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post #21 of 815
5/1/06 at 7:27pm
I'm taking NN and plan on continuing for the DHA content. I want a supplemental one for vitamins though. So, I don't think there is one that will do it all unless you want to break your wallet...in theory you could take enough NN to make it work but MAN would that get pricey!

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post #22 of 815
5/1/06 at 7:29pm
Just had to share (because I'm shocked) that my kids just ate (yes, ate) NN CLO capsules. They aren't chewable-but they are as far as they are concerned. I tried and no way was I swallowing that capsule. Very, very odd.
post #23 of 815
5/1/06 at 7:45pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by carnelian
And while we're on the topic of A, I've been reading some things lately that have cautionned against using too much of even natural A. Mainly because of the co-factors. For example it needs the presence of D to prevent toxicity and conversely D needs the presence of A but it's not known why. I realize that the studies Price did involved very large amounts of vitamin A with wonderful results but it's not known what other co-factors and intangibles were involved. CLO has been considered the best way to take in a good amount of properly balanced A & D but if one also consumes organ meats and pastured eggs and butter that's a lot of A even if it's in the form of food.
This is exactly what I was intending to bring up this morning then I got distracted with the kids.

http://www.cspinet.org/nah/

Nutrition Action- is one of my favorite resources and they had some information on this subject in their March news letter.

"Vitamin A acetate or palmitate (retinol). Too much can raise the risk of hip fractures. The tolerable upper intake level- the most you can take without worrying about adverse effects- is 10,000 IU a day, but if you get that much in a multi, whatever you get from foods would put you over the top."

Other issues they cited were liver abnormalities and birth defects. They stated that it would be better to eat more fruits and vegetables like carrots, cantaloupe, sweet potatoes, and braccoli.
post #24 of 815
5/1/06 at 7:55pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by mountain mom
Nordic Naturals says right on the label that it has no synthetic A or D added. I know the A and D are low as far as most of the CLO supplements go but if you add in your diet as well you may find you are close to the recommended amounts. Thats what we found anyway.
The RDAs are notoriously low. The question is how much should we actually be getting?

I take both Blue Ice CLO and a NN fish oil supplementfor the dha epa.

Quote:
Originally Posted by celrae
"Vitamin A acetate or palmitate (retinol). Too much can raise the risk of hip fractures. The tolerable upper intake level- the most you can take without worrying about adverse effects- is 10,000 IU a day, but if you get that much in a multi, whatever you get from foods would put you over the top."
This is typical of the misinformation about A. If D was present the risk of osteoporosis induced hip fractures was no different from the non A supplementing group. More later, family calls.
post #25 of 815
5/1/06 at 8:06pm
firefaery -- can you post their response here?
post #26 of 815
5/1/06 at 8:23pm
Amanda, Yeah-if I hadn't deleted it. It was pretty useless. I'll write to them again though, I'm sure I'll get the same (expletive) response.

RDA's are generally (and correct me if I'm wrong here) the amount you need to not suffer deficiencies. So upper limits aren't really applicable. RDA's were developed in times of war to make sure soldiers were getting what they neded to survive.

Synthetic vitamin A is really a major issue. I have to say the more I read the more disgusted I get with the government and their dietary regs. The last time I heard (from someone here, but the info was consistent with other findings) the conversion rate for carotenoids to vitamin A was like 21:1-so don't count on your carrots or leafy greens for your A.
post #27 of 815
5/1/06 at 8:26pm
ok so now I am even more confused with all that CLO info...lol

Tell me again why beef liver is good for you? I just put some to cook and am totally grossed out..not sure if I will be able to eat it or not..lol Is it supposed to have holes in it?
post #28 of 815
5/1/06 at 8:41pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by carnelian
JaneS have you talked with Carlson's about their oils being 'natural'. This question has come up on a lot of different boards lately and no one seems to be able to get an answer from them. No response to my email on this question which leaves one wondering. However it's an old and very reputable family company with a great history so
No, I'm going by the fact that they state "natural from fish liver oil" on the label. This was last year b/f Mercola got all hot and heavy about them.
post #29 of 815
5/1/06 at 8:45pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by cobluegirl
ok so now I am even more confused with all that CLO info...lol

Tell me again why beef liver is good for you? I just put some to cook and am totally grossed out..not sure if I will be able to eat it or not..lol Is it supposed to have holes in it?
Yes, the holes are normal- slice it thin and cook with onions, it is very good!
post #30 of 815
5/1/06 at 10:34pm

RE: Freezing Raw Milk wih Baking Soda

Ok Everyone. Sorry I took so long to get back with you. Looking thru the messages in my yahoo group they say to put 1/4 ts baking soda per half gallon of milk and shake it up really good before freezing. Apparently this makes the cream globs much smaller and you do not need to even blend after freezing, but can just drink as is. Also someone mentioned an 1/8 ts worked for them so maybe experiment? I might try this tonight since I have to freeze a gallon otherwise I've never frozen milk before HTH.

Stacy
post #31 of 815
5/1/06 at 10:50pm
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post #32 of 815
5/1/06 at 11:29pm
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post #33 of 815
5/1/06 at 11:43pm
I just got my Nourishing Traditions book. Now if I could only find a nice chunk of time to dive in.

Which Nordic Naturals epa/dha sup. do you all take? There are a few to choose from.

You girls might also be interested in these supplements: www.firstorganics.net.
(I used to work for Dr. Maffetone and totally trust any of his products. From what I hear so far about NT, his philosophy is a nice complement.)
post #34 of 815
5/1/06 at 11:50pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by artisticat
Ok Everyone. Sorry I took so long to get back with you. Looking thru the messages in my yahoo group they say to put 1/4 ts baking soda per half gallon of milk and shake it up really good before freezing. Apparently this makes the cream globs much smaller and you do not need to even blend after freezing, but can just drink as is. Also someone mentioned an 1/8 ts worked for them so maybe experiment? I might try this tonight since I have to freeze a gallon otherwise I've never frozen milk before HTH.

Stacy
Hot Da#%! Another use for baking soda
post #35 of 815
5/1/06 at 11:53pm
just wanted to respond to the person that asked about stainless steel pots...
if a magnet sticks to the inside they are safe. if it doesn't it has a high amount of nickle in it and is not considered the best to use.
hth
post #36 of 815
5/2/06 at 12:00am
Hi everyone! I am pretty new to posting here, but have been following NT for almost a year now. I guess it is finally time I jump in to one of these threads .

I was recently at the Vitamin Shoppe to purchase a new bottle of CLO(we were using NN peach flavor, but I wanted to try something new) and was talking to the guy who worked there about which one he took. He said he used carlsons, and when I asked about synthetic vit., he told me that he recently called the company to find out if it was true, and they told him no.

So, now I really don't know what to believe . After reading what you mama's are writing, I am begining to wonder if he was telling me the truth. Any insight would be great! Should I get a new bottle?
post #37 of 815
5/2/06 at 12:06am
Ack! I've been taking the Carlson's (1 tbsp or so/day) and I'm pregnant (8 months). I hope I've been doing the right thing...
post #38 of 815
5/2/06 at 12:11am
Okay posting again about the Carlson's (I just pulled the bottle out of the fridge)... My bottle says the following re Vit A:

Vitamin A: 500 IU to 1200 IU***
Vitamin D: 400 IU

***Naturally occurring variations

That sounds to me like it's not a synthetic. Also, in the ingredients list there is not mention of an artificial vitamin source (like other food products have). Maybe I'm being naive though and missing something else...
post #39 of 815
5/2/06 at 12:18am
if it's not true I wonder why it's no longer on the WAPF website....
post #40 of 815
5/2/06 at 12:19am
Quote:
Originally Posted by firefaery
if it's not true I wonder why it's no longer on the WAPF website....
That is what I wonder.

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