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Originally posted by momsgotmilk4two
I have heard many EC moms on here say that thier babies cry while they hold them over the sink, and they are wondering if that's because the babe has to pee and can't. I'm thinking, "yeah, right, mom. Babies crying because he doesn't like being dangled naked over the sink!". |
Or because they don't like that particular position, when their tummy is full or when they have to burb, too. Or because they are just tired. Or because they don't have to pee at that moment. Or because... It's up to the mother to find out what the reason for the child's discomfort is. And do something against it. But this does not make EC as such something that's uncomfortable for babys.
On the other hand I've also witnessed several times now, that little babys started crying and while their mothers where clueless, they just had to pee or poo (we've got a playgroup here were the babies are naked for optimal freedom of movement, and you can watch how they cry first and finally go.)
I also hear about many children fighting and crying at diaper-changes, the older they get, the more. I was very happy, I did not have to diaper my son after 12 months of age, and before that, it could usually be done very quickly, as poopy diapers were rare..
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| Someone asked about benefits to the baby of wearing diapers. I would say that one huge benefit to my baby is being able to leave the house. We go to the park, the museum, playgroups, the beach, lots of places. We could not do that if we were EC. Even EC moms will say that they put the babe in diapers in the car or while out. Seems kind of wishy washy to take such a strong stance as to say that using diapers is not AP and is bad for the child, and then turn around and grab for one every time you leave the house. JMO. |
Wait a minute. There is a huge difference between using diapers as backup and using diapers as a toilet for babys. You can use diapers to avoid bigger messes in case of misses (soaked clothes, soaked momma, soaked sling, soaked carseat) and still EC. And don't tell me, that it is impossible to look for a place to "pee" baby from time to time when out and about. If all those who claim to change their baby every time he wets can go out, an EC-mom can, and much more easily, too. Because every place where you can change a baby, you can "pee" a baby as well - hold him over a diaper or a little bowl if you don't find a more suitable place. But you can also pee a baby, where changing him would be difficult or impossible. I pull Jutta's "BackUps" down with one hand, hold her over a toilet or whatever, go down in a squat and with her on my lap pull everything up again. As soon as she can stand on her own this is going to be even easier.
As EC-babys learn to relax and let go first, while conventional potty-training focuses on the ability to "hold it", with an EC baby you've also got the oportunity to offer a pee e.g. before entering the supermarket and baby will empty his bladder. So you are much less likely to get into a tight situation than with a toilet training toddler who waiting at the checkout suddenly decides he has to go NOW and you have to find a toilet in less than a minute.
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| My two year old doesn't even want to use the potty. I don't see it as diaper training him. |
But that's it exactly. He doesn't want to use the potty although his older siblings and everybody else do use the potty. Why? Because for him the diaper is the place to go. He is diaper trained.
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| It does bother me when it becomes one more thing added to the list of things you *have* to do in order to be a good/AP mother and becomes a "crunchier than thou" contest. |
Doing something just because it is crunchy is IMHO just as ridiculous as doing something just because "everybody" does it. I make my parenting-choices on what I think works best at a given moment for OUR family - it wonT necessarily be the best solution for anybody else. I think parents should know that you can get help with breastfeeding, that it is possible and even advusable to nurse past the first year, that your baby does not need a crib, that babywearing might make your life so much easier and enhance bonding with your baby, that you can homebirth and that there are not only cloth or disposables to choose from when babys elimination is concerned. You can decide what you want to do with that info I for example certainly won't win the competition for being crunchier than anybody else. I had two hospital births and I liked them, the second was 100% natural /no meds, the first only needed a bit of help to get labour along, and if I had a third child I'd go there again. I'm breasfeeding on demand and let Wolfgang self-wean and want to do it the same with Jutta, but my stance on vaccinations is not crunchy at all. I'm wearig my baby a lot, but definitely not 24/7. And so on. Why would you let others tell you what you have to do to be a "good" mother? There will be something new every day. Commercials will tell you, that you have to use babyfood X and bath Y to be a good mother, Others say you have to teach your baby to read. Others think, you should teach him to sleep through the night,Why not just listen, choose for yourself and be aware that you will never be able to do everything perfect in hindsight - so what?
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