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post #61 of 99
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Originally posted by hlsanders

(I can't imagine there is any 'perfection' with EC'ing),
LOL! Is there any perfection in PARENTING??? You sound like it's going great for you! My ds doesn't pee in his sleep either, it's cool! My dd didn't either, but I didn't know about EC back then.

Congrats on how well it's going for you
post #62 of 99
Thread Starter 
Melanie, this may be a redundant question, but did you start from birth? I SOOOOO wish NOW that I had started from birth with Kenny simply because I believe it would be so much easier for him to have never known any other way.

Next Baby!

Is there an estimation for about what age (or how long) it usually takes before it is relatively 100%? (or is that a pipe-dream and I should just wish for the best, focus on communicating and be grateful that Kenny and I are 'talking')?

Shannon, good point . . . no, PARENTING is 100% trial and error! At least in this household it is!
post #63 of 99
:LOL Heather--DD sometimes pees like that too :LOL

I've noticed that sometimes after naps when she's reached the point she needs to go and I know or reasonably suspect as much, she sometimes seems to have trouble getting started. I've started taking a moment to go myself and telling her how much better I feel afterwards (sounds so silly, I know :LOL) but 9 times out of 10 she'll go after that. I don't know if it's the extra few minutes, or me going or both, but it seems to be helpful for her.

I know what you mean about misses when you have 1000 things to do! I found when I first started this that I felt kinda mentally drained at the end of the day cause I had to be constantly conciously tuned in. That part has gotten easier over time though!
post #64 of 99
We started when Tristan was a week old. Wanted to figure out bf'ing first!
I'm also interested in knowing when a baby can go diaperless 100% of the time...I'm thinking that Tristan will be there when he learns to communicate through signing or talking.
post #65 of 99
Thread Starter 
Are any of you guys on the Elimination Comm. Yahoo Group? I had to receive it via Daily Digest. I signed up for it yesterday and had 25 posts or so before I knew it. It was a bit overwhelming.

Do many EC'ers sign? At what age?
post #66 of 99
Heather,
I'm rereading Laurie Boucke's Infant Potty Training book and she says that it takes 8-24 months for babies to be 100% or "graduated". And that you should plan on it taking longer, since it's not about how soon your baby is "trained" but rather about the communication and meeting your babe's needs. (not her words exactly but you get the idea)

The way I ECed, which was sort of part time, I was able to have my son out of dipes at 21 months. He was very reliable out of the house, also I paid more attention to him. At home he continued having "accidents," usually at least once a day, for several months. I just kept him in training pants and it was fine.

I'm on the EC list and have been nomail for a while, since my boy's older and we're not really ECing anymore. I like going to the list periodically and checking out all the cool offtopic discussions (babywearing ).

Reading IPT again and seeing how well you're doing makes me want to be more gung-ho about EC the 2nd time around. And start right at the beginning.


Vicki
post #67 of 99
Heather......

I'm not feeling very "in tune" today; no caught poops. It seems you and Kenny are much more in that mode. I'm gonna keep with it, though. She's napping right now, without a diaper on. I hope she's dry and will wanna pee soon after. Twice now, she's peed right after I took her away from the sink Maybe I just need to tough it out a little longer before I take her away.

DH isn't home yet and I'm anxious to get our little Baby Bjorn potty. I haven't told my mom yet what we're starting. I'm just gonna email her a picture of Esme on the potty. Hee hee She's an herbalist/reflexologist, so she's into "alternative" thinking.

For those of you who EC in colder climates........do you keep your babe diaperless? We keep it right at 69/70 in our house to save energy. I don't want her to be cold.....but I don't want our heat bill to go through the roof cuz we're ECing.

Also...anybody tried a modified EC method with an older child? I'm thinking of letting my 2 year old go diaperless tomorrow....just to help him realize when he has to go. It makes me a little sad when I think about how I conditioned him to ignore his urges to eliminate.

Lisa
post #68 of 99
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Lisa,
WOMAN! Kenny crapped ON ME (not in the sink, potty or a diaper), but ON ME twice last night and twice today. He's got some kind of spew factor going with his poop right now and I am still learning his cues. Funny thing is 2X it was right after I took him away and the other 2X were in the middle of a feeding. I thought he was stopping to get a breathe and then pshppppptt all over me!

And I have finally set a towel to the right of the sink for my 'patience' and 'rest' time. I take him to pee about 5 minutes after a feeding. I say pssss and if he doesn't do it in a minute or so, I rest his bum and my arms while he sits on the towel. Then, we do it again. I will do this for up to 10 minutes, but he almost always does it within this time period. And the towel will 'catch it' if he starts when we are 'resting.' I am looking forward to getting my potty too.

I'd say today we caught as many as we lost. He has a definite pattern though. I suggest charting for a day or two b/c that is what showed me the nap/wake/eat/pee pattern. There is not a pattern for poop . . . but THERE IS A FACE AND A GRUNT! Oh, and I should not forget - he kicks too!
post #69 of 99
Wow Heather I read this thread with so much interest!! Please keep it posted!!

I too have thought to myself, well what if I just "tried it" and see what happens for a day? I mean it's something I've heard about and understood the basics of for years but never fully read every single word about. I keep thinking I'll try and then I get going throughout the day and then I'll forget.
post #70 of 99
LOL, Heather....thanks for the encouragement. And that poop sound you spelled out "pshppppptt"....that's EXACTLY how it sounds! I like the idea of having a towel there. It seems like I'm just not patient enough with her (or my arms get tired).

Alright, I've gotta go check on her....she's still napping. Wanna catch her AS SOON as she wakes up. Do you make a poop sound when he poops, or do you just go psssssss for both?? I've been making a "OOoooooOO" grunting sound when she poops. Indy thinks its pretty funny....

Lisa

Where's my potty????
post #71 of 99
Thread Starter 
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Originally posted by spyiispy
Do you make a poop sound when he poops, or do you just go psssssss for both?? I've been making a "OOoooooOO" grunting sound when she poops.
I only make one sound . . . the Psssssss sound. Primarily because a lot of times he poops and pees at the same time and I couldn't do two sounds at the same time and it seems it would be confusing to him (and me, especially).
i look at it as our Elimination Cue and the more I add to it, the less natural it will be for me.

Tonight has been great though - caught the last poopy in a diaper while he was nursing, but then he fell asleep so I sauntered in here. He woke up and started crying and I knew he needed to go . . . so I took him and he waited to poop and pee until I gave him the Psssssss. Then, 10 minutes later he told me he needed to pee again and we did. Yea! That is a good ending to a relatively on and off day!

And oh how he smiles after we go at it succesfully. He just grins ear to ear and 'talks' to me.
post #72 of 99
That is so awesome, Heather! You're making me excited all over again about EC!!
post #73 of 99
Thread Starter 
Karen - yea, it really is cool.

Hey, I might try your 'going to the bathroom' trick myself. I've been downing loads of water lately and usually need to go about the time I think he might anyway.

Thanks for the suggestion. Glad also to hear from another momma that it takes a little time to get used to 'hearing' amidst the daily grind. I can't just stop everything - like preparing meals for my other lovely chil'ens!

My grandmother was overseas when she had my mother and my mother's older brother. They each had a nanny. Would that not be great at times to be able to have someone come in to cook, wash clothes and clean while we watched our children play and EC'ed our babies? HAHAHA! Talk about pipe dream!
post #74 of 99
Oh to be independently wealthy, eh?
post #75 of 99
oh yeah, meant to mention I've been crapped on too :LOL Thank goodness it's BF poop, eh? :LOL
post #76 of 99

absorbancy...

okay I'll say this in a VERY small voice, so no one be offended....

talk about absorbancy actually really horrifies me.... think about what we're saying "I want the maximum amount of pee to be able to be held so that none of it leaks out of where it's wrapped against my baby..." EEK!

I truly believe (knock wood) that EC will be to AP someday as is breastfeeding, babywearing, etc. It's just so instinctive, so natural, that going back to diaper training seems incomprehensible to me as well.

My .02

Ahleemah
post #77 of 99
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Re: absorbancy...

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Originally posted by Ahleemah
okay I'll say this in a VERY small voice, so no one be offended....

talk about absorbancy actually really horrifies me.... think about what we're saying "I want the maximum amount of pee to be able to be held so that none of it leaks out of where it's wrapped against my baby..." EEK!
Why would that offend . . . sounds very caring. That is why I was saying several posts back that my view on absorbency is changing. I even took out the snap-in soakers in my SugarPeas b/c I want to feel the instant Kenny wets, not later. And he's been wearing gauze (very porous) flatfolds and his prefolds too when he's not naked b/c I can snappi them off and on really fast upon feeling wetness.

Tonight he was crying BECAUSE he was wet and as soon as I took that diaper off he smiled a big, "Thank you momma!" That was too cool!
post #78 of 99
I agree. I've been toying with the idea of seeing if Michelle from SMJAE would make me a thinner and/or less absorbant (compared to my JBs) insert for my FB for just that reason. Though generally I can feel it immediately when I use just one JB (the warmth). I'm sure traditional societies would be appalled at our infant hygiene practices in the West....
post #79 of 99
Eli is a baby that cries very little.. Now that I'm dabbling with EC, I feel he's crying a bit more. Now that I'm attending to his dryness more carefully, he seems to be telling me when he is wet or poopy. ???I think???

Also, when I hold him over the sink sometimes he cries. I'm not sure if he cries because he is uncomfortable, or because he wants to pee and he can't or what.

Whew, this is giving me a lot to think about.

Ahleemah: This forum must make you crazy if you are disturbed by talk of absorbancy! That's practically the #1 word around here! y
Thanks for the perspective shift!

For now, I am showing progress when I say:

"I want the maximum amount of pee to be able to be held so that none of it leaks out of where it's wrapped against my baby..."

"for the shortest possible period of time!!"
post #80 of 99
Thread Starter 
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Originally posted by pamelamama
Eli is a baby that cries very little.. Now that I'm dabbling with EC, I feel he's crying a bit more. Now that I'm attending to his dryness more carefully, he seems to be telling me when he is wet or poopy. ???I think???
I bet so! Kenny is doing that!
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Also, when I hold him over the sink sometimes he cries. I'm not sure if he cries because he is uncomfortable, or because he wants to pee and he can't or what.
Kenny does this also. Now, last night I think he was having gas pains b/c he was jerking a bit. Today I think he was trying to figure out how to poop it out b/c his brow was furrowed, his face was turning red and when I pulled him away from the sink thinking he wanted to stop he hollered something awful!
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Whew, this is giving me a lot to think about.
Ain't it though?!
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