From my reading and talking to those who know - Sodium Ascorbate powder - can take higher doses without bowel problems
Sheri (and quoting Hilary who is here)
Here is a summary of the Vitamin C articles I've posted before
>From one of the most
knowledgable docs on Vit C - also mentions Archie Kalokerinos MD in
Australia who discovered cure for SIDS in aboriginal babies (too bad we
don't use it here - Vit C)
http://doctoryourself.com/cathcart_thirdface.html
Why A Sick Body Needs So Much Vitamin C
Megadoses: Why?
Home
The Third Face of Vitamin C
Robert F. Cathcart, M.D.
Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine, 7:4;197-200, 1993.
********
http://www.orthomed.com/klenner.htm
Journal of Applied Nutrition Vol. 23, No's 3 & 4, Winter 1971
Observations On the Dose and Administration of Ascorbic Acid When Employed
Beyond the Range Of A Vitamin In Human Pathology
Frederick R. Klenner, M.D., F.C.C.P.
*********
"How Much Is Too Much?
Dr. Robert Cathcart believes the ideal intake for any individual is the
highest level they can tolerate without loose bowels. On the basis of his
experience with 11,000 patients over 14 years this bowel tolerance level
may be 10 to 15 grams in a healthy person, 30 to 60 grams in a person with
a cold, and over 199 grams per day in a person with a serious infectious
illness. During an infectious illness the best clinical results have been
achieved by maintaining high vitamin C levels in the blood through 3 or
more grams every four hours.
(again this may need to be sodium ascorbate form)
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/mega_1_1.html#HOLFORD
VITAMIN C:
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
By Patrick Holford
*******
http://www.internetwks.com/pauling/hoffer.html
(links to some of the articles in the bibliography are there on the webpage)
(c) 1996
First published June 1996 in THE TOWNSEND LETTER FOR DOCTORS AND PATIENTS
Reprinted with permission by the Author and The Townsend Letter
The Vitamin Paradigm Wars
*********
http://www.orthomed.com/polio.htm
July, 1949 SOUTHERN MEDICINE & SURGERY 209
The Treatment of Poliomyelitis and Other Virus Diseases with Vitamin C
Fred R. Klenner, M.D., Reidsville, North Carolina
********
http://www.*********/p/vitc.html
VITAMIN C, the cheap anti-viral
Dr Cathcart http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/
Vit C Foundation http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/
Klenner paper http://www.orthomed.com/klenner.htm
Null http://www.thehealingcenter.com/
Dr Pittman http://www.he.net/~center/
OrthoMed http://www.orthomed.org/
Ascorbate Web http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/
Linus Pauling site http://www.internetwks.com/pauling/
C for Yourself http://www.CforYourself.com/
******
And from Hilary WITHIN PERMISSION TO POST
"Don't use Calcium ascorbate - ever. There are very good reasons why,
not least of which is how it is metabolised in the body. Calcium
Ascorbate is a no no. I learned the hard way. Brief description.
In order to metabolise ascorbate, the Vitamin C needs a sodium ion.
It splits into two compounds, one of which is used, the other
excreted. The basic biochemical unit of the cell is the sodium ion.
If you use calcium ascorbate, the calcium sheers away, and sodium is
pulled from the nearest cell with it in it. Once the ascorbate is
split, the first thing it does is to chelate out the calcium, which
should not be there. Then what you have left, is what is available.
That is why you rarely get diarrhoea with calcium ascorbate. Because
you have to use far more of it to do what sodium ascorbate does. So
how did ester C become supposedly the best. I don't know. I know my
facts, because Archie Kalokerinos explained them to me, as have a
couple of biochemists. I needed to know, because when Archie sorted
out my arthritis after the rubella vaccine, he didn't put a label on
it. I didn't know what it was. So when I ran out, I went to the
health shop, and asked for "the best". Within 9 months, I was in
deep trouble and rang Archie to ask if this stuff was supposed to
kill me (had a severe sodium deficiency, which was stuffing my immune
system even worse than normal!!!). He asked what was on the bottle,
and when I read out Calcium Ascorbate - well - I'm sure he would have
boxed my ears if he was in the same room. Just joking. He's very
calm and gentle, is Archie. Anyway, he explained that I would need
to salt everything in sight for a while, and never to do it again.
Hypercalcemia makes cancer cells grow like billie-oh... "
And from someone else - can't verify this, but sounds accurate
Divide the number of pounds by 2.2 to get the kilograms your child weights
and then multiply times 200 for minimum mg per day
40 pounds divided by 2.2 = about 18 kilograms X 200 mg per kg of body weight = 3636 mg or 3.6 GM
OR X 375 mg (hi end) = 6818 mg or 6.8 gm
See below
For dosage it all depends
(Give until they get the poopies and then cut back a little)
Sodium ascorbate powder for breastfed babies.
Dosage rate = between 200 - 375 mg per kg of body
weight over waking hours, actual dose depends on
individual.
So if your baby weighs 4 kilos, one gram vitamin C =
1,000 mgs ( one-quarter of a level tsp) should be split
into several doses, and given from morning to
evening....
One good pinch equals 250 mgs, if you want to use the
vague method.
Express some breastmilk, dissolve the vitamin C. Using
a plastic dropper, drip it into the inside of her cheek
until all in, or get it into her as she breastfeeds by
inserting the dropper without breaking her "seal" - not
so easy!!!
You should start to notice a significant difference
within 24 hours.
In UK I get from Health Plus
http://www.healthplus.co.uk
In US -Bronson Labs
http://www.bronsononline.com/cgi-bin...CGRY_NUM=11841
Sheri (and quoting Hilary who is here)
Here is a summary of the Vitamin C articles I've posted before
>From one of the most
knowledgable docs on Vit C - also mentions Archie Kalokerinos MD in
Australia who discovered cure for SIDS in aboriginal babies (too bad we
don't use it here - Vit C)
http://doctoryourself.com/cathcart_thirdface.html
Why A Sick Body Needs So Much Vitamin C
Megadoses: Why?
Home
The Third Face of Vitamin C
Robert F. Cathcart, M.D.
Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine, 7:4;197-200, 1993.
********
http://www.orthomed.com/klenner.htm
Journal of Applied Nutrition Vol. 23, No's 3 & 4, Winter 1971
Observations On the Dose and Administration of Ascorbic Acid When Employed
Beyond the Range Of A Vitamin In Human Pathology
Frederick R. Klenner, M.D., F.C.C.P.
*********
"How Much Is Too Much?
Dr. Robert Cathcart believes the ideal intake for any individual is the
highest level they can tolerate without loose bowels. On the basis of his
experience with 11,000 patients over 14 years this bowel tolerance level
may be 10 to 15 grams in a healthy person, 30 to 60 grams in a person with
a cold, and over 199 grams per day in a person with a serious infectious
illness. During an infectious illness the best clinical results have been
achieved by maintaining high vitamin C levels in the blood through 3 or
more grams every four hours.
(again this may need to be sodium ascorbate form)
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/mega_1_1.html#HOLFORD
VITAMIN C:
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?
By Patrick Holford
*******
http://www.internetwks.com/pauling/hoffer.html
(links to some of the articles in the bibliography are there on the webpage)
(c) 1996
First published June 1996 in THE TOWNSEND LETTER FOR DOCTORS AND PATIENTS
Reprinted with permission by the Author and The Townsend Letter
The Vitamin Paradigm Wars
*********
http://www.orthomed.com/polio.htm
July, 1949 SOUTHERN MEDICINE & SURGERY 209
The Treatment of Poliomyelitis and Other Virus Diseases with Vitamin C
Fred R. Klenner, M.D., Reidsville, North Carolina
********
http://www.*********/p/vitc.html
VITAMIN C, the cheap anti-viral
Dr Cathcart http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/
Vit C Foundation http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/
Klenner paper http://www.orthomed.com/klenner.htm
Null http://www.thehealingcenter.com/
Dr Pittman http://www.he.net/~center/
OrthoMed http://www.orthomed.org/
Ascorbate Web http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/
Linus Pauling site http://www.internetwks.com/pauling/
C for Yourself http://www.CforYourself.com/
******
And from Hilary WITHIN PERMISSION TO POST
"Don't use Calcium ascorbate - ever. There are very good reasons why,
not least of which is how it is metabolised in the body. Calcium
Ascorbate is a no no. I learned the hard way. Brief description.
In order to metabolise ascorbate, the Vitamin C needs a sodium ion.
It splits into two compounds, one of which is used, the other
excreted. The basic biochemical unit of the cell is the sodium ion.
If you use calcium ascorbate, the calcium sheers away, and sodium is
pulled from the nearest cell with it in it. Once the ascorbate is
split, the first thing it does is to chelate out the calcium, which
should not be there. Then what you have left, is what is available.
That is why you rarely get diarrhoea with calcium ascorbate. Because
you have to use far more of it to do what sodium ascorbate does. So
how did ester C become supposedly the best. I don't know. I know my
facts, because Archie Kalokerinos explained them to me, as have a
couple of biochemists. I needed to know, because when Archie sorted
out my arthritis after the rubella vaccine, he didn't put a label on
it. I didn't know what it was. So when I ran out, I went to the
health shop, and asked for "the best". Within 9 months, I was in
deep trouble and rang Archie to ask if this stuff was supposed to
kill me (had a severe sodium deficiency, which was stuffing my immune
system even worse than normal!!!). He asked what was on the bottle,
and when I read out Calcium Ascorbate - well - I'm sure he would have
boxed my ears if he was in the same room. Just joking. He's very
calm and gentle, is Archie. Anyway, he explained that I would need
to salt everything in sight for a while, and never to do it again.
Hypercalcemia makes cancer cells grow like billie-oh... "
And from someone else - can't verify this, but sounds accurate
Divide the number of pounds by 2.2 to get the kilograms your child weights
and then multiply times 200 for minimum mg per day
40 pounds divided by 2.2 = about 18 kilograms X 200 mg per kg of body weight = 3636 mg or 3.6 GM
OR X 375 mg (hi end) = 6818 mg or 6.8 gm
See below
For dosage it all depends
(Give until they get the poopies and then cut back a little)
Sodium ascorbate powder for breastfed babies.
Dosage rate = between 200 - 375 mg per kg of body
weight over waking hours, actual dose depends on
individual.
So if your baby weighs 4 kilos, one gram vitamin C =
1,000 mgs ( one-quarter of a level tsp) should be split
into several doses, and given from morning to
evening....
One good pinch equals 250 mgs, if you want to use the
vague method.
Express some breastmilk, dissolve the vitamin C. Using
a plastic dropper, drip it into the inside of her cheek
until all in, or get it into her as she breastfeeds by
inserting the dropper without breaking her "seal" - not
so easy!!!
You should start to notice a significant difference
within 24 hours.
In UK I get from Health Plus
http://www.healthplus.co.uk
In US -Bronson Labs
http://www.bronsononline.com/cgi-bin...CGRY_NUM=11841
)
it's so hard to get proper, useful information as a regular person. I really appriciate you posting this information here!! 
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