Oh Boy! Would you pay this? - Page 6

[oetien]

Originally Posted by Sustainer

I had to laugh out loud at the word "affluent." I am poor. Every once in a while, I pay higher than retail for a diaper. It is my one indulgence. I think most poor people have at least one indulgence. I also spend all the birthday and holiday money that people give me on diapers.

If I weren't holding back, I might go into the idea that certain comments are beginning to sound as if they are rooted in envy, and that bitter feelings are being projected.

No one is judging anyone for commenting that they can't afford the diaper.

Hhhhmmm, saying that people's comment are rooted in envy isn't judgemental?
And about the poor comment, you forgot, some people are too poor to afford that kind of indulgence.

[PatchyMama]

i guess its been a while.. its about time for another one of these I thought we had gotten past it :

[Knittin' in the Shade]

A lot of other comments sound as if they're taking things personally when they weren't intended that way, and as though they're rooted in insecurity, guilt, and defensiveness.

No, not rooted in insecurity or guilt, but maybe a bit of defensiveness. If you've beena round the CD forums here long enough, you've seen that the "hyenas" have been mocked, ridiculed and called many not-so-nice things becuase of the way the choose to spend their money. I, for one, do not personally spend a good deal of money on diapers, but I'd hate to have someone come through my life and pick apart my yarn spending habits, LOL. I'd think that especially here, everyone would be applauding supporting a talented WAHM in this way. Those diapers are NOT easy to make and they are exceptionally beautiful.

Honestly, I think that y'all need to look at the history here, and see how far back some of the animosity regarding hyenas goes. The CD forums are split the way they are, in my opinion, in large part because of the desire to segregate the nasty, consumerist hyenas from the rest of the normal population.

[Marco Esquandolas]

: PSA for the day-if reading this sort of post gets your panties in a wad, then don't read it or post on it.

You may unclench now.

[mals*nutrition]

man, if i could manage to make a diaper that perfect you better believe i'd be charging $$$. and that embroidery design is probably over 50,000 stitches. the going rate for embroidery is $1/1,000 so that's an at least $50 embroidery design.

[PatchyMama]

Originally Posted by phishmama

: PSA for the day-if reading this sort of post gets your panties in a wad, then don't read it or post on it.

You may unclench now.

:

[boingo82]

Originally Posted by Knittin' in the Shade

No, not rooted in insecurity or guilt, but maybe a bit of defensiveness. If you've beena round the CD forums here long enough, you've seen that the "hyenas" have been mocked, ridiculed and called many not-so-nice things becuase of the way the choose to spend their money. I, for one, do not personally spend a good deal of money on diapers, but I'd hate to have someone come through my life and pick apart my yarn spending habits, LOL. I'd think that especially here, everyone would be applauding supporting a talented WAHM in this way. Those diapers are NOT easy to make and they are exceptionally beautiful. ..

Well I agree about the beauty of the things made, and actually, am glad that there is a market to support WAHMs who want to make fewer items with more detailing. It would be a boring world for WAHMs if everyone could only spend $7-10/diaper. Personally, all the fun is in the applique for me. I could not would not make plain white cheap diapers.

My problem with this thread was when people started getting their panties in a bunch just because others were surprised that a diaper could cost that much! And that prefold comment.

I really think there is a big misunderstanding and some projecting. I don't think any of the "poor" or "different-prioritied" posters were criticising people who would spend that much on a diaper. It just caught some of us by surprise. That is all.

[PatchyMama]

which prefold comment? Someone posted an analogy .. and someone else posted a "do you know why anyone would use prefolds" or something.. which one do you mean because I thought the 2nd one was posted by a prefold user... but i could have taken that completely wrong I guess.

[nonnymoose]

I think I'm going to use prefolds to change the oil in my Humvee...



Seriously, this was nice:

If you've beena round the CD forums here long enough, you've seen that the "hyenas" have been mocked, ridiculed and called many not-so-nice things becuase of the way the choose to spend their money. I, for one, do not personally spend a good deal of money on diapers, but I'd hate to have someone come through my life and pick apart my yarn spending habits, LOL. I'd think that especially here, everyone would be applauding supporting a talented WAHM in this way. Those diapers are NOT easy to make and they are exceptionally beautiful.

it makes a little more sense out of some of the really goofy-defensive posts I'm seeing. Really, we love you all, even if you spend all your money on diapers.

[boingo82]

Originally Posted by zaksma

That diaper is gorgeous and from what I have heard, Christy's work is outstanding. Personally, I think it is a little rude to come on here a criticize how much someone else pays for a diaper that they obviously love and have no problem buying- no matter what the price is. I mean, no one would come on here and comment on "why would *anyone* ever only use cheap diapers like prefolds?" I'm not trying to be an ass, just wanted to point that out.

This one.

[PatchyMama]

I guess im missing something because I thought that person was just trying to point out the opposite of what was being said in this thread and that it wouldnt be ok to post a comment like that here. (not that it was her opinion) I have had the flu so maybe im just reading it differently

[zaksma]

Originally Posted by PatchyMama

I guess im missing something because I thought that person was just trying to point out the opposite of what was being said in this thread and that it wouldnt be ok to post a comment like that here. (not that it was her opinion) I have had the flu so maybe im just reading it differently

That was my exact intent. I use prefolds (occasionally) so I would never knock someone for using them. And no, I have never spent $150 on a diaper either just for the record- so I am not one of the "affluent" posters here, I guess. If you would have taken the time to read another post that I made in this thread, I don't care how much your diapers cost- that *is* my entire point. I didn't come on the thread and say- "hey, using prefolds is stupid and I would never use them since they only cost a couple of bucks." I posted an analogy (which luckily, some other people picked up on)- which apparently went over the heads of some people.

[boingo82]

Originally Posted by PatchyMama

I guess im missing something because I thought that person was just trying to point out the opposite of what was being said in this thread and that it wouldnt be ok to post a comment like that here. (not that it was her opinion) I have had the flu so maybe im just reading it differently

I didn't think that was the poster's opinion, but I was bothered that she though it was equivalent to the questions in the thread.


BTW I liked your comment before you edited it.

I use cloth, but I throw 'em away after each use and buy all new ones. How's that!

[PatchyMama]

Originally Posted by boingo82

I use cloth, but I throw 'em away after each use and buy all new ones. How's that!

Thats ok as long as you are shaking the poop into the toilet :

[Leilalu]

OY VAY!!!!

I'm just seriously hoping we don't have to split again into something like"Hyena show and tell" and "frugal show and tell"

I mean, I for one am not getting my panties in a bunch over those who oppose people spending money on things they like that are worthwhile(partly because I am not wearing any at the moment,laundry day!)

But um, this is nice to do every month or so. It just makes us stronger with our response, yk? I personally spend the big money on the yarn and fabric now,and actually haven't shopped hynacart in 2 weeks. No flames, please, I've been doing my own hyena thing. Making those expensive diapers and soakers....but I do love a good stalking now and then!!! Gets the adrenaline pumping and helps a few great hardworking moms put a good organic homecooked meal on the table.Heartwarming

[Sustainer]

Originally Posted by boingo82

What is critical about being shocked at that? It is shocking, to some people.

If you can't help an initial feeling of shock the first time you see a diaper sell for that price, that's fine. But if you actually post a thread expressing your amazement at someone's diaper spending choices on the cloth diaper message board where the people who buy the diapers come to chat, you should expect some reactions.

Originally Posted by boingo82

I grabbed at a luxury SUV as an example of an object that is not affordable to everyone

Generally, the reason people are criticized for buying SUVs is the environmental impact.

Originally Posted by boingo82

OK, I'm poor too. I'm spending my $150 on a back door that isn't broken and doesn't leak large volumes of cold air in winter.

Obviously we all have to spend money on things like that. But most of us (including poor people) also make at least one "luxury" expenditure per year. If it's not cloth diapers it's something else.

Originally Posted by boingo82

A lot of other comments sound as if they're taking things personally when they weren't intended that way, and as though they're rooted in insecurity, guilt, and defensiveness.

Again, I think there's some projecting going on. When I buy cloth diapers and support WAHMs, "guilt" is not a word I'd use to describe the way my actions make me feel.

Originally Posted by boingo82

That "prefold" question sounded like judgment.

That was only meant as a demonstration of the comparison between questioning the practice of choosing a high priced fitted and if someone were to question the practice of choosing a low priced prefold.

Yup, you just quoted it. Thank you. The whole point was that "no one would say that!"

[zaksma]

Originally Posted by Sustainer

That was only meant as a demonstration of the comparison between questioning the practice of choosing a high priced fitted and if someone were to question the practice of choosing a low priced prefold

Thank you!

[Mama Bear]

Originally Posted by PatchyMama

i guess its been a while.. its about time for another one of these I thought we had gotten past it :

Oh, how I wish we could go back to a year ago....<sigh>

[hillymum]

Originally Posted by Sustainer

If you can't help an initial feeling of shock the first time you see a diaper sell for that price, that's fine. But if you actually post a thread expressing your amazement at someone's diaper spending choices on the cloth diaper message board where the people who buy the diapers come to chat, you should expect some reactions.

I wasn't shocked, I was amazed. Get it right please. And for your information I was amazed and impressed. I haven't once said anything negative about the diaper, the diaper maker or the diaper buyer. I haven't said outright, hinted at or insinuated that someone who spends a lot of money on one cloth diaper is mad, nuts, needs their head examined, their bank cards taken from them or are in any way irrisponsible, dumb or selfish for paying such an amount on one diaper. All this thread was supposed to be about was that I couldn't believe someone paid that much for a diaper, would you pay it, and to the diaper maker. I asked a simple question. There are a few who seem to like to for no good reason other than to see how soon they can wind people up and get a thread locked. Answer the question and then feel free to move on. (And if the question offends feel free to not read it!)

[oetien]

You know, poor people always get riled up about everything that rich people do. It's normal!