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post #21 of 38
I am in Nebraska.

I suspect that my 8 year old had mumps about a month ago, he had 2 doses. But we never took him in, because there was no need.

I wonder what excuse they will come up with for mumps in the vaccinated.
post #22 of 38
From the AOL homepage article:
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Of the 245 patients this year, at least 66 percent had had the recommended two-shot vaccination, while 14 percent had received one dose, the Public Health Department said.

"The vaccine is working," Quinlisk said. "The vaccine certainly was made to cover this particular strain, because it's a fairly common strain of mumps." Quinlisk said the vaccine overall is considered about 95 percent effective.
I don't get it-how can they say that the vaccine is 95% effective in one paragraph and that 66% of those that got sick had the full course of vaccination? Are the 161.7 (66%of 245) people the 5% of the whole vaccinated population?

Am I remembering wrong when I think that mumps is a fairly mild disease? I don't remember ever worrying about that one.
post #23 of 38
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by monkaha
I don't get it-how can they say that the vaccine is 95% effective in one paragraph and that 66% of those that got sick had the full course of vaccination?
From the CDC Pink Book:

Immunogenicity and Vaccine Efficacy
Mumps vaccine produces an inapparent, or mild, noncommunicable infection. More than 97% of recipients of a single dose develop measurable antibody. Seroconversion rates are similar for single antigen mumps vaccine, MMR, and MMRV. Clinical efficacy has been estimated to be 95% (range, 90%–97%). The duration of vaccine-induced immunity is believed to be greater than 25 years, and is probably lifelong in most vaccine recipients.



The second dose of MMR is not a booster, so it's not a "full course" per se. The only reason why children are getting two doses of mumps is because almost every state requires two (2) doses of measles and the CDC recommends the second dose MMR instead of monovalent measles in order to get the few percent who are not immune after the first dose. The second dose is not administered in order to boost immunity.

The CDC touts that one dose of mumps should "does it" --- but apparently it doesn't.
post #24 of 38
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Health experts say mumps can lead to deafness, meningitis, a swelling of the testicles or ovaries and, rarely, death.
I just did a search on MAINSTREAM web md type sites and the treatment is listed as "self care at home" by drinking lots of water and taking pain reliever. Sounds like a real killer.
post #25 of 38
Thread Starter 
UPDATE: 14 persons with clinically compatible symptoms were being investigated in three neighboring states.

Illinois: 11
Nebraska: 2
Minnesota: 1

Just an FYI for everyone: The average number of mumps cases reported each year in the U.S.: 265

The CDC stated on 3/30/06: Despite control efforts and a highly vaccinated population, this epidemic has spread across Iowa and potentially to neighboring states. Ongoing investigations will focus on identifying actual vaccine coverage on college campuses, potential modes of mumps transmission, and the effectiveness of 1 or 2 doses of MMR.
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post #26 of 38
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by cravenab00
I am in Nebraska.

I suspect that my 8 year old had mumps about a month ago, he had 2 doses. But we never took him in, because there was no need.
I remember your post describing the symptoms. It certainly sounded like mumps.

The CDC said the first "Iowa cases" started reporting in December, so it's very likely.

Your post beg the question: How many cases are going unreported?
post #27 of 38
This is fascinating. It was on the news last night out here (CA), but I didn't pay much attention as I knew I could get more accurate info here! I'm curious though how far across the country it will go ... almost like a "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego" game. My boys both have had at least one MMR (I don't remember the timing of the second so I'm not sure if they got that one before we stopped vax'ing), but I wouldn't mind them getting exposed to natural mumps, though with the baby coming, maybe it would be better if it doesn't make it to the west coast.

LI - I love the quote about the vax working!
post #28 of 38
Here are my notes on mumps. I got these from reading numerious websites and a book and keeping notes:


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Mumps
Type: Viral (myxo) infections which affects the parotid glands (saliva glands). The virus can also effect other organs/glands in the body.

Incubation period: 12 to 24 days. Once symptoms appears it clears up in about 10-12 days.

Symptoms:
Fever, Chills, Headache. Two days later:
Swelling of the parotid glads which are located near the jar. Both sides can get swollen but typically only one side is swollen at a time. The swelling gives the impression of a chipmunk with food in its mouth
Dry mouth, difficulty swallowing
In older males: possible infection in the testicles characterized by pain and swelling in the testicles. (orchitis)


Risk facts of developing severe illness:

Possible complications:
Orchitis in older males (inflammations of testicles)- (20-50% of post-pubertal males)
Oophorits (Inflammation of ovaries in women (5%)
Pancreatitis- swelling of the pancreases (2-5%)
Deafness which often resolves itself. (1 in 20,000 cases)
Meningitis

Fatality rates: 1 to 3 in 10,000 cases

Mode of transmission: Through saliva partials. Is the least contagious of the 5 major childhood illnesses. Requires close contact to spread. However, other sources claim it is highly contagious.
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Treatments:

Stay well hydrated. Note it will be painful to swallow

Serve bland soft foods such as massed bananas, mashed potatoes, jello-o, etc.

Serve moist food. The glands may not produce adequate saliva for chewing.

Avoid drinks that are sour or acidic- (like orange juice). Avoid things that promote saliva productions.

Acupressure: using the fingers gently apply pressure to the area around the jawbone and ear while breathing deep. Try this for two minutes to help with painful glands.

Apply a paste of dry ginger power and water to the visibly swollen areas.

Apply heat or cold to swollen areas. Apply for 15 min or less

For orchitis: support the testicals with tight fitting underpants, cotton, or a sports support cup. Apply warm or cold compresses depending on what feels better.

Herbs/homeopathic:
See attachment or visit http://www.truestarhealth.com/Notes/2245007.html
I'm not scared of the mumps! I'm sure it can be uncomfortable though when eating.
post #29 of 38
I should have known people would already be discussing this!

Well, my main question was the numbers they were throwing around in the article:

Of the 245 patients this year, at least 66 percent had had the recommended two-shot vaccination, while 14 percent had received one dose, the Public Health Department said.

"The vaccine is working," Quinlisk said. "The vaccine certainly was made to cover this particular strain, because it's a fairly common strain of mumps." Quinlisk said the vaccine overall is considered about 95 percent effective.


Now that just doesn't make sense! So 80% of the patients had some form of the vaccination? And they are claiming it is working? Sounds like you are much better off without!

"He had all the shots and everything. You don't think you're going to get the mumps after you've been inoculated," said Will's father, Wayne Hean.

It's true, that's what they want you to believe. They don't want you to think and research and do the math for yourself!

I had the mumps when I was a kid, I doubt I was vaccinated for it. It really stunk I remember. There is a photo of me in bed, my neck swollen up to the diameter of my head. I was 4, and really mad at my mom for taking it!

in any case, the whole article seemed a bit propaganda-like, especially with it being the "kindergarten roundup" season. (made me sick to my stomach to see that sign on my road last week) There are free vaccination clinics all over the place now so the parents can get their kids registered. Just seems like perfect timing.
post #30 of 38
I've been keeping up on this too. : The last news piece I read was so cut and paste:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/heal...p?newsid=40766

They obviously ran out of words on the last line:

"How can I protect myself from catching mumps? :

There is a vaccine. "

:
post #31 of 38
Mumps is very deadly you know. Much more deadly than the bird flu The world is doomed
post #32 of 38
i'm all ok reading about the different complications and all until i get to meningitis.

my kid had it before. it was awful.

is he more susceptible to this side effect from mumps, because of his history?
post #33 of 38
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i'm all ok reading about the different complications and all until i get to meningitis.
It probably doesn't happen very often, eh? I didn't find how common it happens. Has anyone else?

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is he more susceptible to this side effect from mumps, because of his history
humm. I don't know. I want to say no, but I really don't know. I read a bit on this site: http://www.meningitis.org/ Lots of information- there are many types of meningitis. maybe a good search on that site will answer you question.

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Meningitis is usually bacterial or viral, and occasionally is due to fungal infections, although almost any microbe can cause it.

Viral meningitis can be very unpleasant but it is almost never life threatening and most people quickly make a full recovery.

Bacterial meningitis is more serious and can be caused by a range of different bacteria, although most cases in the UK and Ireland are caused by meningococcal bacteria.
Now I'm curious what type of men. people will mumps can get as a complication.
post #34 of 38
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sungold17
Now I'm curious what type of men. people will mumps can get as a complication.

It would be viral meningitis.

Just an FYI: a person can also contract "mumps meningitis" as a result of MMR vaccination. In the 90's Japan actually withdrew the MMR for a while because of the high incidence of meninigitis cases resulting from the vax.
post #35 of 38
are you sure it would be viral? viral meningitis is much less scary than what we went through...i would rest easier knowing for sure that it was viral meningitis as the potential complication for mumps.

i know mumps are caused by a virus, but i don't assume that the meningitis would be viral, mostly because i have never really researched mumps.

( LI, I hope you aren't irritated by my asking for verification. I just would like to be sure.)
post #36 of 38
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mimi21
are you sure it would be viral? viral meningitis is much less scary than what we went through...i would rest easier knowing for sure that it was viral meningitis as the potential complication for mumps.

i know mumps are caused by a virus, but i don't assume that the meningitis would be viral, mostly because i have never really researched mumps.

( LI, I hope you aren't irritated by my asking for verification. I just would like to be sure.)

Irritated? Of course not! Actually, I'm glad you asked for verification. It gives me an excuse to post the CDC Pink Book page on mumps


http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/mumps.pdf

Pathogenesis
The virus is acquired by respiratory droplets. It replicates in the nasopharynx and regional lymph nodes. After 12–25 days a viremia occurs, which lasts from 3 to 5 days. During the viremia, the virus spreads to multiple tissues, including the meninges, and glands such as the salivary, pancreas, testes, and ovaries. Inflammation in infected tissues leads to characteristic symptoms of parotitis and aseptic meningitis.


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Aseptic meningitis is viral meningitis.
Parotitis is mumps.
post #37 of 38
thank you!
post #38 of 38
sounds like the latest scare tactic to drum up business for the establishment. It's too bad that it's at the expence of our nations children.
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