Oh Boy! Would you pay this? - Page 5

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by daekini

I'd pay that, oh yes, and definitely would let ds wear it. My dh and I have an agreement that the reason why dipes are good for collecting (and yes, it's a hobby) is because it is something useful. Lots of people collect things that have no real functional purpose (some of you, maybe?) ~ I'm not saying that's wrong, I just prefer to spend money on beautiful things that have a job to do ... and it's a bonus, knowing the money is going toward the family of a hard-working WAHM so she can raise her kids herself.

That is so true! I like what you are saying. Collecting something utilitarian is quite admirable. When you put it that way, I understand a $150 diaper a little better! Thanks!

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by jest

I was not criticizing. I'm sorry if it came off that way to you. I'm relatively new here and it just surprised me to see that so many people would pay so much money for one diaper (and I did acknowlege that it is a beautiful diaper.) Hey, if you have the money and that's what you like to spend it on, there is nothing wrong with that.

I did not read a smidge of criticism in your post. Don't worry about it. Some people feel sensitive if they are more, what is the word, affluent. And I KNOW I am going to piss someone off with that. Believe me, I am holding back here!

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by Sustainer

That can still make people feel like they are being judged. A LOT of the people in this forum have spent that much, or more, on a single diapering item. There has been some hurtful criticism in the past so it is a touchy subject here.

Okay, I am sorry, but here goes. Am I supposed to now feel sorry for someone who can afford $150 diaper? $150 feeds my family for a month. And I feel lucky about that. Why should those of us who comment that we cannot afford to buy an expensive diaper be made to feel guilty about commenting on said diaper? Wow, maybe I am more of a Socialist than I thought, but that doesn't seem right. I am not judging those that can buy the diaper, and I will not be judged for commenting that I can't afford it!!! But I am going to stop posting, because I can't keep up with the thread!

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by zaksma

Personally, I don't care why anyone would- that is kind of the point of my post even if it may have gotten lost in translation....some people prefer to use prefolds and more power to them, but you would never see that posted. I don't care if your diapers cost $2 each or $200 each- at least you are using cloth diapers, right?

Okay, that is a good point. Cloth diapering is the goal.

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by nonnymoose

I wouldn't pay $50K for a Humvee, so I guess I'd better not mention that in case I hurt somebody's feelings. Actually, I wouldn't pay a dollar for a Humvee, and I bet most of us wouldn't! Everyone has different ideas about what's important to them, and it's silly to get your knickers in a twist over it.
Besides, the OP titled the thread "Oh Boy! Would you pay this?" not "What kind of idiot pays this much for a diaper?"
I actually find it interesting to hear the different viewpoints on diaper buying. I tend to window-shop obsessively, then spend a large chunk on a package of diapers, generally new/first quality. I probably wouldn't buy used, and I rarely buy seconds. There are plenty of people that do both, and I enjoy reading about it. I generally steer away from fancy diapers, because I don't see the point when my son wears pants 90% of the time. There's no way I'd pay more than about twenty bucks for a single diaper, unless it actually jumps in the diaper pail by itself. In fact, I'm gobsmacked that someone WOULD pay that much for a single diaper. That certainly doesn't mean I look down on the purchaser - we just have different priorities.

True, and eloquently put.

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by kynd mama

((HUGS)) Hillymum!

I don't think you were being snarky. *I* would spend $$$$$ on yarn and fabric!... now how many of us would do that?!?!

(ETA: good for Christy! I don't mind anyone paying mega-bucks for anything WAHM-made! It's a good deal for all involved!)

Yay! Yarn and Fabric!!! ITA that WAHMs deserve to be paid well for their work too!!!

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by boingo82

I don't think it was intended as criticism....consider for a moment that there are plenty of us to whom the thought never occured that people, you know, REAL people, actually CAN spend that kind of money on one clothing item.
Criticism? No. Astonishment? Yes. I totally did not realize that there were so many people here who even could spend $150 on one thing. I mean, I hate to spend $12 on one new bra for myself. $150 on one diaper is as foreign to me as buying all new carpet. Or a whole room of new furniture. That just does not exist in my reality.
As for the prefolds...many of the people who use pfs only, do it because that's all they can do. It is pretty different to compare someone who can choose to spend a lot on one diaper, to someone who HAS to use prefolds because they could not afford anything else. Like getting all insulted that someone does not like your Lexus SUV and asking them, "well...nobody asks you why you drive an ugly econobox..so there!"
Different ballpark.

ITA! It amazes me that mamas have so much in common, but when it comes to economics, well...

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by F and L

Just to echo all of the comments about the absolute stunning beauty of Christy's work, and the sweetness of Christy herself. And to add a bit of information that shows what a generous and kind mama she is. She just gave away a beautiful fitted absolutely for free by lottery on hyenacart. She raised soooo much money for the Fluff Factory auctions by putting a number of things up for 100% donation, giving what could only have been hours and hours and hours of her time and talent and expensive materials to make such exquisite things for charity. And all of this while she's heavily pregnant and looking after a toddler. She is a rare and special mama.

She sounds like a wonderful WAHM to support, and a wonderful person! I don't think anyone here is doubting any of what you just posted. The issue isn't really about Christy, or her beautiful dipe.

[greenwoman2006]

Originally Posted by hillymum

A few comments in response.
1) Who has criticized the buyer? Not me? Seems to me your reading things that haven't been writen, insinuated or even hinted at.

2) I should imagine Christy knows what people think of her diapers. Nobody has anything to say about them but praise! I wonder if she was as stunned as I was to see the final figure that the diaper went for. Even if she wasn't I hope she was happy with it.

3) This thread was an interesting read apparently for many people. No one has been rude or unkind apart from.....


I have been coming here for over 6 months and haven't seen a diaper go for so much before. For all I know there have been many, aparantly there have been, but I have not seen them. I haven't said it is wrong to pay that much for a diaper, and I don't think anyone else here has either. How you interpret the writen word is your business. Just don't twist them to turn people against others. All I did was express amazement that a diaper would sell for that much. Should I have added a smily face so that you would find it harder to missinterpret what I said?


(Thanks for the hugs Angelina and the understanding from others!)
nak

Good for you Mama.

[oetien]

Originally Posted by greenwoman2006

Isn't cloth diapering about keeping our children safe and keeping our environment (for their future) safe? It isn't about who has the most expensive stash people. Or perhaps that is the American way.

I agree with you! A lot of time I feel bad and feel defensive because I can't afford hyena diapers for my child. Feels like I'm not giving her the best I can or something, even if it's not true...

[Mama K]

[nonnymoose]

I'll also mention that I can't stand the idea of having to compete for a diaper. Hyena cart? Stocking? Stalking? Um, no thanks. Just tell me if you have what I want, and if not, how long it'll be. I am SO not a fan of delayed gratification!

[spatulagirl]

This thread is staying very nice and polite, yay!

The truth is we get one of these once a month or so and they usually involve Fussybutt

I just tried doing a search but it looks as though all the old threads have been deleted. They usually turn nasty.

[boingo82]

Originally Posted by nonnymoose

I'll also mention that I can't stand the idea of having to compete for a diaper. Hyena cart? Stocking? Stalking? Um, no thanks. Just tell me if you have what I want, and if not, how long it'll be. I am SO not a fan of delayed gratification!

ITA with that! Show me what you have for sale NOW, and if I want it, I'll buy it. Oh wait...there is gonna be a contest where I have to compete to spend more than I can afford on your item? Nevermind then.

[oetien]

Originally Posted by boingo82

ITA with that! Show me what you have for sale NOW, and if I want it, I'll buy it. Oh wait...there is gonna be a contest where I have to compete to spend more than I can afford on your item? Nevermind then.

For me, the stalking part is fun, but paying more than I can afford one is not, so I just stalk for other people!

[nonnymoose]

I think that's pretty cool, really. You get to stalk, they get the diaper, you keep your money...everybody's happy!

[Sustainer]

Originally Posted by greenwoman2006

I don't think that it is "un-pc" for people who cannot afford to buy gorgeous $150 diapers to simply state that they cannot afford to buy $150 diapers.

No one is taking issue with the posts that say "I can't buy the diaper because I don't have the money." The posts that people are taking issue with are the posts that say "I'm shocked that anyone would pay that much for a diaper" or that compare it to buying an environmentally destructive SUV (which is particularly ludicrous since a cloth diaper is about the most environmentally friendly product anyone could by).

Originally Posted by greenwoman2006

Isn't cloth diapering about keeping our children safe and keeping our environment (for their future) safe? It isn't about who has the most expensive stash people. Or perhaps that is the American way.

You are the only person on this thread to suggest the idea of cloth diapering being about who has the most expensive stash.

Originally Posted by greenwoman2006

Some people feel sensitive if they are more, what is the word, affluent.

I had to laugh out loud at the word "affluent." I am poor. Every once in a while, I pay higher than retail for a diaper. It is my one indulgence. I think most poor people have at least one indulgence. I also spend all the birthday and holiday money that people give me on diapers.

Originally Posted by greenwoman2006

Believe me, I am holding back here!

If I weren't holding back, I might go into the idea that certain comments are beginning to sound as if they are rooted in envy, and that bitter feelings are being projected.

Originally Posted by greenwoman2006

Am I supposed to now feel sorry for someone who can afford $150 diaper?

Of course not. I never said anything like that. All I said is that you might want to consider your wording. Saying "wow that auction went high" would be one thing. But saying "I'm amazed that someone would pay that much for a diaper" can have a different effect on the person who bought it as well as on the other people who have paid that much.

Originally Posted by greenwoman2006

Why should those of us who comment that we cannot afford to buy an expensive diaper be made to feel guilty about commenting on said diaper?

No one has said that people who can't afford to buy an expensive diaper should feel guilty.

Originally Posted by greenwoman2006

I will not be judged for commenting that I can't afford it!!!

No one is judging anyone for commenting that they can't afford the diaper.

[spatulagirl]

Alice my love I have missed you

[boingo82]

Originally Posted by Sustainer

..The posts that people are taking issue with are the posts that say "I'm shocked that anyone would pay that much for a diaper"

What is critical about being shocked at that? It is shocking, to some people.

or that compare it to buying an environmentally destructive SUV (which is particularly ludicrous since a cloth diaper is about the most environmentally friendly product anyone could by).

I grabbed at a luxury SUV as an example of an object that is not affordable to everyone, and that people get all defensive about when it's questioned why they spent so much money on it. I honestly was not bringing the environmental stuff up at all...

I had to laugh out loud at the word "affluent." I am poor. Every once in a while, I pay higher than retail for a diaper. It is my one indulgence. I think most poor people have at least one indulgence. I also spend all the birthday and holiday money that people give me on diapers.

OK, I'm poor too. I'm spending my $150 on a back door that isn't broken and doesn't leak large volumes of cold air in winter.

If I weren't holding back, I might go into the idea that certain comments are beginning to sound as if they are rooted in envy, and that bitter feelings are being projected.

A lot of other comments sound as if they're taking things personally when they weren't intended that way, and as though they're rooted in insecurity, guilt, and defensiveness.

But saying "I'm amazed that someone would pay that much for a diaper" can have a different effect on the person who bought it as well as on the other people who have paid that much.

How does being "amazed" at the price of an item equate to criticism? It doesn't!@!

No one has said that people who can't afford to buy an expensive diaper should feel guilty.
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No one is judging anyone for commenting that they can't afford the diaper.

That "prefold" question sounded like judgment.

[nonnymoose]

Originally Posted by Sustainer

No one is judging anyone for commenting that they can't afford the diaper.

Some people (okay, I mean you) are doing an awful lot of judging, though.

How's the view up there on that horse?