listens to what I say. I don't think she would ever circ. But that doesn't help me feel better about what my poor nephew went through today.

I just want to crawl in a hole and never come out.

Today's my DH's birthday has to spend it listening to me blubber about how $hitty the world is, then go throw up and start the process over again.

How long does it take to get over this?

[minkajane]

FOUR weeks early and the docs actually CIRC'D him???? I thought they only did it when they were ready to be discharged from the hospital! That is so wrong! *hugs*

[trmpetplaya]

Originally Posted by minkajane

FOUR weeks early and the docs actually CIRC'D him???? I thought they only did it when they were ready to be discharged from the hospital! That is so wrong! *hugs*

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That's so terrible!!! 's to you...

love and peace.

[Eman'smom]

My nephew is 5 months old I still get sick to my stomach when I think about it.

Oh and I now have no relationship with my sister, anybody that could do that knowing the facts is too replusive to be around.

[InDaPhunk]

I'm sorry

[AntoninBeGonin]

[Shaunam]

Well, I've pretty much got myself together now. Which is good because DH went to work and I have to be sane to take care of DS.

G was born at 36 weeks, but I don't think they labeled him a preemie. He's 7 lbs 2 oz, breathing fine and (was) nursing fine. Hopefully when he wakes up he will still nurse ok. As far as I know, they are both going home tommorrow.

I know it's over, but I can't help feeling dread when I think about all the things that could still happen. What if the wound gets infected? What if starts bleeding in the middle of the night and no one notices? What if he has and undetected heart condition and his body didn't respond well to the trauma and he just shuts down? My sister's first DD died from a heart condition @ 7 weeks old, so I'm particularly paranoid about that one.

And then the stuff that could happen later. What if the doctor did a loose circ and my sister thinks it's not good enough and has it done again? What if he gets adhesions and they want to re-circ at a later age? What if something terrible happens if they decide to do so?

They didn't listen to me in the first place. I have no reason to believe they will listen to me later.

All that keeps going through my head is, "How can someone knowingly put their newborn through a completely unnecessary PAINFUL surgery? Don't they LOVE him!?"

I will never, ever be able to wrap my mind around it. It's cruel. It's barbaric. It's so painfully OBVIOUS, too. But for some reason, so many people are brainwashed into thinking it's ok. Normative abuse, I think it's called.

I wish I could be happy for my sister, but I can't. I detest her right now.

[aisraeltax]

thats so sad. i hope he wakes up soon and starts to nurse again.
you did all you could do.

[Shaunam]

Double post

[Shaunam]

And I want to say that I'm so thankful this forum. It really helps to be able to express my true feelings without being called irrational or judgemental. It's my only true safe place. I don't know what I would do without mdc.

[DreamsInDigital]

That is so heartbreaking. That poor baby boy. to you.

[Quirky]

I'm so sorry. My SIL and BIL had their 35-week 5-pound preemie circed 4 days after he was born. That was over a year ago and quite frankly I have never really gotten over it. I have lost all respect for them for that and many other decisions they've made. BF didn't work out - big shock there.

It just sucks. That's all there is to it.

[calngavinsmom]

s ....so sorry

Tara

[Leiahs]

I will never, ever be able to wrap my mind around it. It's cruel. It's barbaric. It's so painfully OBVIOUS, too. But for some reason, so many people are brainwashed into thinking it's ok. Normative abuse, I think it's called.

I wish I could be happy for my sister, but I can't. I detest her right now.

I know *exactly* how you feel, and I totally agree. I wish I could offer words of advice, but 4 months after my circ'd nephews birth, his circ is still the first thing I think of any time I talk to my sister

[DocsNemesis]

Aww, I'm so sorry!! I hate people like this too! I lost all respect for my brother because of this. His first son was circumcised and it got infected and healed wrong and had to be done again at 8 months. There is hardly anything left and they dont know if he can even have an erection (he is almost 6 and has never had one yet, which anyone with a little boy can tell you is very abnormal). Despite this, he still circ'd his next two sons. What an idiot! I havent seen him or spoken to him since I found out he cut his 2nd....it makes me sick!

[Shaunam]

A little bit OT-

I had a long-distance relative ask me to update Adrian's webpage today. The last time I updated it was in november, so it really needed to be anyays. Unfortunately, I have lots of crazy things going through my head right now and instead of focusing the update on Adrian, I practically wrote a book about circ at the bottom.

Can you all read it and tell me if it's just the ramblings of a crazy person or if it actually makes sense?

http://www.geocities.com/tim_shauna/AdrianScott.html

I only want to leave it up if it sounds somewhat intelligent.

[paminmi]

Love it Shauna~Short and to the point. The only thing I would suggest doing would be to add a link to NOCIRC or Mothers against circumcision so someone can actually validate what you are saying. Your son btw is a cutie--but then you already know that!

Regarding your nephew, I'm so sorry. As I have said before, sometimes I am so ashamed of my profession. If we as nurses would open our eyes and hearts and see and admit what circumcision is, we could do so much to stop it from happening. If only...

Social conditioning is a such a difficult thing to overcome...



Hugs to you momma

[hummingbear]

So sorry Shauna

Has he woken up? That triggered me when you wrote it. I hope it is because he is healing that he is sleeping so deeply.

[Shaunam]

Originally Posted by hummingbear

So sorry Shauna

Has he woken up? That triggered me when you wrote it. I hope it is because he is healing that he is sleeping so deeply.

I don't know. I've had the internet connected all day. It may be selfish, but I don't want to talk to anyone. If she has trouble getting him to nurse, she can call an LC. I don't want to hear about it.

[hummingbear]

Originally Posted by Shaunam

Can you all read it and tell me if it's just the ramblings of a crazy person or if it actually makes sense?

http://www.geocities.com/tim_shauna/AdrianScott.html

It certainly has your voice of passion in it.

I think the first paragraph is a little diluted and would read stronger if you rearranged it a little. My quick think suggestion is as follows:

"When word got out that we did not plan on having Adrian circumcised, many people felt it was their place to tell us we were doing our son a disservice, we were going to set him up for teasing and ridicule, we were risking his health and that were were "sick".
Circumcision, for over a hundred years, has been falsely believed to cure and prevent many diseases (blindness, infections, STDs, cancer, AIDS, (insert any other disease here)",."

May your passion be another's saving grace.