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post #21 of 38
Originally posted by glh
I agree about Raymond, I've thought the same thing. I think the show is funny, but sometimes it seems like all those two ever do is fight and insult each other. The wife especially seems to think Raymond is a total idiot. Is that why it's funny? Hmm-maybe I should think about why I watch it. I don't watch Friends but from what I've read here it seems like they did make a mistake in that story line.
GLH! I completely agree! I used to love this show, and sometimes it is funny. Lately, though, when I see it, I see the nagging harpy, the dopey, insensitive, sex starved husband, the chauvanist father, the nosey, overbearing mother, and the entire show is just insult after insult after insult. And I just don't find it amusing anymore...
post #22 of 38
I would agree that these shows aren't exactly realistic, nor do people necessarily expect them to be. After all, the "Friends" live in a NY never touched by 9/11. On the other hand, the "Friends" also live in a NY where it seems you only see White people, where mariginally employed 20/30 y.o's live in $2000+ a month apartments, and where no one does anything but hang out in coffee houses and date all the time. I know it's not supposed to be the "real world," but some of this stuff does bother me. (Although I heard somewhere that they will be getting a Black "Friend" sometime this season?)

For the moment, I am enjoying friends, although I have to say that Rachel and Ross are two of my least favorite characters.
post #23 of 38
OK, I've just been lurking, but I must say I don't want a black "Friend". I mean, it's been 8/9 years, why now? That would mess up the shows dynamic, IMO.
post #24 of 38
I think it would be silly to bring in a full time new person. But personally, they still should have one of their "acquantince" friends be black.
I mean, they have guest stars all the time, how come none of these have been people of color?

Same with Will and Grace, don't they have any friends that are black?

Hopefully there have been guests on these shows and I just happened to miss that episode.

As far as the OP, I have been mad about the whole baby issue. I think that a lot of stupid girls watch that show and get the idea that it's okay to set the baby down in the other room and go on with your life as if she wasn't there. If you are going to have a show like that, I believe you should have a little responsibility for the message that you put out. Children should be seen, heard and loved!

post #25 of 38
T Will & Grace (used to be my fave show) has had plenty shades of brown ppl on it. In major roles. The End.
post #26 of 38
I agree with most of you ... I've been quite annoyed at how the baby is not held and how Rachel is now using formula. And there was one more annoying thing: a couple of weeks ago she said to her coworker (who called her maternity leave a vacation)something like, "You call getting your nipples sucked sore for three months a vacation?" While I realize that some women do get sore nipples I think saying that on TV sends a negative message about breastfeeding and might discourage some women from trying.

Nevertheless, I keep watching ... (Rachel was pregnant at the same time I was so I enjoyed watching their treatment of the whole pregnancy and birth, even though it was ridiculously medicalized.)
post #27 of 38
Originally posted by Chaka Falls
T Will & Grace (used to be my fave show) has had plenty shades of brown ppl on it. In major roles. The End.
Now that I think about it, Rosario is a major character, but I can't think of any more.
Will's boss (that famous tap dancer played him and now I can't remember his name! He was in White NIghts, someone help me!) But I haven't seen him on in a while.

Thanks for the correction Chaka Falls

post #28 of 38
I'll say that the item I saw about a Black "Friend" was a passing tagline, and there was no story. So given the media's tendency to exaggerate certain things, it may be that the Black "Friend" is going to be someone's love interest, boss, neighbor, something like that. A supporting player. I don't think they're going to add to the "Friends," although I think that the show should call it quits this year. I don't see how many seasons this can go on.
post #29 of 38
Originally posted by jeanvanzyl
Seriously, though, about the formula in the fridge... I think it would have been so much funnier if it *had* been EBM. DIdn't Joey drink it or something? (I didn't see it, my sister told me about it, and I can't remember exactly what she said).
while I don't watch Friends, I can tell you that Mad About You has already done it - I forget the names of the characters, but I do recall seeing one episode where dude (Paul?) wanted to taste his wife's breastmilk, but was squeamish about it and vacilated about doing so throughout the episode. At the very end, dude's brother, who was looking for milk for his cereal, poured the EBM on his cereal and proceded to eat it, to dude's shock. The end.
post #30 of 38
Friends already did all the EBM jokes back when Ross' first child was a baby. Remember that episode, where Carol left EBM bottles with them while he kept the baby?

And I was thrilled Rachel had a natural breech birth. That just rocked. I had a breech homebirth and anytime someone on t.v. says "breech" it is usually a major medical ordeal that ends up killing the mother or needing a c-section. It is ridiculously sensationalized. Friends just wrote into the story like it was no big deal.

I have to admit Friends is my favorite couch potato show. If I want mindless fluff, I want friends!

But I am so OVER RACHEL AND ROSS. I wanted them to get together so bad at the start of this season and all I can say now is "you two deserve each other!".

At this point Phoebe is the only one getting the good lines, or the interesting plots IMO. I'm curious to find out why they wrote this new guy out of the show tonight. I wonder who they are going to pair her up with? I always hoped she would wind up with Joey....

post #31 of 38
I missed friends tonight, What Happend? Did anyone see Will ang Grace?
post #32 of 38
Well, I will admit that Friends can still make me laugh at times. Will and Grace I've never cared for that much. I have a couple close gay male friends--well, really only one that I'm close to now--but he agrees with me that the show can be demeaning which is why he doesn't watch it. I know that most will disagree with me, but these are just my feelings (and my friend's). Plus Jack and Karen both just get on my nerves after awhile. Yes, we're insensitive users, but you must love us. I'd have kicked them to the curb long ago. I do love Rosario

The mother in Raymond does things that remind me eerily of my own mother (except for the cooking and cleaning parts), which is why I still am drawn to that show at times.
post #33 of 38
I like Friends...but I only see the reruns on Fox. I've never followed a season while it's airing for the first time. Though I have seen episodes and jumped up and screamed when Joey was on one knee and Rachel said yes...my son nearly peed his pants in shock.

So maybe I'll think this season is pathetic when I see it next year. I'm enjoying the reruns, though. I don't think the show would be entertaining for me if they centered it so much around the baby. And I think Rachel is becoming more mature and Monica is on her way to complete psychosis. Can they make her weirder? Seriously.

My uncle who lives (barely) in New York says he can't watch the show. Mostly because he knows they can't afford those apartments. That makes me think...why is the girls' apartment so much bigger than the guys'? Are there really apartment buildings with such imbalance? Hmm...

And Raymond. Holy crap I love that show. It's such an exaggeration...you're not meant to take it seriously. I think my husband dreams of one day becoming Frank. Though I know he doesn't want me to turn into Marie and I also know he's just not funny like Frank is.

Nobody tell him that, though. Thanks.
post #34 of 38
i too heard the formula reference

what bugs me most about friends is the language! it doesnt bother me personally, but my dd is usually around given how early the show is on and i dont appreciate it for her sake

no one seems ot have a clue what to do with chandler & monica. most of the stuff is ross/rachel/joey and when they do try c/m it strikes me as being weak (esp if you see old episodes where chandler used to have snappier lines)
post #35 of 38
Originally posted by Umm Zaid
. Lately, though, when I see it, I see the nagging harpy, the dopey, insensitive, sex starved husband, the chauvanist father, the nosey, overbearing mother, and the entire show is just insult after insult after insult. And I just don't find it amusing anymore...

Oh, I thought this was a description of Friends. Those stock characters: nagging harpy--Monica, dopey husband--Chandler, chauvinist father--Ross, overbearing mother--Rachael. Add in kooky neighbors--Phoebe and Joey, you've got Friends. :LOL

(I still like it tho, Friends that is. Hate Raymond.)
post #36 of 38
Lately Friends does not appeal to me because the habit of casting ONLY skinny, skinny women with protruding bones is bad for my body image and self esteem. (There are healthy skinny women and healthy round women but this show does NOT show a healthy balance.) Not healthy role models I want for my daughter either. When I watch Friends I feel fat and inferior. A couple years ago there was a big outcry when there were billboards for Friends with photos of just the women and the words "Cute Anorexic Chicks."

This is also true of many other shows. Courtney Thorne-Smith (now on a sitcom with Jim Belushi) was once quoted as saying she left Ally McBeal (another show where I loved the writing, hated how it made me feel fat) because the working environment was not healthy for HER body image. If a woman with that beautiful a body feels bad then we are all at risk.

re: American idol: am I to believe that the Rubenesque goddess Frenchie was REALLY fired because of posing nude when the slimmer Nikki in the first season was a stripper and nobody cared? Yeah, and I have a bridge to sell........
post #37 of 38
I think the weirdest thing was that early in that episode they had Joey and Ross agreeing about how now that they had seen Rachel pumping they were both over feeling attracted to her at all. (THANKS! Breastfeeding women really needed that.) Then later in the show they are talking about formula in the fridge. It's like they want to get in every baby related joke they can think of whether it makes a shred of sense or not.
post #38 of 38
Will's boss (from White Nights) is Gregory Hynes.

I watched Friends on the night before Valentines. Something to do while doing my 3 kids school valentine stuff (totally different rant, that!), and dd who is 8 was there too. Chandler made a comment "fried chicken is fricken", which she has taken to saying. She also has my 2yo doing it too. The one time I watch it with her around and this happens.:
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