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post #1 of 8
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My DD is in fourth grade at our neighborhood elementary school, where she has been academically successful and enjoys a circle of really kind friends.

We have an option for sixth grade: Keep her at the elementary school, where there is one sixth grade class, or send her to the local middle school, which serves some 600 6th-, 7th- and 8th-grade students.

At the middle school, there are honors classes, electives, music every day if they choose, PE every day, art. In sixth grade there, they change classes three times a day. At the elementary school, it's one teacher, one classroom, music and PE twice a week, minimal art. The rumor among parents who've gone before me is that the "less academic kids stay behind" at the elementary school. The other thing every parent has said is, "Our decision was based a lot on where my kid's friends were going."

My DD would be 10 years old when she starts sixth grade. She's a September birthday in an area with a Dec 2 cutoff and lots of fall-birthday kids who started kindergarten at 5 instead of 4, so she's young. She's an A student, but not in the accelerated program. She's naturally reserved, and has gained confidence by being in a familiar setting since first grade. She would be most comfortable staying at the elementary school, but not necessarily most challenged.

In my heart, I want to keep her young and close and protected for as long as possible, and middle school scares me. We are in an upper-middle-income suburban area where already we walk a slightly different path simply because we're a little crunchy and we subscribe to the Hold On To Your Kids approach (book by Gordon Neufeld). My DDs enjoy their friends, but their souls are fed at home and, outside of seeing a few nice friends for playdates maybe once a week, they spend most of their time with each other and DH and I--family time. Most of the children in our community are involved in LOADS of peer-based activities and are encouraged to socialize as much as possible. Being well-liked and loaded with friends is highly valued in this community and kids are stacked up with playdates in a way that seems very socially competitive. For this reason, middle school--with its intensely peer-oriented student body and all that striving to conform--feels like something we're not ready to expose our DDs to any sooner than we must.

However, the academic program at the middle school sounds superior, and parents I know who have sent their sixth graders to middle school have had no complaints. The music program in the middle school is said to be terrific, and my DD is very into violin, so that's enticing as well. Also, there is an argument for sending her in sixth because it's like "middle school lite"--the sixth graders are kept separate from the 7th and 8th graders for most of the day and they switch classes only 3 times instead of 7 (like they do in 7th). Supposedly it gives sixth graders a chance to get used to the middle school experience, the homework, etc.

It's a big topic among big DD's friends' parents right now, too--we all are on the fence about what decision we'll be making this time next year (it's registration time). I need to do more research, but I wondered if any of you have faced a similar situation? I'm eager for any insight you might have. (I'm going to cross post this in Preteens and Teens.)
post #2 of 8
I guess my question is, what does your dd want?

Where I grew up middle school was 7-9 so when we moved here and found out it was 6-8 I though that was so strange. My gut tells me to keep her in the elementary school but I do not know your dd and her needs. My gut is based on my children.

I'm sorry I was not much help at all. Good luck with your decision.
post #3 of 8
Our local school has grades 1-4 then middle is 5-8(maybe 9 too) and then high school. I think at this point your dd will be choosing based on what her friends are doing,and not really base it on the classes/school. It does sound like the new school would be fun.

Personally, I worry about our own local breakdown and having 5th graders with the upper grades.It must work out though if they continue doing it.
post #4 of 8

Elementary is my vote

Personally, I say keep them with the elementary age children. Kids are made to grow up too fast, and they should be allowed to progress at their own speed. I've been personally involved with a middle school that was 4th - 6th grade, and now I'm at one that is 6th - 8th, and what a difference I've seen in the two! The 6th graders that are exposed to the 7th and 8th (especially boys because of the physical difference!) are in a strange place, competing with the older children.

I teach music to 6th graders everyday, and yes, there are more opportunities to them in the middle school. However, their mental and psychological health is more important, as is their budding little personalities, and relational skills, and trying to act "cool" an grown up like the older ones is an influence that I am sad to see these little guys experience. The 6th grade girls who are in school with the older kids talk about wearing bras to make their breasts look larger, how to have sex and not get pregnant, etc. Of course, this is all from my experience, only. (With regards to music lessons, or any other "extra-curricular" activity, you can always take them to private lessons, which will have them so far advanced, much further than from middle school activities alone!)

I say, let them be children, while they are still children. They grow up too fast as it is.
post #5 of 8
Here, middle school is 6-8th grade. No other options exist. I will say that both of my kids that have already been there have absolutely thrived in middle school - and this is a large school. They and their friends have been so done with elementary school by the end of 5th grade that they can't wait to stretch their wings a bit. It has been nothing but positive both academically and socially. One thing to look into would be how your middle school goes about integrating the 6th graders into the school. Ours has two visiting days during the end of 5th grade where they all take the middle school bus and spend the day getting used to middle school without there being any stress of a real school day. Then, in the summer they do another full orientation day to get their schedules, learn where their lockers are and classes are, meet the teachers, ask questions, etc. By the time they actually start school there, they are so excited and feel like they belong already. They also keep the 6th graders pretty much in their own wing of the school so they are not in tons of contact with the older kids that first year. Maybe you could take your dd for a visit? Call and ask for the 6th grade guidance counselor and arrange for a meeting/tour. That may give you and your dd a better idea of what will work best for her.
post #6 of 8
I'd put off middle school as long as possible. Middle school is NOT fun. Kids at the meanest and most difficult age are grouped all together. It's so hard for most of them.
post #7 of 8
I am a middle school teacher. I am opposed to the idea of middle schools!!! I went to a k-8 school and thought it was a great set up. My problem with middle schools is that they take the kids at a very vulnerable time in their life, when I think they should be looking up to mentors, or becoming leaders with younger kids, and separates them. I don't think it is a healthy separation. I have taught high school, too, and I actually think that high school is a kinder world than middle school. In middle school, the kids are acting the way they THINK high schoolers act. It's like some teenybopper movie they saw-- backstabbing friends, boy drama, into clothes, friends, make up, sex, with out the maturity of a high schooler. They seem to be so cruel to their friends, while in high school kids are starting to develope an understanding of loyality, kindness,etc. All we have here are 6-8 middle schools though . If I had a different option, I'd take it.
post #8 of 8
I think you need to talk to your daughter. if you keep her back she may not understand why. even if you tell her one thing (that you want to keep her youthfull, etc) she may not think you actually mean that. this could be especially true if she's heard the rumors that only the non-academic kids stay behind.

honestly, I'd go with the middle school option. middle school is hard enough, but it sounds like this 6th grade program is a step into middle school. I'm just wondering what 7th grade might be like for her, since she'll have to jump into middle school at full force. I think from an educational perspective middle school lite is a good option. The middle school I went to changed over to the six grade as middle school light after I had went on to high school. It seemed to work well. also, I don't think it matters if kids are at elementary school or middle school because there is always going to be a population of kids who are just cruel to others. I had a horrible 5th grade year in elementary school, and sixth grade middle school was a decent start over. it allowed me to meet other kids who were dorky like me...lol.

just thought I'd add a different opinion on the subject.
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