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post #61 of 146
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Originally Posted by SunRayeMomi
You know, I feel the same way sometimes, and that's why I haven't been posting as much as I did the first time this thread was posted. But I really don't believe we are alone. When it comes to preschoolers, it seems that pretty much anything goes. It's not the fact that our children are learning that we find in common, because that's going to be true for any family. It's the fact that we consider our homes to be schools and we have all decided not to send our children elsewhere to learn, be it now or as they age. How we homeschool is not the important common factor between us all, I don't think. It's nice to have a place to come to for ideas and thoughts, whether we unschool, WTM, classical, whatever.
I really like how you said this, Sara! Thank you! And thanks to all of you!
post #62 of 146
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Originally Posted by LeftField
I really like how you said this, Sara! Thank you! And thanks to all of you!
post #63 of 146
Hello! I'm pretty new to this part of MDC so I hope its okay I jump right in over here My name is Kara and my dh and I plan to hs our kids. We have a dd who turned 4 in November and are expecting a baby boy this June (I see a June mama or two over here )

I guess since we're just starting out on our hs journey (well, okay pre-starting out LOL) I still consider us pretty eclectic - just sampling what works out best for us. I'm finding that *I* need at least a little structure and planning ... so usually on Sunday's I'll make a list of crafts/activities/games we can do doing the week and prepare the materials for them (gather up art supplies, print instructions, etc.)

Right now we're really enjoying the litle mini-units from Waldorf Curriculum. We're doing the "Color" one right now. We've been painting, blending colors, doing experiements with ice cubes that we made with drops of food coloring in them and seeing how the colors blend. This week we're going to make soap paint and paint the glass on our back door - hey, if we don't have spring flowers yet I'm going to find a way to get some color I really like that the units are 6 weeks long, she provides a book list (most of which I have had no trouble finding at our library) and you can kind of pick and choose the activities and schedule that works the best for you. It's nice for when I can't think of ideas, you know?

ABC's - starfall Boo likes to play with the games on this site and she's been doing a lot of invented writing lately

We have a Nature Corner in our house and add bits and pieces ... take lots of walks now that the weather is getting a bit warmer (okay, not on the rainy days) and our treasures that we find on those walks usually end up in our Nature Corner, too.

I found a package of pink dye in my craft box, so I think we're going to tye dye some white socks and t-shirts this week, too ;-)

We're going to be starting some seeds for the garden this week and I hope to get to the library on Tuesday or Wednesday.

We'll probably do lots of GREEN things on Friday for St. Patrick's day, but I haven't gotten that far in my planning yet

I'm currently going through this "nesting" phase of my pregnancy where I'm getting rid of the plastic/needs batteries/or just plain junky toys around here and replacing them with wooden or more natural choices (and less noisy!) We just have so much plastic and now that I'm a little more educated about gassing off and things like that than I was before I'm eager to get rid of these things, you know?

I recently got a copy of Home Learning Year by Year by Rebecca Rupp after some other HS'ing mamas I know recommended it. Lots to take in ...

LOVE being able to exchange ideas with everyone! Thanks for welcoming a newbie to these parts
post #64 of 146
WOW Kara you are SO organized!!!! And I LOVE that site. It has lots of really great ideas. How do you make soap paint? That sound so fun!!! I really need to get more artsy and crafty things going for DS, I'm really bad at just thinking of that stuff. I'm not completely a waldorf gal, but I LOVE all the creativity involved and I think DS needs more of that. I'd love to incorporate it into the other stuff I'd like to do. DS is one that needs to be busy busy busy all the time so more art projects would probably fit that billet til it warms up! (as a native Floridian I don't consider it "warm" here in NY yet LOL!)
post #65 of 146
I feel like I might be a little out of place here, but I'd like to join you all anyway, as I've been reading this forum for a while now and enjoying the ideas here.

I have a ds who is nearly 4, and another ds, a baby. I feel like ds is bright and right on track for most things, and probably even "ahead" of average in his language skills. We read all of the time; he memorizes books and "reads" them himself. We do all kinds of things together--cook, garden, games, art and craft stuff; his dad does a lot of carpentry/mechanical kinds of things with him.

But, he knows just a few letters, has no real interest in learning all of the letters and sounds, no real interest in writing his letters (he does lots of scibbling and "writes" notes, list, and had a "journal" for a while). I am not worried about any of this, but then I read these threads and I wonder if I should be encouraging this stuff more. I have not pushed at all...every now and then I offer to show him how to write his name, or we will get out the square magnetic letter tiles and play with them...interestingly, he likes to line the tiles up, and puts almost every one the "right" direction, so he does recognize what they should look like.

Anyway, I've pretty much decided not to send him to pre-K in the fall, and maybe not K either, and since almost everyone in my area starts school by age 4, I feel like we are "homeschooling", even though he is not officially school age. I am starting to wonder what is "normal" for development for this age, when I read threads like this. The pre-K's I have seen run the gamut from no reading/writing being taught at all (in the NAEYC acc. schools which are supposedly developmentally appropriate) to the ones which do daily phonics and handwriting instruction. One of the reasons I don't want to send him to school is because he is very sensitive and backs off from doing anything unless it was his idea in the first place--and will withdraw if he feels rushed or pushed in any way (he is sooo much like me, lol!).

Anyway, I am still investigating homeschooling approaches, and right now lean towards the Charlotte Mason type of approach...but am just about to start reading Well Trained Mind. My main concern with long-term homeschooling, is my ability to provide the kids with adequate social opportunities.

Anyway, glad to join you!
post #66 of 146
Hi, Slighty Crunchy! (love your name),

I think your son sounds very bright. And I think what you're doing with him is fine. From what I've read, not writing or knowing letter sounds at 3/4 is normal. This thread has a self-selected group (i.e not the norm), because it mostly attracts people who do formal stuff in the preschool years by virtue of its title. I, personally, don't think you should change what feels comfortable for you. I think it has been shown that, of kids of the same ability, they even out down the road, so you're not at a disadvantage for not doing formal stuff. I think you should just follow his cues. When he's receptive to learning it, he'll easily pick it up. My BIL swears that the reason he hates reading so much is because reading instruction was pushed on him in kindy before he was interested in doing it.

My nephew went to kindergarten at almost 6. He could only write his name, didn't write all the letters yet and didn't know most letter sounds. I'm not sure he could count very high. No one had worked with him on academic skills. By the first grade, he had completely caught up with most of the other kids in reading and he was advanced in math. He simply was ready and once he was ready, he took off.

I loved the book, "Einstein Didn't Use Flashcards". It referenced a lot of studies and was very reassuring. A lot of people in this forum recommend that book; it's great! Like did you know that the Mozart Effect simply showed that college students performed better on a very specific sub-test after hearing 15 minutes of Mozart? Yet, it's marketed like classical music will make a *kid* "smarter". The actual study showed very specific and limited results on young adults. We listen to classical music, because we love it. We only do things we love. I can't speak highly enough of that book.

Speaking of which, there's another great book about the love of reading called, "The Read Aloud Handbook". It's by Jim Trelease. He convincingly makes the argument that reading aloud to share the pleasure of reading is significantly more important than teaching the mechanics of reading, if the goal is to make a life-long lover of books. It was also reassuring. I have a child who can sound out small words, but doesn't read. We've been at this plateau for a long time and this book reassured me that it was Ok. It's more important to read to them like you do and to make reading a pleasurable activity, because that creates motivation to do it at a point of readiness.

In terms of reading pleasure: We're not reading great literary works.
My son loves the Magic Tree House books and even though I've received advice to read higher quality stuff to him, this is what he LOVES. It's better to keep reading as a pleasurable activity. I could try reading stuff that's written better, but if it doesn't excite him like the Treehouse books, then I can't see the point. I want him to love reading so we read stuff to him that he loves. Even my very well-read husband went through a very long period of reading nothing but comic books, my MIL said. She never bothered him, because he was enjoying reading rather than being turned off. It was better to read frequently for pleasure rather than drudgingly reading better stuff out of obligation. Now, he's a voracious reader.

I love that your son memorizes the books that he loves. This is very smart. Sometimes kids figure stuff out that way. My sister taught herself to read without any instruction, not even alphabet sounds. My mother just read to us every day and pointed to the words sometimes and my sister was able to figure out the code. On unschooling lists/threads, there's mention of lots of kids learning to read this way. The fact that your son loves being read to is THE most important factor in reading success, or so says Jim Trelease. Again, memorizing favorite books shows that he's very bright and that he loves reading; you're setting up a very strong foundation for him.

I've probably rambled on too much here. But I wanted to comment on what you said and say that I think you're doing a great job. Honestly, my kids (oldest one is almost 5) just play all day long. I basically stay out of their way most of the time, because they're busy playing. When they play, they really stretch their brains to make them powerful machines for future academics. Play is kids' work. We read, we do some art, my oldest does some wood-working with dh (I noticed your dh does this). We just play. It's really important to me that they have an unhurried childhood. It will all come in time. If they learn it at 8, as opposed to 3, they probably learn it so much faster most of the time. I would just follow his cues and do what feels good. HTH!
post #67 of 146
Oh, Amy, I'm not really that organized - that's just pregnancy nesting

I think I, too am more draw to some Waldolf ideas because of the art and creative play involved. We're still really pre-hs'ers so I'm just reading a lot and picking and choosing from different schools of thought and theories ... I guess that makes me an eclectic homeschooler with Waldorf tendencies?

The recipe that I have to make the soap paints is from the Waldorf Curriculum site (www.waldorfcurriculum.com) and, keeping in mind we haven't done it yet this week, it sounds pretty easy. You grate up a bar of mild white soap (we're using Ivory) and mix that and a cup of warm water with your handmixer on med for 3 to 5 minutes - you whip it up until it looks like beaten, frothy egg whites and then divide this up into bowls to add your food coloring into (the recipe says one bar makes 8 cups of paint). Then you use fingers or sponges to make designs on mirrors or windows. To remove it you first scrape off the dried soap and then just use window cleaner (we use vinegar, so I hope that will remove it) to remove the rest. This reminds me of soaping windows ... not that *I* ever did any thing like that as a youth

slightlycrunchy - I think that it sounds like you are doing exactly what you need to be doing. I agree with the poster who said play is the most important things for kids at this age. Better to pick up certain things at an older age and have them really "click" and make sense than to have them feel burned out by learning young ... and I think that happens more than some would like to admit, you know?

I hope I didn't give the impression that Boo was actually reading and writing at 4 When I say "invented spelling" I mean that she "writes" us letters or stories like "akljinsdh sdifhi slihige akkdihg jdki" and then tells us "that says Mama I love you" or "my shopping list is for bananas, apples, and carrots"

Mainly, our days our spent painting, crafting, making messes ... I just like to throw in a little abc or 123 time as it comes up in every day life, you know? And, really, it comes up more often then you'd think. Your son sounds like he's following what he loves and what interests him. I think that is perfect!
post #68 of 146
I am way behind this month.... We did a mini trip to Seattle last week that DD loved, she loves travelling. As soon as we got back I got sick, so we haven't been doing much "learning" except learning that mama gets grouchy when she is sick . Thankfully the weekend was sunny and warm and DD played outside both afternoons.

We have been doing a letter a week and trying to do activities around that letter, some weeks we get a lot done, other weeks DD can't be bothered and that is alright too

tara
post #69 of 146
Wow! I just got my HWOT stuff, and I have to write a review! I was worried it would be too "schooley" for my not quite 3 year old, but she LOVES IT! We ordered the wooden letter set from the ebay seller? Bill is his firstname? I can go look if you need a link. My DD immediately opened it and made the letters A and O without any instruction. I got the CD and we listened to it. She enjoyed the first few songs, but was then interested in the book "Get Set for School" I only got this to complete the set, I was planning to put it away, but honestly, it's JUST RIGHT for right now! I am currently copying the pages, so I can use them several times. We did the first letter "L" page. She is way too young to have the ability to form her letters, but she made lots of Ls with the pieces. Her name is Lacy, and sis is Laina, so we have lots of Ls At lunch, when daddy was home, she made him a letter T (which I did not show her at all! She did it totally on her own, just playing with the letter pieces). So far she has figured out A, O, Q, T and L! All just from playing. Infact, the girls are both playing with the peices right now! Just had to review for all of you! I really do think this is a fun curr. It's the first one I've ever bought,a nd I just love it! Also, in the book, I like the clear illustrations. For example, the page shows how to make the capital letter, and then only has a simple picture (L had a lizzard). They have a place to make the letter if you want, but the page is also fine for just coloring! The pictures are very clear, not as detailed, and the outer lines are slightly bigger than alot of coloring books. There is also stuff in it for prewriting, making lines, counting, colors, and shapes.

So, that's my review! I will try to give another update after we have been using it for about 3-4 months
post #70 of 146
*subscribing*

Was all for hs five years ago, when I was going to be mom of one : Now I'm just not sure. I'm leaning towards pre-K but I still have four months before enrollment...and I will probably feel guilty whatever I do.
post #71 of 146
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I loved the book, "Einstein Didn't Use Flashcards". It referenced a lot of studies and was very reassuring.
Me too!! I just finished it, and I reference it a lot in my homeschooling blog!! It seems that everything I've always known to be true about the way children learned was emphasized in that book
post #72 of 146
OOhhh! You guys! I am totally unschooling ds(4.75) at this point. He knows his colors. He knows how to speak/spell his name, but is clueless as to numbers and letters.

As his 5yo BD is coming this summer, I feel more and more inclined to do something!! But he is *SOOOOO* not ready! For example: with our cuisinaire rods, rather than do anything mathematically with them, he uses them as part of his ongoing "construction site". He has legos(not the little ones), and is just starting to use them now and then. Right now he uses tens and hundreds rods and flats, as part of his construction site also!

He is *profoundly* gifted when it comes to ball sports.(He can play and do well on a nine-hole golf course!) But, I don't want an illiterate jock-yk???

He plays sports at a second-third grade level. The "Y" made an "allowance" once I convinced them that he would do well with HS gym class. And he has!

He loves to read,can cut with scissors,paste,and trace.

It is ssssoo hard to keep me from shoving schoolish stuff on him!

I need to keep coming here and getting unschoolers experiences.

PLease help *ME* to slow down! PLease tell me it's okay that he can't count to 20!!!

mp

post #73 of 146
Leftfield,
we're relative "unschoolers" for now as well.
the only "homeshcool" activity we do is once a week art co-op.
no ciriculum. No goals for his learning. no structure. we just do life- lots of zoos, parks, stores, etc, but not intentionally for our "homeshcooling"

so, when we talk to other homeshcool preschoolers, we're wierd because we don't have a "letter of the week" or whatever. But oh well! welcome
post #74 of 146
It's funny, we're not quite unschool but certainly not traditional...our friends across the street are Classic and so much more structured and vigorous. Granted, her DS is in kindy but her DD is the same age as my DS. I more follow his interests at this point. Even though I want a math curriculum, I don't intend to push it, kwim? That said, my DS is closer to reading than her DD but she colors neater than he does LOL...so I don't think it matters a WHOLE lot at this point. And Mamapoppins, if you think about it, if your DS was in Waldorf school they would not have begun reading or math at this point anyway. My DS knows what he knows bc he had always been curious about it.
post #75 of 146
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Originally Posted by mamapoppins

It is ssssoo hard to keep me from shoving schoolish stuff on him!

I need to keep coming here and getting unschoolers experiences.

Yeah, that! I've been a longtime lurker on this thread, and I'm loving all this unschooling discussion. I'm planning to do a very loose FIAR and CM approach this fall for K, but mostly just for *me*, so I feel like I'm doing something, since I don't have to report in NY until 1st grade. Right now we just do library a couple times a week, a neat little nature class every other week, lots of pretend play and tons of reading. Oh, and I just got this game, called Blokus, that Lydia LOOOOVES. I thought it would be above her head, but it isn't, and I like it because it's fairly quick to play, and is great for spatial awareness.
post #76 of 146
Those of you who use computer games- this link was posted in the free homeschooling links this week and I just love it and wanted to share- http://www.educational-freeware.com/ We haven't had time to try all of them, but I've found dd really likes the kindergarten level of a couple of the games. I love using computer games as part of our education- as I feel like it teaches all kinds of great stuff I wouldn't think to do with her.

I also wanted to say, for all of you worried you aren't doing "math"- learning shapes is math, learning to recognize a patter with blocks or beads is math, being able to identify which is bigger, smaller, taller, shorter, heavier, and ligher are all math concepts. Not all math skills are numbers oriented. Reading skills are the same way- being able to tell a story, listen to a story, identify what a picture means like : or or are all prereading skills.
I think too often now people tend to jump into those other skills that involve the numbers and letters and forget that there are a lot of important skills that shouldn't be forgotten- because they are more basic.

Peace,
Laura
post #77 of 146

Can we join you?

I am just starting to think about home schooling my DD, Ella. She will be 3 in september and seems very eager to learn new things. She is always asking me what words say, doing 'writing' and counting.

DH was keen for her to go to preschool but I wasnt. Unfortunately(lol!) its full for september so I got my way!

I have been reading this thread with interest. Lots of great ideas!
post #78 of 146
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Originally Posted by mamapoppins
It is ssssoo hard to keep me from shoving schoolish stuff on him!
Why ? Is he going to be more intellectually capable when he's, say...16 if he started to learn the 3Rs at 4 instead of 6 or 7 even later? Couldn't he learn it all a lot faster and easier - and more meaningfully - at an older age when there are more meaningful things to apply it to? [hint: yes!]

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PLease help *ME* to slow down! PLease tell me it's okay that he can't count to 20!!!
Okay - - slow down! There - how's that?
- Lillian
post #79 of 146
Our fun "math" stuff is the Toy Counter from story teller felts! I got this set last fall, just to see what it was like, and we LOVE it! you can tell stories with it, or count the trains, or you DC can line the toys up on the shelves., or sort the different kinds of toys. When they get older, there is $$ that comes with it, so they can "buy" the toys. It also has shapes, bigger, smaller, fractions ect. There are some very loose lesson plans that come with it, that give suggestions. We don't really do "lessons" with it yet, it's more for play, but we do count out things if we want to. Right now I only have 5 of each toy out, and the number blocks 0-5, so there are not as many pieces. I'd say it will be played with alot until maybe 1st or 2nd grade-ish. Also, you can do math with simple books you probably already read like Goldilocks and the Three Bears. We do most of our "math" in the kitchen, though. DD is not quite three, but she can count out measurments, and count how many plates, forks, ect. to put on the table. My DH and I run a business from our home, so we are constantly talking about numbers, prices, money, ect. and do so in front of DD, so that she sees how we use numbers in our life. I think that's what is most important right now, not how far she can count, but rather what we can *do* with numbers, and why they are important. I also think your kids should see you reading often, so they can see why it's important to learn to read.
post #80 of 146
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Originally Posted by mamapoppins
As his 5yo BD is coming this summer, I feel more and more inclined to do something!! But he is *SOOOOO* not ready! For example: with our cuisinaire rods, rather than do anything mathematically with them, he uses them as part of his ongoing "construction site". He has legos(not the little ones), and is just starting to use them now and then. Right now he uses tens and hundreds rods and flats, as part of his construction site also!


He loves to read,can cut with scissors,paste,and trace.



That block building stuff sure sounds like math to me, I bet that he totally "gets" most of the math concepts that he would be expected to know in a PS classroom. It sounds like he just isn't interested in articulating the ideas just yet.
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