Originally Posted by WuWei
Tanya, I just read the back of the Emergen-C and it lists Alpha lipolic acid 1mg in each supplement powder. This just freaked me out!!
What dose pulls mercury?
Dang. I went and looked at the package labels online, as far as I can tell, that's a normal ingredient now in all of their products (was it always? back when I used it, I didn't know to look for it).
That will mobilize some mercury, the question is how much, whether it will have noticeable bad effects, or whether it will have low-level, hard-to-detect bad effects.
Some people, when chelating, need to start at _really_ low doses of ALA, some start at 6mg every 3 hours. Assuming someone only uses 2-3 emergen-c packets a day, this is still a lot less, but still, blech. JMBG (is that an acronym? just my best guess?), this dose is unlikely to cause mood issues in most mercury toxic people (and probably not acute health stuff like headaches/body aches), but for people _really_ on the edge, really deeply unwell, who start taking several every day, then maybe it could be an issue.
And for the price, there are a lot of other vitC products, and multivit products, that are cheaper for the dosage.
Originally Posted by kasey11
Thank you Tanyalynn for spending the time in answering my questions.
I'm sorry "later in the day" turned into "several days later."
I'll try to describe what I feel is my brain fog. It feels as though things are just not as clear as they used to be. I think it started several years ago and I had always attributed it to getting older. This seems like an unlikely explanation unless you're about 95--seriously, healthy people think clearly. This past year with the lack of consistent sleep while on mat leave it seems to have worsen a bit. There are times when I try to speak and I will either get the words mixed up or grasp for the correct word to use. So, I'm not sure if it's from my amalgams or age/sleep deprivation.
Thing is--I can't tell if your amalgams are involved, but _something_ sounds like it's impairing your body's ability to work properly. Sleep deprivation is no fun, and when it's extreme, it's enough on its own, but do you think your sleep deprivation is extreme compared to most new moms? Pregnancy itself is also nutritionally very draining, for me it was enough to start highlighting hidden weaknesses. Whatever the cause, the fact that you can't think clearly is a sign of _something_ amiss.
The only other major health issues I have are migraines (usually from change in weather pressure) and seasonal allergies. Hopefully this means I'm a good excreter, considering I have 9 amalgams.
Google migraine and MTHFR gene. It's not a 100% correlation by any account, but migraines (esp with aura) happen more in people with a high need for folate, it's a genetic variant in the population. This would be a good reason to get the Thorne multivit (Basic Nutrients, or any of their regular vit/mins), because they have folate instead of folic acid.
When I get a chance I'll read through the Curing Cavities with Nutrition sticky. Both dentists I visited described my cavity as being very close to the nerve with a possibility of a root canal. Which is probably why I feel pain on the lower right when chewing. I'm not sure I have much of a choice in postponing this. Ideally I would prefer to hold it off for 6 more months but I'm concerned with what can happen if I leave it alone too long especially in the state that it's in. Do you know of any other mamas who've held off dental work which may have led to a serious infection?
You may really need to have the dental work done, the biggest issue in my mind is how safe will this be for your nurseling. Which is healthier--weaning, or continuing to nurse several days after the amalgam is removed?
I just ordered online 2 bottles of modifilan. How many capsules of the modifilan do you think I should take daily?
If you don't wean, I'd keep it for after the removal. I took 8 when I started to get my post-removal headache, that lessened, it, then another 6 and the headache was gone.
The other shallower cavities and remaining amalgams will be dealt with later. And then after the complete amalgam removal, chelating myself and possibly my DS.
This is the start of a long journey for me. I'm so grateful for mamas like yourself who are kind enough to help those of us in need and just starting out.
To minimize risk to your LO (and I really want to stress, I am not sure this is sufficient to avoid harm to your LO, but it's good nutritional support for a person who is unwell and is geared toward people with detoxification/toxicity issues), if you don't wean before the dental work, I'd do this:
-start taking vitC 3x/day, slowly increase to see how much your body needs on a daily basis. I use Now foods sodium ascorbate, economical and easy on the stomach. healthy people shouldn't need huge amounts, say 4-5 grams per day (total, so 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 approx), some sick people need tons (I started at 44 grams per day), some sick people need only a bit, and that can take thought, I'm not sure what the answer is there (NAET maybe possibly, only a guess though on my part)
-start a good multivit, Thorne Basic Nutrients is a good one that's easy to find and affordable...
-consider a separate multi-mineral supp, Thorne again is good quality, easy to find, the products citramins and biomins are two to consider
--> the combo of Basic Nutrients citramins/biomins provides a fairly robust dosage of most vitamins and minerals,
-start a sublingual B12, B12 is significantly depleted in people with metals issues, and sublingual bypasses digestion in case your digestion is off... 2000 mcg per day is reasonable, get a hydroxycobalamin or methylcobalamin, not cyanocobalamin... I use Perque's sublingual B12, Jarrow is easily available too
-I have a quirk in my family, we don't deal with fish oils well, so I don't know what to recommend. I am, to some extent, ignoring it because I don't respond well (atypical reason, unlikely to apply to you) but overall, probably a good idea--if you choose a cod liver oil (has vitA, which isn't a bad idea) consider a vitD supplement as well, sick people tend to end up low in vitamin D (consider if this is possible, consider a separate supp for your infant, the vitamin D council website has dosage guidelines, just ignore anything they say about vitamin A
-consider food intolerances, specifically gluten and dairy (some folks find brain fog, in particular, responds to gluten and/or dairy free--I had to do a lot more work to have improvements in depression/anxiety, but there's a lot of variation here)--this reduces stress on your body, allows you to handle future stresses better... if you try it, give it 3 months to see if it's helping, I felt better in 1.5 days, but some folks don't notice anything til 3 months off and then they eat a sandwich and feel BAD, and don't realize they slowly trended better
-read this doc about vitamin C flushes (I use 50% Perque vitC crystals, 50% Now foods sodium ascorbate):http://www.perque.com/pdfs/Pt_Ascorbate_Slush_FIN.pdf
I did those while nursing, I think it was beneficial then, and I think it was beneficial to do them the night I got my amalgams out. I'd try them beforehand, just to see how your body responds. After each flush, I needed to reduce the amount of daily vitC my body needed--that directly lowered the toxins in my milk.
That's the best I can come up with, if you decide not to wean. I do not know how big the risk is if you continue nursing after the removal--I'd really wait at least 3 days, and do all this, but even then... the risk is proportionate to your susceptibility to health issues that are detoxification related. People who end up reading this thread seem to be on the sicker end of the health spectrum, so I'd proceed with caution.
Oh--one thing that may be helpful... think about your family health history, what problems are your parents and siblings prone to? Maybe both parents are similar, but if they seem very different, focus on the one you are more similar to wrt health stuff.
My family--anxiety, depression, other mood disorders, thyroid problems, fatigue, alzheimer's. Am I forgetting anything? Allergies, for us enviro year-round. That's not everything, but those are some that are typical, and some families are truly without any of that stuff.
Make sense? Best wishes, let us know if we can help more.