Originally Posted by KittyKat
Gee... if it's SOOOO dangerous to use vaginally, I guess I'm really screwing up by swallowing the darn things. They're INTENDED to be taken ORALLY, and are thus subject to all the safety measures and scrutiny anything that is intended for human consumption are subject to!
Geesh, do you make your partner "sterilize" his "parts" before you let him near you?
I think you are just a little bit over reacting.
Take a nice, sterile, "approved for pregnancy" CHILL PILL please.
I hope noone on here is under the impression that things approved for human consumption are sterile. Because they are not. It's much safer to take something not sterile orally vs. vaginally. Any medications to be approved for vaginal use go under very different standards than for oral use. Perhaps there is a misunderstanding about that on here. I think it is very reasonable to say to not medicate yourself with anything, vaginally, while pregnant, unless it was specifically made for that use. Does anyone make a brand of EPO that is approved for vaginal use? That might be something useful for people on here to know. People on this thread were discussing using them vaginally, and that's what I am reacting to. Of course, there are natural remedies that are bad to take during pregnancy orally too..
I'm not saying everything needs to be sterile to go into the vagina- I mean, duh. I"m a big proponent of helping along the healthy bacteria! And hopefully your partner shares the healthy bacteria. If I found out, however, say, if I was GBS negative and he was positive.. you better believe I"d take precautions to prevent that transfer. I don't think any of us want to introduce any unwanted yeast, fungus, or bacteria into the vagina when pregnant.
My other point is that, unless there is some sort of a real problem, your baby is at term when your body decides it's time for it to be born. Saying anything 36 weeks on- when we *know* our due dates are often incorrectly assigned- is as bad as saying every woman who goes to 41 weeks has a postdate baby. Nighten, you're correct when my beef here is trying to "help along" the process when it does not *need* to be "helped along". It's very different if you're going postdate and have to deal with the Evil Pressure that is the Postdate C/S or loss of homebirth, or you have a history of a specific problem. But a lot of the negative experiences people have with standard OB care is that they are pressured to have interventions, even mild ones, even *tests*, of any kind for no reason- this is the same thing. If you're all for that, fine. It's the inconsistency of saying in one case it's unthinkable, and in the other case, it's all happy and flowers because someone's midwife said so.
I know that hospitals and OBs consider labor starting after 36 weeks (well, mine says 37) as "term". But when has anyone on here listened to them
, when they say the same thing about "postterm" being only 41 weeks? If you're due date is off by two weeks, which can certainly happen, you might be dosing yourself with a medication, perhaps in your vagina, when you are only really 34 weeks. My point- why? Do you not think your body is capable of preparing it's own cervix? Of course, the answer in some cases is- heck no, and it does need help. Assuming you need this for no reason is just as bad as deciding your need your membranes stripped for no reason. It's the "no reason" part that bugs me, and the assumption that EPO is "natural" and not "man-made" that makes it safer bugs me (You think EPO pills grow on trees like that??
The addition of "natural" supplements not being monitored adds a further complication- the dose in them could be very different, they could have impurities, etc. You don't know because they don't have to be tested. I think it's important to spread information about that if people don't know. At least "man-made" medications are tested, you know the dose, and you know exactly what is in them. It would be wonderful and helpful for all of us if consumer reports would dedicate an issue to pregnancy, and would test some herbal medications and issues like this one, as they've done with other issues in the past. They have found very mixed results looking at other herbal supplements, including issues such as mercury contamination ("natural" calcium) and very inconsistent dosing, and also did a wonderful and positive study on fish oil suppliments. They should do more stuff like that. -j
ps: re: eggplant parm. Sounds wonderful. For eating. Not putting in the vagina. You see my point? Do people usually eat evening primrose seeds? Nope. So why would one make a concentrated form of them and put it in your vagina and assume it is safe, when it's not even a generally recognized as safe food?
p.p.s. do tell me that they say the same thing about cadbury mini-eggs. Because if that's true, I'm going into labor to-morrow.