Healing the Gut Tribe ~ May - Page 11

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by moonshine

Add some frozen berries (I did raspberries yesterday) and it is super yum.

Oooooo... good idea. I also make one with coconut oil and fresh lemon juice, that would be awesome with raspberries!

[EBG]

Originally Posted by Pattyla

Blueberries have tough skins. My dd just recently started digesting them instead of passing them right through. You really should try cooking them, not just heating them. You want to break down the fiber. Also the tomatos need to both be peeled and deseeded as well as cooked.

Have you though about trying the coconut oil? Also what are you doing to help with die off? The pascalite clay is really helping me (when I remember to take it ) I give dd an epsom salt bath daily. Something that will give you liver support too will help with detox. Milk thistle is a classic liver support herb. My guess about the excema getting worse is that it is die off.

Our main issue is candidia and we have seen big improvements (and major die off esp at first) on scd.

Actually I've been off blueberries for about 3 weeks, I just had a little today. I do take coconut oil and also apply it to my skin. This is the most bearable form of topical treatment. I'm taking vitamin C with Quercetin for the histamine reaction. What is pascalite clay, where do you get it? is it mentioned on the WAPF or the enzymestuff website, I remember reading about it somewhere?
I will definitely try the epsom salts. I think milk thistle is illegal. It's been worse since I addeed enzymes but I also had some ezekiel bread, it turns out it has soy!: So I don't know if it's die-off from the enzymes or candida loves soy and grains. But before I started the enzymes I was plateauing for like 2 months.
So you saw improvements even with all the juice and honey? I thought they all feed candida...I'm happy for you and hope I'll get rid of it, too.
I just made the avocado pudding. Hope the almond butter and honey won't make things worse...

[EBG]

JaneS,

How long did it take you guys to get rid of the eczema problem, did you follow only SCD? What enzymes helped the most?
I'm tired of only getting die-off and no improvement... (3 months SCD, 5 months low-carb)

[Pattyla]

Originally Posted by EBG

Actually I've been off blueberries for about 3 weeks, I just had a little today. I do take coconut oil and also apply it to my skin. This is the most bearable form of topical treatment. I'm taking vitamin C with Quercetin for the histamine reaction. What is pascalite clay, where do you get it? is it mentioned on the WAPF or the enzymestuff website, I remember reading about it somewhere?
I will definitely try the epsom salts. I think milk thistle is illegal. It's been worse since I addeed enzymes but I also had some ezekiel bread, it turns out it has soy!: So I don't know if it's die-off from the enzymes or candida loves soy and grains. But before I started the enzymes I was plateauing for like 2 months.
So you saw improvements even with all the juice and honey? I thought they all feed candida...I'm happy for you and hope I'll get rid of it, too.
I just made the avocado pudding. Hope the almond butter and honey won't make things worse...

I'm not sure who here first mentioned the Pascalite. Google it to find where ti buy it. The stuff is awesome!
If milk thistle is illegal I'm getting some illegals then. I'm on something to support my liver and another suppliment to support my gal bladder. My chiro, who is familiar with scd, put me on them to help me detox. They sure helped me cope with die off.
You do realize that ezekiel bread is illegal right?
I try to take it easy on the juice and honey but I also need to make stuff I can stand to eat (and can get into my dd). Her bottom had a constant yeast diaper rash for a year before starting scd. It has been clear for about a month now I would guess (10 weeks on scd I think).
Now that I have started the coconut oil I'm constipated again. I'm sure it is die off again. I have used coconut oil and honey to wash my face for about a year. I have the best looking skin of my life right now although I currently have a ton of clogged pores. I think that is another detox thing for me though. I'm really excited about co and the possibilities.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by artisticat

So I want to order my supplements today. I can't remember if anyone recommended a good brand of selenium or not? What kind do you all take? Also what do you take for your B vitamins?

Ok and one more Question!! JaneS DId you ever find a good natural C that was SCD legal?

I want to order the natural Calm mag, some selenium, B vitamins, and some natural C. Am I forgetting anything?

Thanks

Yes, Amla C, which also has plant tannins I was happy to see. They are one of the things the nasty bacteria that showed up on DS's stool test is sensitive to:
http://www.papanature.com/store/Prod...&pid=PAR-77745

However, check on the tannins. Some people might be sensitive to them. There is also Himalya Amla which I don't know anything about but I do believe there are no fillers added.
http://www.papanature.com/store/Prod...&pid=HIM-40201

I've never found an additive free acerola powder.

Selenium http://www.papanature.com/store/Prod...&pid=SNS-00923
V. imp. to get the selenomethionine one that is yeast free.

I don't use B's. I wonder if Amanda does, she would have a good rec. There is a better kind of B12 but I forget what it is.

You have CLO of course?

I think I might order desiccated liver tablets. Carlson's or Solgar is recommended in EFLF.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by EBG

JaneS,

How long did it take you guys to get rid of the eczema problem, did you follow only SCD? What enzymes helped the most?
I'm tired of only getting die-off and no improvement... (3 months SCD, 5 months low-carb)

Cod liver oil, flax and then evening primrose oil, quercitin and an Elmination Diet before SCD.

I think the type of fats you eat are crucial, have you seen The Eczema Tribe thread?

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by EBG

Anyway, no progress in 3 months.... my daughter is doing great although my DH and MIL feed her all kinds of junk but it's not working for me. I'm thinking the SCD is not aggressive enough for yeast.

Work up on the enzymes and start taking them in between meals.

Revisit the nutrition needed for healing the gut on Cheat Sheet.

I just came across again that vitamin A is essential for the integrity of the epithelial structures of the body (skin and gut lining). Could be something like this too. If you are A deficient just a couple thousand IU is not going to rebuild your stores, go for a couple T. of high vitamin CLO.

Or it could be bacterial like my DS. He's had not much progress on the whole since last Sept. In that case, try a stool test to see exactly what you have and consider herbs or similar type of "killer" treatment.

[JaneS]

Also, consider that SCD is not working and try something else like EFLF plan with coconut oil. Or Jordan Rubin's Maker's Diet with HSOs. Or kefir and kombucha and lacto fermented veggies (also on EFLF).

Believe me I know how frustrating it is! At least you can do more than a child can.

[artisticat]

Hmm. They are out but I can get it at vitacost.com. But they don't have the slelnium. So what about this selenium?

http://www.vitacost.com/NSISelenium/cas-1

[EBG]

Thank you guys....

As for the types of fat, I've been using only butter, coconut oil and some EVOO, no omega 6 oils since December when I went on an LC diet. Then I found SCD in January. Some bad oils are legal, I wonder why... I'm also taking 2 tablespoons of Carlsons CLO, the high vitamin ones don't have enough EFA-s for the price. I did the EPO for about a week but my babe got hives from it. At least I think that was the problem because that was the only thing I added that week and when I stopped, her bumps went away, too. Has anyone had reactions to Evening primrose oil?
I also tried, months ago, the flax/borage combo, which gave ME full body hives. I guess I can't convert the ALA? So I'm only taking CLO for now...

I'll try the enzymes in between-meals. Can I take the same broad spec or should I get the special ones like Candidase?

I'm pretty sure it's Candida as I have other symtoms too embarrassing to discuss

OK, so it looks like I have to be stricter, no sprouted bread (I know it's illegal on SCD but I'm new to NT and just had to have some
and go back to the basics. Plus I'll try the pascalite clay, epsom salts and enzymes...

Baby steps...

[caedmyn]

My super strong probiotics arrived today, so I'm going to re-start SCD with the intro diet and hope the combination of that, the little bit of enzymes that I can take, and the probiotics will have some effect.

Question: when people talk about re-starting the intro diet (if you're already doing fanatical SCD) do they mean starting the whole diet over (ie intro for a bit and then add foods one at a time again) or just do the intro for a bit and then go back to whatever stage you were on, which for me is stage 2.

firefaery--did you take the probiotics before a meal like they recommend? I've read about different times to take them (right before bed for one) and was wondering what you did. And were you taking enzymes at the same time? I've also read they can cancel each other out (or the enzymes can eat some of the probiotics).

[bubbles]

I have a question about undigested food, poops, and babies/toddlers. I know that one symptom of leaky gut can be undigested food in the poop. My 14 mo has this a lot. However I just keep thinking that it is normal when he only has 6 teeth. It seems that whatever he doesn't chew well would come through that way and what is chewed would digest. Is that incorrect? Should a properly functioning digestive system really completely digest all food even if not chewed? He has minor gas that doesn't seem to bother him. His big problem is sleep. I am really grasping at straws to decrease the nightwakings and wondering If I should do SCD with him. I just got the book and it is a major thing to take on if I am not sure he needs it.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by EBG

Thank you guys....

As for the types of fat, I've been using only butter, coconut oil and some EVOO, no omega 6 oils since December when I went on an LC diet. Then I found SCD in January. Some bad oils are legal, I wonder why... I'm also taking 2 tablespoons of Carlsons CLO, the high vitamin ones don't have enough EFA-s for the price. I did the EPO for about a week but my babe got hives from it. At least I think that was the problem because that was the only thing I added that week and when I stopped, her bumps went away, too. Has anyone had reactions to Evening primrose oil?
I also tried, months ago, the flax/borage combo, which gave ME full body hives. I guess I can't convert the ALA? So I'm only taking CLO for now...

I'll try the enzymes in between-meals. Can I take the same broad spec or should I get the special ones like Candidase?

I'm pretty sure it's Candida as I have other symtoms too embarrassing to discuss

OK, so it looks like I have to be stricter, no sprouted bread (I know it's illegal on SCD but I'm new to NT and just had to have some
and go back to the basics. Plus I'll try the pascalite clay, epsom salts and enzymes...

Baby steps...

Definately get some vitamin A. Carlson's makes the natural version from fish liver oil. I don't know this helped my skin for sure, b/c I added so many things to my regime all at once last year, but A is really crucial for skin.

Shanna, you too!

The current recs are 20,000IU of A and 2,000IU vitamin D for either pg/bf or healing. You might want to consider a loading dose too b/c most are deficient if they have not been supplementing and/or eating liver.

See the Yeast/Bacteria link in Cheat Sheet. You want high amoutns of cellulases and proteases for yeast in between meals. Your broad specturm probably won't be effective enough unless you want to take like 5 or something. Candidase would be a good choice.

RE: ALA
Yes, the ability to convert this is key. Also, for reasons which I don't fully understand why... some kids do better with CLO only. And some need the ALA in EPO, this is per Leo Galland's book. I'm sure it has to do with enzymes and the gut since that is involved in the converstion.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by bubbles

I have a question about undigested food, poops, and babies/toddlers. I know that one symptom of leaky gut can be undigested food in the poop. My 14 mo has this a lot. However I just keep thinking that it is normal when he only has 6 teeth. It seems that whatever he doesn't chew well would come through that way and what is chewed would digest. Is that incorrect? Should a properly functioning digestive system really completely digest all food even if not chewed? He has minor gas that doesn't seem to bother him. His big problem is sleep. I am really grasping at straws to decrease the nightwakings and wondering If I should do SCD with him. I just got the book and it is a major thing to take on if I am not sure he needs it.

I agree re: teeth and chewing. How are his stools otherwise? That's another issue that can be influenced by bm and how many solids he's eating too. I can tell you that the poop should start to be firm and brown in second year.

Any other issues that could mean intestinal flora imbalance in you or him? Have you tried CLO, that is great for the central nervous system. (I sound like a CLO Drug Pusher today! )

Gas always bothers my DS, even only a few toots a day. If that happens I know he's uncomfortable and his sleeping is worse. Was same with me as a matter of fact!

[Pattyla]

Ok so after talking about my "dd won't go to sleep" woes someone on another board mentioned that she may have restless leg syndrome. I looked it up. Sounds like me. Of course the two main determining factors are genetics esp if mom had it and low iron (I have low iron and suspect that she does too) Sooo... How can I improve her iron? I'm doing bone broths. I'm doing red meat several times a week. Do I really have to quit my one cup of tea every morning? Is there anything I/we can take? I really should do the raw liver but I'm really not sure where to get grass fed liver. Hmmmm....

I really do think that this co is a key for us, but I'm going mad with lack of sleep.

[Pattyla]

I'm taking 1 tbsp of the clo daily. I'm also nursing dd a ton and trying to heal us both. Could I/should I take more? I'm noticing my skin is having issues right now and am wondering if more clo would clear that up but I'm unsure if it is safe to increas it by much. Thoughts???

[bluets]

hrm... i have restless legs syndrome too but the reading i did suggested a magnesium deficiency...

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/r...tless_legs.htm

[mom2zsel]

Originally Posted by Pattyla

I'm taking 1 tbsp of the clo daily. I'm also nursing dd a ton and trying to heal us both. Could I/should I take more? I'm noticing my skin is having issues right now and am wondering if more clo would clear that up but I'm unsure if it is safe to increas it by much. Thoughts???

Pattyla-which brand of clo? I know the thread went round and round on this recently-but just thought you might share-and save me the search-thanks so much!

My DS is just a few months younger than your DD-terrible sleeper, too! I am always waiting for you to post a great breakthrough on getting a good night s sleep so I can look forward to one as well!!

[bubbles]

Originally Posted by JaneS

I agree re: teeth and chewing. How are his stools otherwise? That's another issue that can be influenced by bm and how many solids he's eating too. I can tell you that the poop should start to be firm and brown in second year.

Any other issues that could mean intestinal flora imbalance in you or him? Have you tried CLO, that is great for the central nervous system. (I sound like a CLO Drug Pusher today! )

Gas always bothers my DS, even only a few toots a day. If that happens I know he's uncomfortable and his sleeping is worse. Was same with me as a matter of fact!

I am still trying to figure out if there are any other signs of imbalance. The poops actually look good otherwise. They are usually firm and brown except when he eats lots of sweet potatoes . The sleep and gas are the ones making me wonder.Oh, another thing that makes me think of it is he had some dairy formula for a few months. I had major milk supply issues and was not able to get bm from anyone else. He also had difficulty w/ dairy in my diet (although he had dairy formula as the soy really scared me) that went away after s few months. Could I have really messed up his system? Like I said, I grasp at anything I come along that says it might affect sleep. I soooo want to figure it out as I am one tired mama. I have recently started him on the Nordic Naturals children's clo capsules. It says they are not for children under 2 but I have been giving him half a dose. It is two capsules a day. I need to look at what that translates too. Maybe you can give me a better idea of how much of them he would need? I was erring on the side of caution to be safe. Thanks so much for all your replies as I pursue this for both ds and myself.

[Pattyla]

I'm doing the blue ice high vitamin stuff. Just ordered a case of it... I just ordered a gallon of co and some other stuff. DH really shouldn't go out for the evening and leave me home alone with my computer... I order in quantity cause it is cheapest that way. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.