Non-vaxers, do you believe in the theory behind vaccines? - Page 3

[myorganicbabies]

Originally Posted by Attached Mama

i think that in some situations they are a good thing - like maybe in an epidemic. but i dont' think they should ever be forced! i think they have been effective in getting rid of certain diseases like polio.

I was under the impression that vaccines weren't the cause of the eradication of polio. Education and sanitation were.
I also was under the impression that any cases of polio in the past 50 years was from the vaccine itself.
Are the side effects and damage to the immune system worth introducing this vaccine into a normally healthy immune system, especially when less than 1% of people(unvaccinated people,and otherwise healthy people) who contract polio actually get paralytic polio, and fewer even remain paralytic. Not to mention that many people who may even contract it may not be able to tell the difference between being sick with polio or being sick with the flu! Oh yes and vaccines can't even offer or garantee 100% safety or effectiveness.
I would still have to consider the vaccination, even in an epidemic, moreso do to the dangerous additives in vaccines that either destroy nerve cells or surpress and damage(sometimes permenantly) the immune system, etc etc

[myorganicbabies]

off the subject

Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara

Not exactly.
on antibodies.

Well, apart from the fact that breast milk tastes revolting,

I tasted mine and it was pretty good, just a little sweet

[myorganicbabies]

Momtezuma Tuatara,
I know i am possibly being a little rude but........

I am in Awe of your knowledge, you are an inspiration. I look forward to reading your posts.

thank you for the knowledge,
Myorganicbabies

[bygones75]

I read again and again in this forum that a healthy, well-nourished body is one that can overcome illness and doesn't need vaccines. Agreed. But here's my problem: the concept of a well-nourished body is quite different depending on who you're speaking with/reading/etc. For the most part, I eat a natural, whole foods, vegetarian diet. But there are certainly a wide range of opinion even within that spectrum.

What have you read that has helped you determine how to maintain optimal nourishment? Or who has influenced your concept of nutrition/health?

This is a question for anybody. I think I've read faaaar too many books on health lately. It just leaves me feeling torn.

Suz

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by bygones75

What have you read that has helped you determine how to maintain optimal nourishment? Or who has influenced your concept of nutrition/health?

Have you seen the nutrition/immunology thread? It's on page 1.

[MyLittleWonders]

My problem with letting them get the jab who feel they must get the jab/need to get the jab (in relation to what MT said) is that now we are dealing, as a society, with a whole slew of issues, which imo, stem at least in part from these jabs. The number of neurologic and autoimmune problems and disorders have skyrocketed. Teachers are dealing with an astronomical number of students with some form of attention disorder or other behavioral issue (first hand account here - I used to teach and dh does). So though I agree with MT that the jab seems to keep us in a little bit of a better place than the Middle Ages practice of killing those who stayed healthy (ie the Jews), I am not comfortable with the alternative we have created. (Not that I think there's an easy answer out there.)

[~member~]

Originally Posted by MyLittleWonders

My problem with letting them get the jab who feel they must get the jab/need to get the jab (in relation to what MT said) is that now we are dealing, as a society, with a whole slew of issues, which imo, stem at least in part from these jabs. The number of neurologic and autoimmune problems and disorders have skyrocketed. Teachers are dealing with an astronomical number of students with some form of attention disorder or other behavioral issue (first hand account here - I used to teach and dh does). So though I agree with MT that the jab seems to keep us in a little bit of a better place than the Middle Ages practice of killing those who stayed healthy (ie the Jews), I am not comfortable with the alternative we have created. (Not that I think there's an easy answer out there.)

: ITA. I am leaning more and more to the side that is anti-vax and am thinking I should be promoting the eradication of vaccines, rather than the eradication of disease.

I mean, How many times have I, myself, posted that there will never be an end to disease or a disease-free population?
I so need to wake up and open my eyes!

Sorry, I just get so surprised that my brain would hold onto such false notions, so strongly, kwim?

I mean, it makes sense, because how often do my eyes/brain read :"vaccines are important", "necessary", etc.
Of course my brain is going to keep getting stuck on those tracks.

[bygones75]

Originally Posted by LongIsland

Have you seen the nutrition/immunology thread? It's on page 1.

I haven't, but I will take a look. Thanks!