Are allergies related to vaccinations?

[chlobo]

So the third kid in my playgroup was just diagnosed with a life threatening nut allergy. There are only 8 kids so this seems like a lot.

I'm just wondering if anyone knows if they are related to vaccinations?

personally, I would like to see the following study

group 1: breastfed, no vac
group 2: breastfed, vac
group 3: bottle, no vac
group 4: bottle, vac

And see who has the highest rate of allergies.

[marilynmama]

I know a lot of people on this board believe they are, but in my AP playgroup where *none* of the kids are vax'ed, we ALL breastfeed (extended--4 and 5 yrs is common), eat healthy, etc. at least half of the kids have allergy problems, asthma, food allergies, etc so for me it is just not very clear cut at all. One of our playgroup members who is extrememly anti-vax has 1 kid with ADHD and her oldest is autistic (she has 7 kids total--none vax'ed and all breastfeed).

I just wonder about environmental factors playing a larger role in some of this?

[krissi]

This was actually one of the things that led me to start questioning vaxes back before we even suspected DD was autistic, because I started running some searches on this. Allergies run in our family on both sides. Apparently some studies exist that show a link between vaxes and allergies/asthma such that even the IOM has been unable to reject a causal relationship, although they always word this by saying there's "no conclusive evidence of a link" and not calling for further study into the matter. I figured the IOM's inability to reject the link meant there was too much credible evidence of a link to be swept under the carpet, but just not enough to force them to admit a link.

The committee looked at five studies examining multiple vaccinations and their potential to cause allergic diseases, which reflect a hypersensitivity of the immune system to relatively harmless agents in the environment, like pollens, dust mites, insect venom, and specific foods. Some, but not all, of these studies suggested that certain vaccines increase the risk of developing allergic disorders. Methodological weaknesses and inconsistent findings among the studies, however, led the committee to conclude that there is inadequate evidence to either accept or reject a causal relationship between multiple immunizations and increased risk of allergic diseases, particularly asthma.

http://www4.nas.edu/news.nsf/6a3520d...7?OpenDocument

I am sure that genetic predispositions and environmental factors play a role too though. We eat very healthy--about 80% organic. I am still bf'ing him and introducing solids VERY slowly and delaying all highly allergenic foods, but DS is showing signs of food allergies. And he has never received a vax.

[Drummer's Wife]

I would guess that the highest rate would be in bottle fed and vax'd kids... however I don't know that there really are any studies that support this.

Personally, my 14 month old is completely vax-free and is still nursing...he has horrible eczema and a milk allergy.

I don't vax at all, but I do think it's important for parents who have children that have any type of skin or allergy issues to avoid vaccines... all the more reason to just say no!! You never know how their body will react!

[Boobs]

I've wondered this too.
We just recently discovered that my 14 mo ds has severe peanut allergy. He's only received one shot, HIB at 2 months old. (I caved under the hormones and dr)
He's breastfed.

I ate a lot of peanut butter and peanuts while I was pregnant with him. But then don't a lot of women??

3 in 8 is mind-boggling

[mammom]

This might be a dumb question, but what are signs of food allergies?

My ds (26mo) has some slight little bumps all over his torso that I've noticed, but haven't been too concerned about (no other "symptoms" of anything, so I suppose he's fine! He's only bathed two or three times a week, and I use very gentle soap and some burt's bees baby oil rarely, so I don't think it's from anything topical). He's not chronically stuffy-nosed or anything...

He eats all sorts of nuts and a tiny bit of dairy (just some milk on his cereal in the a.m. and an occasional bit of cheese). He also eats a lot of grains, which may not be a great thing... Not sure.

[rabrog]

I'm guessing vax could play a role but also the preservatives in our food have increased, hormones in food and with ADHD, television.

Jenn

[marilynmama]

Originally Posted by Boobs

I ate a lot of peanut butter and peanuts while I was pregnant with him. But then don't a lot of women??

Well I know I ate a LOT Of peanut butter when I was pregnant, I just craved it! No peanut allergies here. I didn't know any better and fed my first child peanut butter when she was like 7 months old and no problems either for her.

I just don't buy that vax=allergies, but that is just me and my experiences. I think hormones, additives, environmental factors that are not in our control, pesticides, etc play a FAR more important role in all these allergies, etc.

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by mammom

My ds (26mo) has some slight little bumps all over his torso that I've noticed, but haven't been too concerned about (no other "symptoms" of anything, so I suppose he's fine!

That may be a reaction to the chlorine or fluoride in the water both which are absorbed by the skin. See the fluoride thread...

[Gitti]

Here is an article from the The Washington Times.

There are studies and informed observations suggesting that a rise in peanut allergies -- and other severe allergic and autoimmune reactions in young people, both acute and chronic -- are associated with a rise in childhood vaccinations in the 1990s.

Our purpose here is not to propose this as the most plausible hypothesis, but simply to point out -- yet again -- how nutty the discussion of the horrifying rise in childhood medical problems becomes when it does not look squarely at all possibilities.

And vaccines are among those possibilities -- certainly right up there with peanut eating during pregnancy, to say the least. We refer you to this posting on the Web:

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Daily...s&Vaccines.htm.

"The occurrence of anaphylaxis in the US is not as rare as is generally believed. On the basis of our figures, the problem of anaphylaxis may, in fact, affect 1.21 percent (1.9 million) to 15.04 percent (40.9 million) of the US population."

From the Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics in 2000,

"The odds of having a history of asthma was twice as great among vaccinated subjects than among unvaccinated subjects.

The odds of having any allergy-related respiratory symptom in the past 12 months was 63 percent greater among vaccinated subjects than unvaccinated subjects."

I would urge you to read the study posted above.

This is fact: to test allergy medicine an allergy has to be provoked in a test animal first. In order to do so, they inject the animal (usually dogs) with the reliable allergy introducing Pertussis vaccine.

[MyLittleWonders]

Personally (and unscientifically ), I think vax's are just one piece of the puzzle. Allergies seem very related to damaged guts, which can be "inherited" from mom if mom's health isn't 100% (and who's is?). We are slowly killing ourselves (as a society/nation), and it's been going on for the better part of the last century. The more crud we throw on ourselves, in ourselves, on our crops/animals, in our water, the worse it gets. And TPTB sit and scratch their heads. We have a tremendous amount of toxins in and around our bodies on a daily basis - our children in utero are going to be exposed, as will our new babies and children as they grow.

I believe that vax's can definitely lead to allergies/autoimmune issues. But I also believe that other environmental toxins/pollutants can cause them too. To me it comes down to this: eliminate all that I have control over, and learn how to keep us as healthy/whole as possible, yk? We've gone as organic as I think we can afford for now (probably 70-80%), switched over to raw dairy, stopped spraying junk to kill the bugs , stopped all allopathic medication (minus my OTC acid reflux stuff until the end of this pregnancy), etc.

But the simple answer, to me, is that vax's can be just as responsible as anything else ... so can any allopathic medicine (antibiotics) and environmental toxins ... all of our "advancements" and "technologies" are going to spell the complete end of us, imo.

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by MyLittleWonders

We are slowly killing ourselves (as a society/nation), and it's been going on for the better part of the last century. ....

....all of our "advancements" and "technologies" are going to spell the complete end of us, imo.

[caedmyn]

mammom--the little bumps could be yeast...my DD had some that showed up after baths and I thought she was allergic to the baby wash, but after she got the same little bumps on her butt, I figured out that they are all yeast.

[Britishmum]

Ds has very severe allergies including peanuts. He has not had one vaccination, nor eye gloop, nor Vit K. He has only ever had breastmilk, and will continue to nurse until he self-weans, like my other kids - who had some vaccs, but have no allergies at all.

So ime there is no connection.

[CrazyCatLady]

Here's something weird that I'm seeing first hand. I'm going to a nursing school. Every Monday and Wednesday is clinic (we do shots, blood draws, ect). When class started a few months ago we had one person slightly allergic to latex. In the last few weeks everyone has started receiving their "mandatory" Hep B shots, MMR, and tetanus. Now all of a sudden we have five student with latex allergies. Maybe it's the extra exposure to it? Still seems odd to me. I wonder if it's the shots. If nothing else, I don't think that the vaxes are helping anything.

[ramlita]

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