Healing the Gut Tribe ~ May - Page 5

[caedmyn]

Can enzymes aggravate DD's eczema? Her eczema flared up (not too bad, though) after I started enzymes again, even going slowly, and now her cheeks have what look like eczema on them, which has never happened before.

[Panserbjorne]

Mother's milk has far too many components to list! Everything in it basically works to heal up the porous gut. It's not just enzymes, mamas milk has probiotics, immunoglobulins etc.

Enzymes are very different from probiotics. Dietary enzymes work to break down food and other debris. THey are found in the saliva, manufactured in several organs, and can be taken as a supplement. Probiotics are the beneficial bacteria that reside in the gut. Both are necessary for health!

[Panserbjorne]

Caedmyn-what you are seeing may be a part of a healing crisis-the body pushing toxins out of the skin. Things often get a bit worse before getting better.

[caedmyn]

Originally Posted by firefaery

Caedmyn-what you are seeing may be a part of a healing crisis-the body pushing toxins out of the skin. Things often get a bit worse before getting better.

I hope that's what it is! I'm sure not seeing any other signs of improvement. Do you think it would make things worse to slowly increase the dose on the enzymes? Or would it be better just to maintain my current dose for a while?

[Panserbjorne]

I wouldn't push it. If it were my kid I'd just maintain at this point. You don't want to make her too uncomfortable.

[~Shanna~]

I'm on day 3 of the intro SCD diet.....and I'm not feeling any different. I know, I know, the healing takes time. But specifically, I'm not feeling like crap like everyone else seems to be on this part of the diet. No symptoms of die-off whatsoever. Should I be concerned? I'm not (knowlingly) taking any food that is illegal, but my supplements are probably not SCD-legal (OmegaZyme, L-Glutamine, Calcium, Fish oil, Zinc, Evening Primrose), but there was absolutely NO room in the budget for me to buy different supplements. I've also been leaning heavily on the fruit juices and fruit juice gelatin that's allowed.

I need a boost of confidence.....

[Annikate]

Shanna, Just MO, but I'd stick w/ water for the bulk of your beverage consumption. Also, die-off is different for everyone. Glad you're feeling good!

[Panserbjorne]

You probably went through a bit of withdrawal already when you eliminated dairy and gluten. You may see more yet! Oh, and I agree that you should really stick with the water. Juice around here was a treat. I never did the jello.

[Kundalini-Mama]

Originally Posted by caedmyn

Does anyone do raw milk yogurt? Why is it illegal? I plan to do raw milk yogurt if I can ever do dairy again...I do raw honey too even if that is not legal. It just seems like it is better to get the benefits of the enzymes that are in the raw forms.

I have no idea why it is illegial. And, IMHO, there is no reason it should be. This is why I'm a huge Rubin fan b/c he actually 'gets' nutrition. Raw milk yogurt, preferably goat, raw honey, etc. No saccharin, of course.

Can you do goat dairy? I absolutely cannot do anything that has anything to do w/cow dairy. I get ill, headaches, snotty nose, cramping--wicked fun. The goat yogurt, I have no problem w/at all.

Oh, and since a lot of us are recovering vegans/vegetarians, I was a vegetarian for 10 yrs and vegan for some of that. All for ethical reasons. I now eat meat. My 4 yr old has been confused, but I explained to him that I still do not like killing animals, it makes me sad and it something I never thought I would have to do. But our bodies aren't getting better and we are suffering, and if eating animals will help us heal, then it is something we need to do--even if we really don't want to. And I was lurking on this thread since---last August maybe--never taking the plunge until the beginning of April as I didn't want to do meat, nor dairy.

I'm feeling great now though--and I never thought I was feeling off.

[Panserbjorne]

Elaine was actually ultra-conservative in alot of her views. The raw milk thing included. I think she would have flipped about the prospect of introducing more "germs" into the system. Jordan Rubin gets nutrition more-mainly because he is a follower of WAP.

[~Shanna~]

Originally Posted by firefaery

You probably went through a bit of withdrawal already when you eliminated dairy and gluten. You may see more yet! Oh, and I agree that you should really stick with the water. Juice around here was a treat. I never did the jello.

Why would I limit these if they're "allowed"? Although admittedly, I forgot to mix the juice half and half with water.......Thanks for the advice though, you're probably right.

Hmmmm, maybe I'll go through to day 5 on intro, just to be sure.

[quelindo]

Originally Posted by Pattyla

I just suck it up and pay for it. I figure to get that much vitamin A I would be taking way more of a lower priced product (and I won't do really cheap fish oil cause I'm nervous about heavy metals).

To go back a day (I'm re-reading, hoping to understand a bit better) -- I had always heard that while pregnant, and presumably, nursing, you should avoid high does of Vitamin A (why I couldn't do Retin-A while pregnant). Is this different somehow?

[Ambercrystal]

it is really comprehensive- fomatting would get totally messed up-

[quelindo]

Originally Posted by JaneS

I don't think probiotic capsules are enough to heal unless you have a lot of money and are able to take a bottle a week or more. I think you need the amounts in homemade kefir/yogurt.

Is there a non-dairy, non-soy product I could eat? I can't do either because of my son's spitting up, and I'd rather not do dairy at all if I could.

[moonshine]

I just made coconut water kefir and coconut cheese. Info is on the here on the body ecology website. It was super yummy. DD1 even would drink the kefir with me in the morning. Course, it didn't last long, so I have to make more.

I also made cashew yogurt and added probiotics to that. That the DDs were not crazy about, but that meant that there was so much more left for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

[Pattyla]

New Mama- Synthetic vitamin a absolutely should be limited in pg but much higher levels of natural vitamin a are fine (per wapf stuff) and very common in traditional cultures. I'm also taking the butter oil which is supposed to raise the levels of vitamin a I can handle even higher. They recomend a dose of 20,000 of vitamin A for nursing/pg.

[CluckyInAZ]

Originally Posted by Pattyla

I made the monstor cookies last night and ate 2. I also tried the co in hot water thing. I had the worst stomach ache overnight. Felt like I was gonna puke for a while. Any guesses as to which one it was? I'm now scared to try either again.

When my husband and I first started coconut oil, I put it in a smoothie, but I did too much to start with. You have to start slow. We both had horrible stomach cramps and spent a lot of time in the bathroom. It is just one of those things you have to go slowly with.

[Panserbjorne]

It does have a good amount of caprylic acid-so you could be killing some yeast with high doses of CO.

Shanna-everything in moderation. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's okay in unlimited quantities (especially to the exclusion of water!) With juice-no added sugar isn't the same as sugar free and that's alot of sugar for your body to handle. I don't do jello because I don't think it's healthy. There's plenty of legal things on SCD I stayed far away from.

New mama-you can make nut based yogurts no problem. I also love coconut kefir and coconut milk yogurt. There are always options!

[bluets]

firefaery, do you know if one can use breastmilk with regular kefir grains? that is, will the grains continue to grow or does it just put them in a maintenance mode?

[~Shanna~]

Originally Posted by firefaery

Shanna-everything in moderation. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's okay in unlimited quantities (especially to the exclusion of water!) With juice-no added sugar isn't the same as sugar free and that's alot of sugar for your body to handle. I don't do jello because I don't think it's healthy. There's plenty of legal things on SCD I stayed far away from.

Sorry if I wasn't clear - my question about water was completely separate from my question about juice and juice gelatin. I'm drinking plenty of water (and not as much juice as you probably think), but I'm just starting to wonder if "6-8 glasses of water a day" as a rule is diluting out my digestion goodness I wondered everyone's responses were so strong....