Circumcision and pets - Page 2

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by LeosMama

You know, just to go a bit further OT with this....
I owned a gelding for about 12 years. I never really cleaned his sheath. People were always telling me to, but really I just occassionally ran cold water up into it with the hose (he let me know he didn't care for THAT!) and once a friend cleaned it out for me.
but he always seemed fine and I just couldn't figure out what all the fuss was about. it's just smegma, it peels off and falls out on its own. nobody cleans mustangs' sheaths, and they're just fine.

i think this is like retracting and cleaning boys' foreskins. it's just a silly phobic myth.

Hmmm, I never cleaned out my geldings' peneses either. Never thought about it. I don't think anyone ever told me to. It was able to come in and out by itself and I always figured it was working and took care of itself. Interesting.

I have no idea about that bumper sticker though.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Synchro246

I *guess* I could see the argument behind the cleaning of a gelding's forskin, since it isn't getting much fun horse sex to dislodge a whole lot of stuff and in the wild geldings just wouldn't exist. I can't remember how wild horses live. Many mares a few stallions, and a bunch of boys living off on their own? If that's the case the stallions are having enough sex to keep the smegma moving. Geldings still get erections though, right? So that should be enough to dislodge some stuff and keep things moving. Smegma is in and of itself bacteriostatic right?
This whole horse thing brings me back to highscool when I rode horses and I remember looking in a catalogue at one product called "Xcalibur" specifically for cleaning foreskins. I remember thinking it was obserd. Then I saw one really old gelded pony on the farm and it had an erection and it's penis was yucky and pitted looking. I don't know if that's related though. He was really old.

Thinking back, I haven't had a horse for many years now, I don't remember my horses ever getting erections but their penises popped out when they peed and then they slid back up. I don't think they get erections but I might be completely wrong. Geldings don't have their testicles so they don't get the hormones anymor to make tehm horny. Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe they do get erections, I just never noticed it. Or I don't remember noticing it.

[Pandora114]

hmm no one sais to clean the interior of the sheath of a nutered dog or cat now...

Why have these instructions for horses?

Makes no sense..

[wendy1221]

Originally Posted by mara

Thinking back, I haven't had a horse for many years now, I don't remember my horses ever getting erections but their penises popped out when they peed and then they slid back up. I don't think they get erections but I might be completely wrong. Geldings don't have their testicles so they don't get the hormones anymor to make tehm horny. Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe they do get erections, I just never noticed it. Or I don't remember noticing it.

Uh, yes they do. I haven't even been around a lot of horses and I've seen several horsey dongs dragging in the dust. Looked VERY uncomfortable to me!

On 2nd thought, I guess they're not technically erections since they're all limp and dragging on the ground.

[Synchro246]

Any animal, including humans and dogs, can get a good erection after being nutered. A human can even have an orgasm, just nothing comes out. They don't have much *desire* to have sex, but if they do they can still act pretty normally.

My nutered 55 lb dog "tied" with my 15 lb dog when she was in heat. That was a little scary.

Has anyone tried to retract their dog's forskin just for fun/curiosity?

[stellimamo]

Jumping back into the discussion.

As for horses it really depends on the horse if and how often you have to clean their sheath. Some of our geldings we had to clean every 3 or 4 months because the build up was awful and some we never cleaned because they never got bad. Some of our boys love having it done and some absolutely hate it, and I'm not about to put my hand there on a horse that isn't excited about having it done, no pun intended. That being said it still is a totally gross task that i try to do as infrequently as possible.

One clue that they needed to be cleaned was the sheath would actually start making a weird sound while they are being ridden. I know that one of the reasons its important to clean a domesticated horse's sheath is the amount of arena dust that they are exposed to ( if there are ridden in a sand ring) does make the shmegma build up way worse. Our non arena ridden geldings rarely have to be cleaned if ever. One weird thing I've noticed over time is that light color horses usually seem to be worse in the schmegma department than bays and chestnuts.

I have seen infections in older geldings from not having their sheaths cleaned and have problems "dropping" to urinate. Also if large pieces of foreign matter does work its way up in there it can cause an infection to and cleaning the sheath helps to get any stray shavings, hay, etc. that might have found its way up in there.

[Galatea]

I remember cleaning male horses. Yuck.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Synchro246

Any animal, including humans and dogs, can get a good erection after being nutered. A human can even have an orgasm, just nothing comes out. They don't have much *desire* to have sex, but if they do they can still act pretty normally.

My nutered 55 lb dog "tied" with my 15 lb dog when she was in heat. That was a little scary.

Has anyone tried to retract their dog's forskin just for fun/curiosity?

A gelding is totally different that a vasectomy'd guy. In a horse they don't jusdt clip the tubes, they totally castrate them. Maybe they can get erections, I don't know, I've never seen a gelding have a hard penis, whenever I've seen them come out they've been soft and floppy./ But I just wanted to pount out that castration is different than what a man human gets when he gets"fixed".

[stellimamo]

Maybe they can get erections, I don't know,

They can and some still do act very studdish. I had a gelding that absolutly could not be turned out w/ mares because he became possessive and studly and would even mount them. He was fully cut and not proud cut.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by stellimamo

They can and some still do act very studdish. I had a gelding that absolutly could not be turned out w/ mares because he became possessive and studly and would even mount them. He was fully cut and not proud cut.

Wow LOL OK, I was wrong. I never saw that behavior in any of my geldings or other ones at the stables. Definitely saw crazy behavior from the stallions, I didn't realize a gelding would still act studdish.

[MonicaS]

Originally Posted by mara

Wow LOL OK, I was wrong. I never saw that behavior in any of my geldings or other ones at the stables. Definitely saw crazy behavior from the stallions, I didn't realize a gelding would still act studdish.

I used to have horses, too. Isn't it true that the later a horse is gelded can have a lot to do w/ his temperment? He remebers being a stallion and retains some of his stallion qualities. I haven't studied horses for several years, but I seem to remember that info.
I've also heard of cats that are neutered later in life still behaving like tom cats.

[stellimamo]

Isn't it true that the later a horse is gelded can have a lot to do w/ his temperment?

Thats very true. Health conditions can make for studdish behavior too. My friend had a mare that had a tumor on her ovary and if you didn't look under her belly you would have sworn she was a stud!!! We had a gelding with a thyroid issue and once his levels we fixed he quit being studly.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by stellimamo

Thats very true. Health conditions can make for studdish behavior too. My friend had a mare that had a tumor on her ovary and if you didn't look under her belly you would have sworn she was a stud!!! We had a gelding with a thyroid issue and once his levels we fixed he quit being studly.

Now that you mention that story, I remember a similar story with a mare at teh stable. I don't remember about a tumor (I was just a child) but I remember there being a mare with very bizarre studdish behavior, I wonder if she had the same thing as the horse you mention. So funny.

[Synchro246]

Originally Posted by mara

A gelding is totally different that a vasectomy'd guy. In a horse they don't jusdt clip the tubes, they totally castrate them. Maybe they can get erections, I don't know, I've never seen a gelding have a hard penis, whenever I've seen them come out they've been soft and floppy./ But I just wanted to pount out that castration is different than what a man human gets when he gets"fixed".

I'm not talking about vasectomies. I'm talking eunuchs and castrati. There are human men on this planet (even in this country) who have have been castrated.
http://www.geocities.com/sherrylanin...onEffects.html

Originally Posted by from the site

I still have occasional nocturnal erections at night, and less often I even have orgasms in my sleep. About half of these are dry orgasms while the others are accompanied by only a small amount of clear fluid. Otherwise I don't feel aroused unless I want to. Many eunuchs also report being in complete control of their sexuality. If I did want to get an erection I could, but it would take more effort. I don't have erections only because I don't want them.

Eunuchs who do remain sexually active usually have sex much less often, but report that when they do it is more special, and some of their spouses feel the same way. Because the eunuch does not arouse so quickly, he can take more time on the foreplay and afterglow.

[orangebird]

So castrated guys still get erections and ejaculate? I had no idea.

[Synchro246]

Yup! Crazy huh?