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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
All my children are born in August and we have the first one about to be ready for school. Her birthday is the 29th. She will be 5. I have the option of pre-K or Kindergarten at a private school we are sending her to. If you all were me, would you do pre-K and let her wait a year for Kindergarten?

This will set a precedent for our other DD and for our unborn child, too, as they are all August. What have others done?

Thanks~
Lisa
post #2 of 26
DS will be 5 August 31st (day of cut off) and we have signed him up for 1/2 day kindergarten.

Do you have specific concerns about DD?
post #3 of 26
Please wait until she is 6 to put her in Kinder. We put my niece Aug 5) in pre-k at 4 and kinder at 5 and it was the biggest mistake! Her maturity level was just not the same as kids almost an entire year older than her. She has been at the bottom of the class ever since. I also notice that all of the kids in the lower reading and math groups in her class are summer babies. I now think the cut off for school should be about April (they need to be 5 by then).

Give her another year to be a carefree kid. School can come later! We are waiting with my son (Aug 23 baby).

Just my experience. Hope it helps. Good luck.
post #4 of 26
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Originally Posted by TexasSuz
Please wait until she is 5 to put her in Kinder. We put my niece Aug 5) in pre-k at 4 and kinder at 5 and it was the biggest mistake! Her maturity level was just not the same as kids almost an entire year older than her. She has been at the bottom of the class ever since. I also notice that all of the kids in the lower reading and math groups in her class are summer babies. I now think the cut off for school should be about April (they need to be 5 by then).

Give her another year to be a carefree kid. School can come later! We are waiting with my son (Aug 23 baby).

Just my experience. Hope it helps. Good luck.
You said, "wait until she is 5." Do you mean, "wait until she is 6?"

I, personally, can't imagine holding DS out an extra year. If we did, we would homeschool kinder and he would enter 1st grade "on time."
post #5 of 26
I woudn't base your decision on what others have done. If you feel she is ready, send her. If you don't, keep her home.

Look at her peers that will be entering K.

L.
post #6 of 26
We have a DS with a late July Birthday. We delayed his kindegarten entrance a year. He was very ready academically, but not emotionally.

If we had sent him off before he was ready I may have regretted it and been really hard on myself for doing so, but I will never regret having given him that extra year.

I also agree that you should do what you feel is best.

Trust your instincts.
post #7 of 26
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Originally Posted by Leatherette
I woudn't base your decision on what others have done. If you feel she is ready, send her. If you don't, keep her home.

Look at her peers that will be entering K.

L.

Ditto. You need to base it on her.
I have an August bday...went to K when I was barely 5. Graduated 2nd in my class when I graduated HS. Not bragging, but my point is, going to school early didn't affect me negatively.

It needs to be based on her, and so each of your children 'could' be different.

Tammy
post #8 of 26
Here the cuttoff is september 1. My sister and I both had september birthdays- I was the youngest always, she was the oldest- they did different things with the two of us. It worked for both of us

Decide each child individually.

-Angela
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by Leatherette
I woudn't base your decision on what others have done. If you feel she is ready, send her. If you don't, keep her home.

Look at her peers that will be entering K.

L.
ITA!!

I have an August birthday and I started Kindergarten just after turning 5. Interstingly enough, I had a similar dilemma with my oldest DD who's birthday is in early December, due to the cutoff date that the schools use here. Because of a fairly traumatic summer when she was almost 5, I decided to put her in another year of preschool rather than kindergarten. She's been almost a year older than many of her classmates ever since. Now she's in a private school that's very flexible/ tuned into the children's needs, and she was recently moved into a class of 6-8th graders. According to "grade level" she's still in 5th grade, but she's doing 6th grade work, and she's older than one of the 6th grade girls!

What you do for kindergarten isn't going to affect her for the rest of her life- I suggest making the decision for each child when he or she turns 5.
post #10 of 26
Hi Lisa,

I have three dds - all with summer birthdays. Dd2 is end of August (August 31st is our cutoff here).

Dd1 turned 5 end of July and started on time that September. She went to an alternative choice school in our public district. All they offer is full day kindergarten. It was HARD for her the first three or four months, even though academically she was fine. The other girl who also had a hard time also had a July birthday.

Dd2 turned 5 end of August and started on time that September (a week after her birthday). She also went to the same alternative school, full day kindergarten. She was absolutely fine. No issues, no sadness, no tiredness. One of the school employees told me she was the most ready for kindergarten kid she'd seen in ten years.

So I think that in general, if they make the cutoff and you don't have any special reasons to suspect they can't do it, send them on time. If they don't make the cutoff then don't test them in. I know your dd makes the cutoff. I'd send her. Did she do pre-K last year?
post #11 of 26
i would go with what you feel she is ready for. my b-day is sept 26, my dad fought the school to get me into kindergarten at 4, soon to be 5. i could already read and he didn't want me to wait another year. i never had any problems.

as for setting a precedence, i would take each child as an individual. i wouldn't send them all at 4 or all at 5, just follow your heart as to their readiness! you know them best!
post #12 of 26
Thread Starter 
We have pretty much just let her go free and have not "taught" her anything. We have taught her what she seeks. A bit of "unschooling" for a little one. She is very intelligent and has learned a lot, but reading is the biggest worry that I have because it's not something we've done. Everything else, she's fine on but that's pretty big.

It's a pretty free-flowing private school but there is a big difference in academics between pre-K and K. My best hope is that they recommend her to be in the pre-K/K class. There's only one of them. Then, by the end of the year, if she's ready to move forward to 1st grade she can.

Until the last few months, we planned on Waldorf homeschooling, which is why there was not an emphasis on reading early. But with trying to work from home, I realize that I will not be able to do as well with homeschooling as I would like. This school is an amazing combination of a lot of philosophies and I am very glad it's near us.

Thank you for all your time and advice. I look forward to seeing what happens.

Blessings~
Lisa
post #13 of 26
As far as reading goes I think it will all fall into place.....

We are big readers in our home and have always, always read to them, but never put pressure on them to learn on their own when they were little. It's amazing how it just happens if you follow their cues. Most children who are read to a lot have no trouble taking off on their own when they are ready.
post #14 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thanks! That's the reason we haven't been pushing her to read. We read to her a lot and she also has learned to recognize letters and numbers on her own.

I had friends growing up that were over a year younger than everyone else and did fine, for the most part.

I just don't want her thrown into something she's not ready for. She has her 1/2 day session coming up next week and we will see what they say also.

Again, thanks!
Lisa
post #15 of 26
My older dd has the same bd as your dd (8/29) and my younger dd's bd is in Sept. We started both of them just as they were about to turn 5. My bd is also in Sept. and I was started at the same age. I would second the thought that it is very individual and the younger kids do not invariably struggle, as the principal at dds' school tried to convince me.

My older dd is currently in second grade and is working at grade level in some areas and up to 6 grade levels beyond her current grade in others. She and one other girl in her class are very obviously at the top of the class. Both of them have summer birthdays. My younger dd is 12 months or more younger than some of her classmates (a few were held out the extra year). While she is not the "top kid" in the class, she is definitely in the top 1/4 of the class academically. I would anticipate seeing the same pattern that I saw with her older sister as they seem to be pretty developmentally on par -- each year her age has mattered less and less. Her ability is eventually what made the difference.

There has been no social misfit related to them being the youngest either. My little one is a social butterfly and has many friends. She is shorter than the other kids, but she is just destined to be short, poor kiddo! My older dd has some wiring differences and does much better with older children (like 3-5 years older or more). She's not getting that in her current class, but she also wouldn't be getting that if she were grouped with even younger children.

Please do read this article and this publication. I hope that one of them has some info that you find helpful. I struggled with this decision, too, and, although we are still in the earlier stages of seeing how it has worked, I am absolutely convinced that it was the right thing for my girls to not wait an extra year. When I look at both of them and imagine them with kids in the younger grade, it just seems like such a huge misfit.
post #16 of 26
I put my DD who was 5 on September 30, the cut-off date for our school district, into kindergarten on time. The kindergarten was a non-academic Waldorf inspired one that, while they did introduce literacy and math concepts, they didn't teach them formally. She came from non academic traditional Waldorf pre K/K, and the extent of her academics was writting her name. My DD was one of the smallest and definitely one of the "youngest" , in the fact she was the baby in their games and was always a follower, academically she was probably average for the class. By halfway through the year both her teacher (Waldorf trained) and I felt she would benefit from doing an extra year in kindergarten rather than moving on to 1st grade, we were both going on intutiition here because she could have coped both socially and academically. We made the right decision. I also don't think I made the wrong decision putting her in kindergarten at 4 years old because it was not academic, she was under no pressure to read.

But I do think the decision must be made based on your child, the type of kindergarten and the teacher. It is not an easy one to make, and, honestly there is no right answer.
post #17 of 26
love this thread. My dd is a late summer birthday and made the cut-off by less than a month. I have a little of the un-school bent and never "pushed" learning. Her preschool was very laid back as well. dd only went 2 days/week (we had the option of 1,2 or 3 4hr days).
dd has never been acdemically advanced and has a pattern of being behind and then catching up. I sent her to K on schedule. It seems that everything has been a struggle. I thought that with K being a 1/2day program she would be able to handle it. Now I'm really at a loss. dd doesn't want to not advance with her friends (though we just moved her so it's not like she went to preschool with any of them).
dd is a hard one to motivate and if left to her own she does amazing stuff. I feel awful putting pressure on dd to do the work or be held back.
The teacher meeting is next month and I can't wait. So far the teacher thinks dd is on track.
post #18 of 26
ChristaN
Great links. Gave me a lot to think over!
post #19 of 26
My kids have winter b-days, so there was not an issue with them this way. But I did want to chime in and say that in my community there is a strong tendency "redshirt" summer birthdays. That is, to keep them back in preschool another year. It really shows in later years that some of these kids are ready to learn and they are bigger as well. They have tended to end up as class leaders.
post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
I second the "great links." It does give me a lot to think over in regards to what will work best for DD1 and the other 2 following her.

And thanks to everyone for you wonderful insights.

Blessings~
Lisa
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