16 children - Page 11

[AngelBee]

Originally Posted by Viola

Thank you for the hug

[annettemarie]

Originally Posted by AngelBee

Likewise.

As I said before, I don't believe calling sin sin is judging, nor is making an observation.

[AngelBee]

Originally Posted by eightyferrettoes

Yeah, and I think that's why accountability needs to go both ways-- and, in a religious situation, the church needs, needs, needs to NOT blindly turn an eye to the abuse of husbandly authority, which I'd argue is unbelievably rampant in many communities.

I absolutely agree.

Originally Posted by eightyferrettoes

Ultimately, the husband becomes a priest in his own home. I'm especially concerned about homechurchers, because he really is the only human authority that family knows. Who is he accountable to? His personal interpretation of the Bible and God? And what if it's self-serving?

He is accountable to God.

Originally Posted by eightyferrettoes

The family suffers terribly under this model, and I'm having a tough time believing that any decent God likes seeing that.

Not every family suffers with headship in the home.

[AngelBee]

Originally Posted by annettemarie

As I said before, I don't believe calling sin sin is judging, nor is making an observation.

Questioning my faith?

[annettemarie]

Originally Posted by AngelBee

Questioning my faith?

I honestly didn't know if you were still Catholic Sorry if it made you uncomfortable.

[AngelBee]

Originally Posted by annettemarie

It just confuses me because you often make comments that are more in line with fundamentalism or non-denominational theology than what the Catholic church teaches. Thanks for clarifying!

ETA: And no one said 100% emulate but you, so it's a non-point in the discussion.

I do believe the Catholic church has become politically correct and is not inline with it's original doctrine.

I do not feel comfortable discussing that further though at this point.

That would explain some of the differences.

Please forgive me for being snarky to you Annettemarie.

[eightyferrettoes]

Originally Posted by AngelBee

Not every family suffers with headship in the home.

That is not the most profoundly ringing endorsement of husbandly authority I've ever heard, but it might be an accurate one, for once.

"Not every family suffers with chicken pox in the home."

"No, but the ones with any danged sense do!"



sorry, that's probably not funny to you. The other fundie escapees out there might enjoy my joke, though.

[AngelBee]

Originally Posted by annettemarie

Wouldn't you rather I asked for clarification than just make an assumption? I honestly didn't know if you were still Catholic or if you had become a fundamentalist and just forgotten to change your signature.

I changed it to add the new baby

It's just that you have asked numerous times. That's all.

[annettemarie]

Originally Posted by AngelBee

I do believe the Catholic church has become politically correct and is not inline with it's original doctrine.

I do not feel comfortable discussing that further though at this point.

That would explain some of the differences.

Please forgive me for being snarky to you Annettemarie.

That would definitely be a whole other thread.

[AngelBee]

Originally Posted by eightyferrettoes

That is not the most profoundly ringing endorsement of husbandly authority I've ever heard, but it might be an accurate one, for once.

"Not every family suffers with chicken pox in the home."

"No, but the ones with any danged sense do!"



sorry, that's probably not funny to you. The other fundie escapees out there might enjoy my joke, though.

Nope. Don't get the humor.

Was just saying that not all homes with headship are like your example.

[AngelBee]

Originally Posted by annettemarie

That would definitely be a whole other thread.

[AngelBee]

Originally Posted by annettemarie

Wouldn't you rather I asked for clarification than just make an assumption? I honestly didn't know if you were still Catholic or if you had become a fundamentalist and just forgotten to change your signature. Besides, St. Peter wrote, "Be prepared to give an account of the hope that is in you.'" most Christians I know are happy to share about their faith journey. Sorry if it made you uncomfortable.

I am more than willing to share.

This is just not the place for that.

[mykdsmomy]

Originally Posted by eightyferrettoes

That is not the most profoundly ringing endorsement of husbandly authority I've ever heard, but it might be an accurate one, for once.

"Not every family suffers with chicken pox in the home."

"No, but the ones with any danged sense do!"



sorry, that's probably not funny to you. The other fundie escapees out there might enjoy my joke, though.

I think that's totally uncalled for.

[TCMoulton]

Originally Posted by annettemarie

And their own words on their own website. Honestly, AngelBee, I don't see why you feel the need to defend them. They're smacking their kids around in Jesus' name. I would think that would be enough to discredit them right there.

Just curious, how do you know that the Dugger family is "smacking their kids"? I have seen no evidence that they hit their children and in my book that is a serious charge to make. While they may follow a certain religious belief, in everything I have seen from their tv specials to the family's own websites and nowhere has there ever been mention of them hitting their children.

[sophiesue2]

Just curious, how do you know that the Dugger family is "smacking their kids"?

A HOW-TO GUIDE

The Duggars consider the Bible something of an owner's manual, a how-to for life. They sometimes employ "time outs" to discipline their children, but they also think the Bible teaches parents to spank and even instructs on how to do it.

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[TCMoulton]

Okay, that says that they believe that the bible teaches parents to spank their children but no where does it say that they themselves spank - I just think that before you accuse someone of smacking their kids around that there should be concrete proof that they do it.

[DaryLLL]

Originally Posted by TCMoulton

Okay, that says that they believe that the bible teaches parents to spank their children but no where does it say that they themselves spank - I just think that before you accuse someone of smacking their kids around that there should be concrete proof that they do it.

[flyingspaghettimama]

As one of the posters pointing out the various absurdities of dress and hair in the Duggar family, I would like to point out that Mr. Duggar is a (failed) political candidate. If that does not open one up for public ridicule (other than being on TLC), then I'm not sure what would.

And, c'mon. Do you think they are on MDC television forum. reading posts, hanging their heads in shame at the baby beating and making a phone call to a hairstylist? Bet not. Once you start with blanket time combined with political ambition, you're fair game on so many levels.

[AngelBee]

Originally Posted by flyingspaghettimama

As one of the posters pointing out the various absurdities of dress and hair in the Duggar family, I would like to point out that Mr. Duggar is a (failed) political candidate. If that does not open one up for public ridicule (other than being on TLC), then I'm not sure what would.

And, c'mon. Do you think they are on MDC television forum. reading posts, hanging their heads in shame at the baby beating and making a phone call to a hairstylist? Bet not. Once you start with blanket time combined with political ambition, you're fair game on so many levels.

[TCMoulton]

[QUOTE=flyingspaghettimama]As one of the posters pointing out the various absurdities of dress and hair in the Duggar family, I would like to point out that Mr. Duggar is a (failed) political candidate. If that does not open one up for public ridicule (other than being on TLC), then I'm not sure what would.

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How is he a failed canidate if he served a term of office? Doesn't that mean that he succeeded at being elected?