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post #381 of 394
so far i have only read the first 3 pages of posts, but i just wanted to say that this is REDICULOUS! havign had a bit of experience with CPS (or as its called in NJ, DYFS- Department of Youth and Family Services), yes, they do help some kids/families (i was living with my father, our house was so dirty teh Board of Health was telling us to clean it, etc- though i had to make a serious threat to make sure i was taken seriously), but once the child is removed from the home, they are no longer a 'priority'. It takes forever to get in touch with a caseworker to get permission to go out of state, to arrange family visits (they didnt want to allow me to have a SUPERVISED visit with my aunt, because since she did not want to take me in, they didnt think i should see her). Plus, the fact that i had 11 caseworkers in 3 years tells a lot about how fast caseworkers can get burnt out trying to 'help' families (my 11th caseworker was assigned to me 2 days before i aged out of the system)

*positive vibes for the family, whatever the outcome is at this point*
post #382 of 394

Tell the chamber of commerce

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Originally Posted by Pearl'sDaddy
It's over!!!!!!!! I went to court today and met with our attorney. Our case was going to go to trial because we were contesting the dependency petition. We were able to reach an agreement to have the case dismissed. Of course we know why they are doing this- because they didn't have a case in the first place and they were just trying to drag it out as long as possible to just before the trial. Since our family has been persecuted by Washington state so much, my wife and I have decided to move back to our native San Jose, California to be closer with family and friends. So the agreement says that we will be allowed to leave WA state at anytime. We are going to take them up on that offer and are packing up to get the heck out of this state by the end of the week. Good riddance Spokane, Washington.
Please take a minute to write a letter to the chamber of commerce, and let them know that they lost business because of CPS abuse. Show them that they are losing money because of the bad name CPS just gave Spokane.

Just found this thread, but adding my prayers anyways.
post #383 of 394

Safe in California

I wanted everyone on the forum to know that my wife Karen, our daughter Pearl and I are now safe in California. We were afraid that CPS in WA might make a referal to the CPS in CA. But we found out that the WA CPS is not going to do that. It feels so great to not live in fear of CPS here. We can now just focus on enjoying our beautiful daughter. We never want to set foot in Spokane again. All of our family here is happy that we are back and I was albe to get my old job back

Maybe I should start another thread for this, but in Spokane, there was this group called the "Mamma's Group" that my wife would go to. She really enjoyed that. It's the one thing she misses about Spokane. She would like to find a similar attachment parenting group here in San Jose. If anyone on this forum knows of any group like that or would like to form one, please let us know. You could post it here or email me at kg6onn@arrl.net Thanks so much.
post #384 of 394
Happy to hear you and your family are safe!
post #385 of 394
I am so happy you are safe now and can relax.
post #386 of 394
Thank God. I'm so happy to hear that you are all safe. Is UC illegal in Wa state??
post #387 of 394
What wonderful luck that you were able to get your old job back. I am so happy for you and your family!
post #388 of 394

scattered post!

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Originally Posted by CrunchyKat
Is UC illegal in Wa state??
No.

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Pearl'sDaddy, I'm glad you guys are out of the system now.

Gotta say though, I'm from San Jose, and disliked it so much I ran far far away as soon as I was of age, so it's funny to think of it being a safe haven.


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Also wanted to mention that this sort of thing isn't just with birth, isn't just wiht children. My DH was in his mid20s and had a bout of depression. Was on Paxil for a bit but it made it worse, so he went off. His insurance company had something in their records about his diagnosis.

A while later he started getting blinding headaches, and was ultimately diagnosed with a benign but fast growing brain tumor. They gave him 6 months to live without treatment.

He took some time to look into their plan (radiation pointed at the brain = not pretty) and found an MD who worked alternatively. Told the diagnosing doctors (in Seattle, by the way, at UW medical center) "thanks but no thanks".

Because they had access to his insurance information, they had access to his previous treatment for depression. They decided he was trying to kill himself, and threatened committment and treatment against HIS will.

DH had to hire a lawyer that he kept on retainer for a couple years, to keep them from doing such a thing.

Of course, there's no CPS to take you away from you, right? So when it's about yourself, you have a lot more wiggle room than if the decider is another person than the one about whom decisions are being made.

Still, it's the same nonsense. Thankfully he never had a bit of radiation or chemo, did all natural things, and came through it without the tumor. Even has the follow-up MRIs to prove it (in cases like this people usually drop entirely out of the System, so MDs later say they must have been wrong about the diagnosis and there was never any cancer at all).


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consent forms....I was too busy to sign anything while being admitted to the hospital. But later they kept shoving forms in our faces. We started modifying their forms. They were mad at us but let us.

Later the sOB came in with his own little handwritten form saying that I was refusing to comply and did I know what I was doing. I signed that.

They still couldn't figure out why we were there (no one, I think, had told them we were there to be close to the NICU b/c the midwives were scared of meconium) and wouldn't allow me to do ANYTHING to help myself....

When they finally bullied me into an epidural with a 2 hour maximum and if nothing had changed, then surgery....I signed NOTHING, it was all verbal.

And of course the massive dose of heroin, er fentanyl, they gave me plus the huge epidural (I forgot I was PREGNANT, I was so drugged) really should have made any verbal consents I gave null and void, don't you think? I wouldn't even have been allowed to get a tattoo at a good parlor with all that in my system....:


I later signed the consent forms to the surgery hours AFTER having it....

And the forms were dated back to BEFORE.....


When I requested my records there were lies about DS's condition at birth (blue, limp, difficulty breathing, despite the fact that he was PINK, shaking all over, and SCREAMING his head off from the MOMENT he was taken out), and that little handwritten thing the sOB made me sign was missing.....
post #389 of 394
(By the way, after his experience, DH will NEVER use his insurance to pay for depression treatment, whether it's medical or counseling. No so.sec. numbers, no insurance, nothing to be traced back to him, just in case anything like that happens to him again....)
post #390 of 394
It's just maddening, isn't it? I don't even know what to say beyond that. I mean, right now in my town, a mommy is being tried for murder because her daughter died of meningitis and they said she should have taken her to a doctor instead of treating her ear-ache and headaches at home. How many doctors do YOU know who do a spinal tap when you bring your kid in for an ear-ache? And if the doctors missed it, would they be accused of murder? Just nuts.
post #391 of 394
Hi I have been lurking on this thread. I have only had a hb with mw but it has been a desire of mine to have an uc. I just wanted to say I have been following this thread and I am so glad and relieved that you and your family are happy and safe in CA and I hope all goes well from now on for you. Congratulations on you dd!
post #392 of 394
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Originally Posted by mollyeilis
(By the way, after his experience, DH will NEVER use his insurance to pay for depression treatment, whether it's medical or counseling. No so.sec. numbers, no insurance, nothing to be traced back to him, just in case anything like that happens to him again....)
As for Paxil making your hubby worse and so forth, followed by a brain tumor... I have heard of the antidepressants being linked to brain tumors and other cancers... even pituitary tumors. If it were me I would be suing the drug companies after an experience like that. I have thought about suing several times just to get them to increase their warnings, but these companies are so powerful that the majority of people who sue end up settling and having all records pertaining to their case sealed in exchange for the hush money.

These drugs are just not safe. Paxil is just about the worst one you can take too, with 6 times the number of people becoming suicidal as those who took no drug whatsoever. You could do some research about these drugs... I nearly went totally wacko on Zoloft but now that I am off I am totally fine.

You can read my story at http://chaada.org/smf/index.php?topic=15.0
Also see more about governmental abuse at
http://www.chaada.org/ImportantNews.html

NJ recently passed a law requiring mandatory mental health "screening" for PPD for ALL NEW MOTHERS (anyone who just gave birth). Pretty scary.

I highly recommend the site www.breggin.com and www.drugawareness.org as well.
post #393 of 394
I'm so happy that you guys are safe now!
post #394 of 394

off topic

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Originally Posted by mamaboobaAES
As for Paxil making your hubby worse and so forth, followed by a brain tumor... I have heard of the antidepressants being linked to brain tumors and other cancers... even pituitary tumors.
Ohhhhh my gosh. I don't think he's heard of that....

I'm not sure just how long he was on it, but it wasn't long. Long enough to expect to see solid results, and long enough for simply awful awful side effects (you know how the welbutrin xl ads say "low chance of sexual side effects"? well he had some side effects in that area of his life and they made him MORE suicidal and depressed than he had ever been) to start up. His doc made noises about him having therapy alongside the drugs but he refused (now he knows better), and then wouldn't help him come down slowly from the drug, so he went cold turkey and can't even describe what happened during the withdrawal period....

I'll be telling him about what you've said, most definitely.
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