Please spam me with why I shouldn't vax data!

[Annikate]

I am new to this forum and have a bunch of questions. Sorry for seeming so : about all this.

I'm a bit embarrassed right now that I just went ahead and had my 2 dds vaxed without even thinking twice about it.

Please tell me all you know about why I shouldn't have dd's 1-yr. vaccinations. Is there really no mercury in vaxes anymore? ARe they really still harmful and why? I've heard the arguments and heard both sides. I am not going to have anymore done but need some hard data you have on why they're harmful.

FTR, dd is already high in many metals and now I'm trying to figure out what to do next.

TIA

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by Annikate

I am new to this forum and have a bunch of questions. Sorry for seeming so : about all this.

Welcome to the forum. We were all there once - confused and questioning both sides - so we understand perfectly.

I'm a bit embarrassed right now that I just went ahead and had my 2 dds vaxed without even thinking twice about it.

You have no reason to be embarrassed. Your doctor should be though because he never looked at what is actually in the needle and he is supposed to know. But if he looks he could not in good conscience inject anyone with that stuff.

Please tell me all you know about why I shouldn't have dd's 1-yr. vaccinations.

In short, because vaccines contain hazardous material, foreign DNA which can never really be tolerated by the human body, and because having the natural childhood diseases primes the immune system for a healthy life.

Is there really no mercury in vaxes anymore?

It is a continuing argument. States want to remove it, other groups want to keep it in vaccines. If they all agree that it should be removed, than it is pretty much saying mercury was the main problem with vaccines.

Even the vaccines that contain 'no mercury' do contain trace amounts that can not be filtered out from the vaccine manufacturing process.

ARe they really still harmful and why?

There is NOTHING good about vaccines. I can not think of one reason to inject a human body with all that stuff and expect it to gain health from it. It does not even make sense. When you read along here for a while, and read what is posted in the archive, you will be much more informed. Then you will agree, I am sure.

For now, just don't inject your child with any more vaccines until you learn about all the ingredients. Because once you learn and see what is really going on, you will feel very sorry for having done more. I know because we stopped short of fully researching the issue and thought we knew it all. So we did one vaccine at a time, preservative free, and then we learned that we had still been shortsighted.

FTR, dd is already high in many metals and now I'm trying to figure out what to do next.

TIA

Eventually you may consider de-toxing her.

[suschi]

Vax links

Here's a link to a page I put together that includes some information I came across while researching vaccines. Pay special attention to the congressional hearings as you will get both sides of the issue. Even the experts disagree on the "safety" of vaccines. Bottom line, it is admitted that vaccines "are as safe as can be". Is that good enough for your children?

http://www.spaces.msn.com/members/vaccination

[Tracy]

suschi's links are great. good place to start.

in the meantime you might want to take a look at this thread.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=367180

after thinking long and hard after reading the above thread and other stuff, I think anyone who wants to vax their child should think of some questions..

Was I on the Pill?
What kind of shape were my vitamins and minerals?
Was my mother on The Pill?
Are there any autoimmune issues in my family?
Really, how was my diet prior to TTC?
Do I have any almalgams?

my own situation with my DS is that he has mild SID. I did not vax. But I was vegetarian for 20 years prior to DS and I think my own vitamins and minerals were way down even with the PreNatals. (I threw up until the 8th month which I know from other threads can indicate low EHA's.) I also have two very small almagams in my teeth and wonder about them. But probably and this is very side discusssion... I think the ultrasounds DS had when I was pregnant contributed a great deal to his SID...but my point is that it is a whole bunch of things that contribute to these issues.. I am just so dang grateful I did not Vax DS because I now shudder what may have been the result.

by the way here are the stats on the diseases for 2005 in the united states.

Looking at the last issue of the CDC's disease surveillance for 2005 (12/23)...

it appears that the total of reported diseases was:

Measles 62
Mumps 255
Rubella 16
Tetanus 19
HiB (sero b) 5
Hib (non sero b) 104
hiB (unknown sero) 183

the united states has a population of about 180 million. So, as you can see, the case numbers are quite low.


http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/wk/mm5450.pdf

Of course for me the reason NOT to vax is not so much because of the low numbers above. I'm old and I remember childhood diseases and I just am not afraid of them. My peers and I when we were growing up missed a week of school and that was sort of it. Not a big deal and indeed if you look up how to treat the childhood diseases you will see that they are pretty simple. The one that can be tricky of course is Pertussis for babies under Six months. But you might also want to look here for what moms have done when their child got pertussis.