Originally Posted by LongIsland
From the Foundation's website:Through its support of the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization, the foundation has invested more than $1.5 billion to increase the number of children in developing countries who receive recommended immunizations, encourage the adoption of vaccines that are underused, speed up the introduction of new vaccines, and secure funding for childhood immunization.
dollars spent on the distribution and promotion of immunization. And that's just Bill and Melinda. Our government, along with other countries, also contribute to the distribution and promotion of vaccines in developing countries . . . as well as every pharmaceutical company with a vested interest.
Incidentally, there's no "pat myself on the back" numbers on the amount of money spent on their efforts regarding poor nutrition and breastfeeding. If they're not "advertising" the amount of money on their website, that leads me to believe it's not significant: http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Globa...on/default.htm
OK. $1.5 billion being spent. Obviously, this is not for just one country, or one locale. I assume that the Gates Foundation is thinking of their version of "greatest good for the most number of people with the resources we've got".
I'm going to throw some numbers and paradigms and contexts back.
Newtown Creek Water Pollution Control Plant (WPCP): here is a link to a construction article about it http://newyork.construction.com/feat...408_cover3.asp
This is one
of 14 WPCP's in New York City. We have a resident pop. approximately 8 million strong in the 5 Boroughs. I think it is about 18 million in the greater metropolitan area, which includes parts of New Jersey, Connecticut, and lower Upstate New York. Our resident population swells during a workday with commuters coming in.
Also, it feels like nearly every square inch of Manhattan is paved. Seriously. Central Park is about 850 acres of land, but it is a small part of the city. We have a lot of runoff. If areas are unpaved or roofs have landscaping and plantings to prevent runoff, then the load on a CS (Combined Sewer) is lightened.
So. Newtown Creek is one of the two largest sewage treatment plants in the world. The other one is Wards Island WPCP...funnily enough ALSO in New York City. The other 12 are a good deal smaller. Either Wards Island or Newtown Creek handle probably more than the other 12 combined. (I do not have the capacities in front of me, I am making a more or less educated guess based on my knowledge of the various upgrade projects I've been involved with.)
Now. Newtown Creek is in the final stages of an upgrade that DOUBLED ITS CAPACITY to 710 Million Gallons Per Day (Mgd).
To give you scale -- a typical garden hose turned on strongly will often run about 2.5 gallons per minute. (You want to know how much water you use with yours? Fill a 5 gallon bucket and see how long it takes to fill.)
2.5 gallons x 60 minutes = 150 gallons per hour
150 gallons per hour x 24 hours per day = 3,600 gallons per day.
3,600 gallons per day (gpd) <<<<< 710,000,000 gpd
Run your hose all day long, wasting the water and running up your water allotment bill, and you are taking up a 197,222nd part of what NYC's Newtown Creek WPCP processes in a day.
In addition, it has holding basins to hold water from storms and treat it when the storm stops and capacity becomes available in the plant.
This permits us all to live here without outbreaks of disease, allows there to be industry, allows recreation on the Hudson River and in New York Harbor without feces floating by your boat. It also allows us to be wasteful with our water. We can have toilets that use water to flush (instead of composting toilets). We can let the water run in the shower until it warms up. We can let the water run in the sink while rinsing the dishes. We can use sprinklers (horribly wasteful they are, too).
The doubling of capacity costs approximately $2.4 billion.
Much of this cost is a result of construction happening in the midst of an active WPCP that cannot be shut down; so, construction-staging issues. Also, frankly, construction and labor costs are high in New York City.
Too, it is on a large chunk of land for here, but, it is cramped compared to the amount of space available to other municipailites.
And, too, on the other hand, we have an intact system of sewer pipes.
Still.I think that a similar plant with a 710 Mgd capacity could be built from nothing (which would, in many ways, be easier than an upgrade) for $2 billion. Depending on how large an area (in hectares, or square miles, or whatever) this would serve, I think the pipes could be installed as well for this amount.
In addition, it would provide jobs for many, many people. Local people. It would be INFRASTRUCTURE. Public health, trade, fishing, and other industry would benefit. Education would benefit because when there is a war (followed by famine and pestilence), there is always a "brain drain". Major engineering work like this would probably bring people home. Most of them probably would stay and would attract others with advanced degrees and experience to come home, too.
It wouldn't be a bandaid.