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post #21 of 550
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Originally Posted by LongIsland
While they won't do mass testing, it would be nice to know. There are likely many asymptomatic cases that will go (and have gone) unreported.
Yup.
Mumps is such a mild illness, a whopping one in 3 cases are thought to be completely asymptomatic.

In the prevax days, mumps related sterility was basically unheard of. About a decade after the introduction of the vax, the cases slowly started climbing in a trend that has continued until this day.
http://kidshealth.org/parent/infecti...ral/mumps.html
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As in the prevaccine era, most cases of mumps are still in children ages 5 to 14, but the proportion of young adults who become infected has been rising slowly over the last two decades.
Maybe if everyone realised how bad this vax has actually been for public health, this rediculous practice of vaxing babies for it would cease.
post #22 of 550
i read that orchitis rarely occured in postpubertal males, that it was most common in prepubertal males...but you say it's the other way around? : sorry still in the learning process about the whole mumps "crisis"...
post #23 of 550
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Originally Posted by rareimer
i read that orchitis rarely occured in postpubertal males, that it was most common in prepubertal males...but you say it's the other way around? : sorry still in the learning process about the whole mumps "crisis"...
Maybe you did read that it rarely occured in postpubertal males, because it is rare in postpubertal males. But it's non-existent in prepubertal males. The fact of the matter is that mumps orchitis is just plain rare. And sterility after mumps orchitis is very, very rare. And even if that testicle is rendered, er, ineffective, there is still a whole 'nother testicle, so big whoop, kwim? Orchitis in both testicles is so rare it's pretty much unheard of. And boohoo if a grown man does get orchitis. After 15 years of painful periods, my sympathy isn't running that high. No, that's just a joke. I don't have a son, but if I did, I certainly wouldn't want him getting orchitis when he grew up.
post #24 of 550
There are 4 cases in my county now. Too bad I probably couldn't find them...

Whats funny to me is this is mainly in college students, there is a college in my town, there is a college in Story county and only 5 people have it, there is a college in Mahaska county and there are zero cases, there are 3 colleges in polk county and only 19 cases amd there is a college in Johnson county and there are 77 cases there. not a whole bunch of college cases really...
post #25 of 550
I appreciate everyone following the ua and not posting anything inflammatory or baiting towards each other!

post #26 of 550
I just watched a clip on msnbc about this. It made me . They were talking about the CDC "scrambling" during this "public health epidemic". Then they cut to a woman who was infected and she says,"Yeah, I had a sore throat and one of my glands was swollen".
Oh the humanity!!
post #27 of 550
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Originally Posted by cornflake girl
Why not? It's perfectly fine when vaxing!



post #28 of 550
Why would you want to expose your precious child to a illness like mumps, I had it as a child and it was so painful and horrible , nasty stuff. Some illnesses that seem harmless can make a child really really sick. My sister nearly died of the measles as a child. I for one am so very glad my children can be vaccinated against these illnesses now and do not have to be exposed to them. My husband a couple of years ago got shingles which you can only get if you have had chickenpox as a child, needless to say after seeing the pain, and sickness he went through [ he still has nerve pain on that site] quickly got my children vaccinated against that so they would never have to risk getting a horrible disease like that as a adult.
post #29 of 550
I laugh bitterly at the news people on tv and the embarrassingly slim amount of knowledge they are able to come up with when reporting on this outbreak. It's spreading like wildfire around here. Big, huge news story.

I find it most interesting (fulfilling?!) to watch the health authorities have to go on camera stating things like, the MMR vaccine sometimes is mishandled, so its potency may not always be the best when it is administered, leading to decreased immunity; vaccines do not take in 100% of the population; we're finding that the majority of cases are in vaccinated people; um, sorry, but the vaccine takes two weeks to take good effect in the body, so it won't help you not get the mumps...and, my favorite , mumps is rarely a fatal disease, it's mostly an uncomfortble illness...there's no treatment for it other than bedrest and seclusion to prevent spreading it around.

YES! YES! YES! That's why I'm not giving that blasted shot to my baby! Thank you for government-sponsored evidence, on tape, widely distributed to the masses, of why it's definitely fallible, for when I have to go up against the school district in 5 years.

This is good for our anti-vac cause.

T
post #30 of 550
the news came on and my head exploded...
mumps pffft.
my mom was slightly frantic about mumps and i had to remind her that when i was little one of my friends had mumps and i most certaintly was exposed. im so glad i have memories of children with *gasp* childhood diseases and ive seen first hand as long as you dont over react, panic and run to a doctor not much is going to happen. im not saying it was fun being sick but really...mothers these days are just too trusting of the cdc. ack

i feel bad for the girl who got mumps first though, we made fun of her with her swollen glands...poor girl
post #31 of 550
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Originally Posted by alley cat
Why would you want to expose your precious child to a illness like mumps, I had it as a child and it was so painful and horrible , nasty stuff. Some illnesses that seem harmless can make a child really really sick.
Because mumps during childhood is a minor illness, and mumps during adulthood is more serious. Having natural immunity confers lifelong protection while vaccines wear off after several years, leaving the adult susceptible to more complications from the infection. Children get sick, it's a normal part of childhood. I've suffered through my share of colds, sore throats, fevers, pneumonia, chicken pox, etc. Everyone does.

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My husband a couple of years ago got shingles which you can only get if you have had chickenpox as a child, needless to say after seeing the pain, and sickness he went through [ he still has nerve pain on that site] quickly got my children vaccinated against that so they would never have to risk getting a horrible disease like that as a adult.
My DH never got chicken pox according to his parents. He was an only child, so I think they would have remembered. A few years ago he broke out with shingles. Yes, a physician diagnosed it. It was just a rash of red plaques. He had no pain, no itching, nothing.
post #32 of 550
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Originally Posted by alley cat
My husband a couple of years ago got shingles which you can only get if you have had chickenpox as a child

You don't need to get chicken pox "as a child" in order to contract shingles.

. . . AND you can also contract shingles after you've been vaccinated with the varicella vaccine.

So, while you "quickly" vaccinated your children with the varicella vaccine, your children may still get shingles. In fact, a vaccinated 6 year old in my son's school just had shingles and some vaxed kids also contracted chicken pox from the same child.
post #33 of 550
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Originally Posted by alley cat
My sister nearly died of the measles as a child.
If she had complications from measles and nearly died, there was likely something else going on with her immune system.

While you may freak out over these diseases, you won't find many mama's here afraid of the measles, mumps, etc.

Our children are too precious to vaccinate.
post #34 of 550
So, what would be a good course of treatment should this come to our house?
post #35 of 550
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Originally Posted by alley cat
My husband a couple of years ago got shingles which you can only get if you have had chickenpox as a child, needless to say after seeing the pain, and sickness he went through [ he still has nerve pain on that site] quickly got my children vaccinated against that so they would never have to risk getting a horrible disease like that as a adult.
I "survived" both chickenpox (age7) and shingles (age 20) and DO NOT plan on vaxing dd for varicella. Many of my friends have vaxed their kiddos for chickenpox and their kids have still gotten them. One of the problems with that vaccine is that it doesn't cover all the variations of the varicella virus. That bug has mutated so many times throughout the years that it is impossible (at this point) to create a vax that completely prevents the illness. Kids are better off contracting the disease than artificially stimulating their immune systems to try and prevent the illness.
post #36 of 550
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Originally Posted by mamanurse
One of the problems with that vaccine is that it doesn't cover all the variations of the varicella virus. That bug has mutated so many times throughout the years that it is impossible (at this point) to create a vax that completely prevents the illness. Kids are better off contracting the disease than artificially stimulating their immune systems to try and prevent the illness.
Actually, that's not true (although that's what I thought at first, too.).
The varicella virus is one of the most genetically stable viruses ever.
Really, it's just that the vax doesn't work a lot of times.
The "99% effective" number is just a pure and simple lie, no mutating viruses involved.
post #37 of 550
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,"Yeah, I had a sore throat and one of my glands was swollen".
Oh the humanity!!


LOL I had those symptoms along with a cold a few months back.......sheesh. People can be so dramatic!

Of course in all this the pro-vaxers come out with all their horror stories. "OMG, I had the chicken pox and I ALMOST DIED.......ya know, I had to take oatmeal baths and miss school for a week! GASP!!!!!!!!" Come on now, people, seriously. LOL

Maybe my dh will get it and get sterile. LOL Too bad thats so darn rare to happen in both testes.......or else he could skip a vasectomy. LOL
post #38 of 550
Hey, it's headed my way! Is DS too young to expose? He's 15 months.

By the way, if anyone knows of CP in Ohio, I wouldn't mind getting that out of the way while we're at it!

ETA: I don't think I got mumps as a kid (I probably got the vax) - how likely is it that I'll get it?
post #39 of 550
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Originally Posted by minkajane
ETA: I don't think I got mumps as a kid (I probably got the vax) - how likely is it that I'll get it?


Very likely . . . especially if you got two doses.
post #40 of 550
I had it last year (ive had 3 MMR) it wasnt fun or anything, but trust me, i was much more miserable with a yeast infection.
DS #2 had it the same time last year (1 MMR) he was 2 at the time he ran a fever for a week, was swollen and crabby, but that was it.

DS #1 had it a couple weeks ago.he is 8. (2 MMR) Again, fever and swelling for a week. On the couch, slept on and off. And he got over it.

Hmmmm, my unvaccinated child has yet to get it.
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