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post #1 of 8
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Ds is 7+ years old. We homeschool, so ds doesn't have as many friends his own age as most school children.

We have a neighbor down the road (we're out in a very rural area) with 2 boys. The older, Tim, is 9 years old and the younger, Alan, is 4.

Ds likes the Tim (a bit over-active, but a nice kid). He doesn't like the Alan, for several reasons.

On several occasions when we've been over at their house, when Tim left the room for a few minutes (to use the bathroom), Alan child locked ds in the room with him, blocked the door and threatened ds with a stick when ds asked him to unlock the door. Ds didn't tell me this until later (he didn't want the younger boy to get in trouble). The door was unlocked only when the Tim returned. Ds is actually afraid of Alan.

Alan has some behavioral / developmental issues, in my opinion. Though the parents have made no mention of any kinds of problems, other than the passing reference that he is so small for his age, I wonder. ((He is adopted and the birth mother had major problems.)) He IS very small with unusual proportions (his body-build is almost dwarf-like, not that that would be any kind of problem from ds's viewpoint), speaks at a much younger age level, constantly has his fingers in his mouth (sucking on all four fingers of his right hand) and is unbelievably willful with real anger issues.

Alan is a hellion when he is here and has broken a number of ds's belongings. When ds has been at their house (only a few times as we feel their home isn't child-safe enough for our tastes), the younger boy has to play with them, too, which is difficult for ds to understand. He wants to know why Tim and he can't play without Alan ALWAYS being there.

So, how do you go about telling someone that your child wants only one of their children over to play??? I've suggested to the parents that the things ds has planned to do with Tim might be a bit much for Alan, but they don't take the gentle hint. This has included some crafts that got waaaaaay out of hand because of Alan's refusal of the "NO" order (talk about a MESS!) and destruction of some of ds's trains when the Alan got angry about the railroad set-up they were doing wasn't done HIS way.

I am nervous around Alan (when he has been here) as he disregards anything I say, especially when it is in regards to his own safety. As in, "Alan, stop right there! You are NOT allowed to climb on the top of the swingset! Come down lower NOW." This was met with a sullen look and he continued to climb. Dh reached up and grabbed him down. Alan punched dh in the face.: I can't imagine what the parents would be like if Alan would be injured while at our house.

I don't want to just say, "Hey, Alan has destroyed ds's stuff and ds is afraid of him." ((Well, I DO want to say that, but I can't! ))

Sleepovers with just the one boy are out as ds co-sleeps with us and refuses to sleep elsewhere in the house just because a friend would be over. He also won't sleep-over at the friend's house. He's been invited a couple of times, and I explained he doesn't like to sleep away from home. I know they think this is weird, but whatever.

The oldest boy is the only child that ds really likes and is close to, age-wise. The couple of hs groups we tried to interact with were too different in philosophies and temperments. Ds wants to play with this boy, just NOT his younger brother.

Sigh... Any suggestions??
post #2 of 8
Well, I would tell the children's parents that you can't have Alan over at your house because you can't keep him safe.

They might not allow Tim to come alone, which would be sad for your son, but there isn't much you can do about that, I guess.
post #3 of 8
That is really hard.

Can you think of something that would be very obvious you could only take the older child to do (something like swimming where taking a 9 year old is easy, but a 4 year old is only for someone who is close to you. Roller skating? Ice skating? Bowling?) and invite just him?

Can you be direct?

Or try to find out when the younger child might be busy and then invite the older child?
post #4 of 8
wow that is a no win situation.

I would be direct. invite on the older one over. start with "he really just wants some one on one time with Tim" and if they press it be direct. It couldbe ugly or they couldbe very understanding. They me be struggling with his behavior and understand your position completely.
post #5 of 8
I would say that I'm only comfortable watching one other child at a time, so it would be best if only Tim came over. This would actually be true for me, regardless of how I felt about the other child. I can't handle being the sole adult responsible for too many kids. Well, I can, but it stresses me out.
post #6 of 8
If they seem like caring parents, I think you would want to tell them about what was going on with their son. If your son was behaving that way at someone else's house, wouldn't you want to know?

Additionally -- I will say this as someone who was easily intimidated as a child, and found it to be a big handicap growing up...sounds like you may also want to work with your son so that he isn't so afraid of a "very small" boy three years his junior. While this child's behavior is very off and I can see where it could be scary, your son needs the toolbox of how to deal with all the other intimidating bullies he's sure to meet through the rest of his life.
post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 
Thanks, ladies!

I think we'll go with the ds wanting to play with just Tim playdates. If they push it, I'll mention that ds prefers the one-on-one playtime and that Alan is young for some of their choices of entertainment (cooking, treasure-hunting, etc).

bczmama, about the "...sounds like you may also want to work with your son so that he isn't so afraid of a "very small" boy three years his junior. While this child's behavior is very off and I can see where it could be scary, your son needs the toolbox of how to deal with all the other intimidating bullies he's sure to meet through the rest of his life."

He knows he shouldn't fight fire with fire and will not intimidate someone else in defense. Alan has threatened him with a sharp stick (think shish kabob skewer), a pointed plastic sword (not rubber, but hard plastic) and a plastic baseball bat. He's smart enough to know you don't risk injury by calling a weird little kid's bluff! If he could have, he would have simply walked away. But, he was locked in a room in the basement with a sharp instrument between himself and the door!

Needless to say, he refuses to go downstairs with the boys whenever we're over there!

Again, thanks everyone!
post #8 of 8
I agree that you should ask for just some one on one time with the older boy. 7 and 9 are big age difference away from a "normal" 4 year old even, let alone one with developmental issues as well.
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