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post #1 of 76
4/8/06 at 6:07pm
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i just checked the mail today and got a letter from the state that im under ivestigation because of "community concerns regarding your children."

its dated the day after i had elise.
im trying to call the number on the letter but getting no answer.
im really freaked out.
anyone have any advice. i feel like im going to pass out or something, im terrified.
post #2 of 76
4/8/06 at 6:09pm
Wow, scary! It didn't say anything else? You poor thing!
post #3 of 76
4/8/06 at 6:13pm
Is there a number to call or anything else? No matter what, I would be at the door of the office of the place that sent the letter at 9:00 Monday morning. If you cannot do that, place a call ASAP to the office.

Do you have any idea what this could be about? I am very sorry you are going though this. I guess you will just have to see what happens and do what you need to do to make this go away.
post #4 of 76
4/8/06 at 6:22pm
Are you sure it is legit? Normally when they want to investigate a person comes to your home within 24 hours of the report. You might get a letter after that.

I'd make sure your house is clean and that you have some sort of crib or play pen set up so you can say the baby sleeps there.

Hang in there
Kara
post #5 of 76
4/8/06 at 6:27pm


Take a deep breath, Mama. Keep us posted, try to stay calm.
post #6 of 76
4/8/06 at 6:28pm


If they thought there was a serious problem, they would have already paid you a visit. I agree that you need to go down there ASAP Monday.
post #7 of 76
4/8/06 at 6:37pm
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well they came by shortly after elise came home and talked to justin. they didnt tell him anything or even leave a number. they wanted to talk to me but i was asleep and they just left. i didnt really know what to think about that.
it seemed dumb since they could have just talked to him.
and i know my children wont be taken away, well not really. since were native american they have to go through all my relatives and my mom lives next door. but im still freaking out. my plan is to find out what the complaint was about and then research the heck out of it and give the social worker print outs...
its hard to stay calm and formulate a plan when theres a threat to your children. intent doesnt mean much, its still terrifying.
post #8 of 76
4/8/06 at 6:42pm
Oh wow.

I'm glad to hear that they have to go thru your relatives before taking kids, and that your mom is so close by. That's a relief.

CPS/CAS (here in Canada) scare the crap outta me too. I hope this gets settled quickly and easily.
post #9 of 76
4/8/06 at 6:44pm
Reading through your old posts I am sure they were called because you attempted a UC and refused tests and stuff. The hospital probably called it medical neglect when they called. Did your dp tell them that you are native and mention religious beliefs? If so, they might just go away. If they do come back do you have an Elder who can back you up on your beliefs? If they do come back act as calm as humanly possible and tell them you don't need their services.

Hang in there
Kara
post #10 of 76
4/8/06 at 6:58pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DBZ
Reading through your old posts I am sure they were called because you attempted a UC and refused tests and stuff. The hospital probably called it medical neglect when they called. Did your dp tell them that you are native and mention religious beliefs? If so, they might just go away. If they do come back do you have an Elder who can back you up on your beliefs? If they do come back act as calm as humanly possible and tell them you don't need their services.

Hang in there
Kara
well if its that some good research should back me up.
and i really wish i could play the native card on this one but i was raised in kansas and i dont know any elders, our reservation is in arizona. im the oposite of religious. and im really really bad at lying and pretending. one of the main reasons im scared.
post #11 of 76
4/8/06 at 7:14pm
get a lawyer and don't talk to the CPS person without your lawyer present. use your right to remain silent. the way they "get" most mamas is by chitchatting, the mama thinks she can just explain away the whole thing and meanwhile the caseworker is getting more and more information...


http://www.dfps.state.tx.us/Child_Pr...arentguide.asp
there is a good site for parents regarding CPS
http://www.fightcps.com/
also
http://nhdcyf.info/first_contact.html
post #12 of 76
4/8/06 at 7:17pm
Okay- number one- do NOT agree to anything without court orders. Do not let them in your front door without a warrant. Do NOT let them see your kids without a court order. Do not have more than a small-talk conversation with them without a warrant AND a lawyer. Get a lawyer now. A good one. You do not have to agree to anything if they don't have warrants. PM Tummy- she can link you with more information. There are several moms around here who have had to fight CPS.

good luck!

-Angela
post #13 of 76
4/8/06 at 8:43pm
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okay i just talked to my moms friend who is a social worker(not in any official capacity)... she knows the lady invesigating me... she told me since everyone believes having a baby at home, let alone unassisted, is extremely risky that child abuse will be substantiated. and it wont matter that i spent the majority of my pregnancy desparately trying to find prenatal care and a midwife, it wont matter that so many people were tied up in rules that they couldnt see a woman for a vbac unless she had 'proven' herself, or they werent 'allowing' vbacs since the hospital banned them. nevermind that ubac isnt illegal... its so scary that the hospital can say whatever they want and be believed because theyre the hospital... while talking with the friend ive decided i wont talk without an attorney because if i try to explain the circumstances i sound like a conspiracy theorist. ugh!
post #14 of 76
4/8/06 at 9:08pm
I just wanted to send you some positive thought and vibes
post #15 of 76
4/8/06 at 9:22pm
You are really in lawrence, ks. I can't believe this is happening there. My families own experience with "the authorities" in douglas county, is that they bend over backwards to avoid doing anything that would be considered authoritarian or conservative. To the extent that my sister had to go into hiding to avoid a stalker that they would not prosecute because he was mentally ill. Even the psychiatrists at the hospital where the police kept bringing him were ridiculously permissive and let him go early from all his psych holds because properly medicated he was perfectly reasonable. The problem was that without supervision he would not take his medication. (We only got proper intervention when he went after my parents in a different county in an attempt to find my sister).

I'm so sorry. I don't really have any good advice. Just wanted to offer my well wishes. Sorry for the tangent. I will say, that it never hurts to get a lawyer. Even if just to get sound advice about how to proceed.
post #16 of 76
4/8/06 at 9:25pm
I found this easy to read and understand.

It's a great site. Read it before they come.

Good Luck.

post #17 of 76
4/8/06 at 9:26pm
Wish I lived a little farther north, I'm in Wichita...I think you've got the right idea to not talk without a lawyer. I understand where you're coming from, but you're right, anytime I talk to someone mainstream about my ideas, they get the impression sometimes that I'm a nut full of conspiracy theories, and that's not the impression you want to give cps.
post #18 of 76
4/8/06 at 10:18pm
That's horrible! You must be scared out of your mind. It took me a little bit of reading to figure out what UC meant, lol.

I think the advice on this thread is sound.....lawyer up, and just in case, clean your house top to bottom, make sure your dc are always dressed head to toe, dishes washed and put away, no dirty laundry, etc, until this blows over.

Would I be completely out of bounds to suggest running away to Canada if the water gets too hot?
post #19 of 76
4/8/06 at 10:42pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joannarachel
I think the advice on this thread is sound.....lawyer up, and just in case, clean your house top to bottom, make sure your dc are always dressed head to toe, dishes washed and put away, no dirty laundry, etc, until this blows over.
you mean all that is really possible!? i better call in for reinforcements... ugh they came by a little after the microburst and our yard was trashed. down trees and peoples trash. we still havent gotten around to cleaning it all up. ack

pumpkin, i agree it is a bit odd for a town to liberal but the bith environment here is crap. well if you want a vbac it is. whick is also strange for such a liberal town...
post #20 of 76
4/9/06 at 12:21am
Lawyer up, hire someone to come clean your house top to bottom if you can afford it (call for help if you can't) set up a 'nursery' and make it look used (or put a crib in your bedroom, again, make it look used)

I'm so sorry, I can't even imagine how scary that must be...Sending tons of positve thoughts and prayers your way.
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