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post #1621 of 1903
I swear it was an original thought!!!

Plus, I don't know where to find the Duggar freak show on the tv without mercy site.

db
post #1622 of 1903
http://forums.televisionwithoutpity....&#entry5016375

I have not checked it in abt a week. It is up tp 79 pgs, I see.
post #1623 of 1903
Hey, we've got that TVWOP thread beat by three whole pages!!
post #1624 of 1903
Theirs is better. Or worse. IIKWIM.
post #1625 of 1903
Someone on the tvwopity site said they freeze-framed a shot of the Duggars packing books and one of them was Growing Kids God's Way~ aka Ezzo.
post #1626 of 1903
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaryLLL
Someone on the tvwopity site said they freeze-framed a shot of the Duggars packing books and one of them was Growing Kids God's Way~ aka Ezzo.
What is Ezzo?

I couldn't imagine having 16 kids, there are days I can't imagine having 2!
post #1627 of 1903
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelBee
The church does not promote NFP. They allow it is cases that are severe....just reasons.

The Catholic Church teaches:
...For just reasons, spouses may wish to space the births of their children. It is their duty to make certain that their desire is not motivated by selfishness but is in conformity with the generosity appropriate to responsible parenthood. Moreover, they should conform their behavior to the objective criteria of morality... [Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) 2368].

It is their duty to make certain that their desire is not motivated by selfishness
I HAVE NOT READ THE WHOLE THREAD, I'm only on page 60. But I had to respond to this. The church does indeed promote NFP. It is actually taught in classes in parishes across the country. It is the preferred method of birth control and spacing children. As for "just reasons" they are up to the couple and the church doesn't dictate or interfere here. (Thank God!) For some people, finishing school is a just reason and should not be condemned. For others, it may be the parents wanting to devote some time to each child, allowing them to be a baby before moving on to the next one. To me, if a mother feels "overwhelmed" she should wait and space them a bit. Better that than to drown them in a bathtub! Seriously.

Also, dh and I just watched this show the other night, which is why I started reading this monster of a thread. THese people are sick. Weaning a baby to get knocked up again is not "just" IMO. Neither is handing off a baby to be raised by a sib. It's not just getting a jacket or combing hair, but these kids are actually parenting each other. That's not good, IMO. They are responsible for TEACHING their buddies?? This is right on their website! (Thanks for the link Daryll) Get real! If mom can't teach them herself she should either put them in school or stop having kids for a while.

I feel bad for the older ones. They spend so much time taking care of the other kids, cleaning and teaching the little ones that I doubt they get much time to pursue their own interests. I also think they are limiting their kids. LIke Debra Baker, our girls are being raised with the expectation that they will attend college. Even if they don't use the degree in their work, there is still intrinsic value in the education. My degree is in education. After my third was born, it wasn't practical to work for me. So I started writing freelance to allow me to be home and work at the same time. However, my education helped hone my writing skills and made me a better researcher. Although I'm not currently using my education, there was value in it.

The blanket training thing makes me sick. Enough said on that one!

Dh thought the parents were "creepy". Then he said the kids were freaking him out. He thought they were 1. robots 2. stepford children 3. children of the corn. We value individuality in our kids and I don't mean just in the foods they like. OK, I'm off to read the rest of this thread!
post #1628 of 1903
This is the thread that never ends...
It just goes on and on my friends...
Every time the Duggar show repeats on TLC...
This thread pops up on new posts and we rehash everything...
post #1629 of 1903
Oh, my, Darylll, thank you for that link to television without pity. It's awful, yet priceless stuff.

The other thing I have gleaned from this fascinating thread is that there is actually a website called patriarch.org, a newsletter called Patriarch's Path, and a whole bunch 'o conservative people who believe married women should be denied the vote because a woman's vote might negate that of her husband's, thereby undermining his dominant role in life. The idea is for each household to have one vote, which would be cast, of course, by the husband (after consulting with his wife) - makes sense, no?

Off to read more television w/o pity . . .
post #1630 of 1903
Quote:
Originally Posted by thismama
This is the thread that never ends...
It just goes on and on my friends...
Every time the Duggar show repeats on TLC...
This thread pops up on new posts and we rehash everything...
Sorry didn't mean to rehash. But like pps said, once I read that far, I just had to post. I can't believe I actually read this whole thing. I really need to get a life!
post #1631 of 1903
Quote:
Originally Posted by thismama
This is the thread that never ends...
It just goes on and on my friends...
Every time the Duggar show repeats on TLC...
This thread pops up on new posts and we rehash everything...
And everytime someone posts, the Duggar's have another baby.
post #1632 of 1903
Quote:
Originally Posted by mamadawg
And everytime someone posts, the Duggar's have another baby.
Oh my.
Now I feel all guilty.
post #1633 of 1903
Quote:
Originally Posted by mamajama
Oh my.
Now I feel all guilty.
Yup. If mama duggar's uterus falls out, we'll now know to blame the true perp - mamajama.
post #1634 of 1903
Quote:
Originally Posted by writermommy
I HAVE NOT READ THE WHOLE THREAD, I'm only on page 60. But I had to respond to this. The church does indeed promote NFP. It is actually taught in classes in parishes across the country. It is the preferred method of birth control and spacing children. As for "just reasons" they are up to the couple and the church doesn't dictate or interfere here. (Thank God!) For some people, finishing school is a just reason and should not be condemned. For others, it may be the parents wanting to devote some time to each child, allowing them to be a baby before moving on to the next one. To me, if a mother feels "overwhelmed" she should wait and space them a bit. Better that than to drown them in a bathtub! Seriously.
Key word is "preferred".

If you need birth control, NFP is the "preferred" choice.
post #1635 of 1903
I killed a thread!
post #1636 of 1903
It died of natural causes.
post #1637 of 1903
Until the next show, due in June, when the Duggars Go West.
post #1638 of 1903
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaryLLL
Until the next show, due in June, when the Duggars Go West.
Are they going to be staying in the Castro district of San Francisco?

I'd PAY to see that...
post #1639 of 1903
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingspaghettimama
Are they going to be staying in the Castro district of San Francisco?

I'd PAY to see that...
No, just the Grand Canyon and Disney. And JimBob shepherded the kids away from that seductive siren Ariel with her shell covered attractions.
post #1640 of 1903
Maybe they'll put all the J-girls together in one room, all th J-boys together in another room and Jim-bob and of-Jim-bob will get their own private room and make baby # 17 (of course, announcing to the many varied cameras ahead of time,) and name it.....

Jizzney