Originally Posted by Heffernhyphen
One word: Intent.
Why do you think we parents who chose to circumsize did so? Because we just got our rocks off hurting our kids?
Or could it be because every medical person we talked to, every childcare person we talked to, every parent we talked to advised us that this temporarily painful act could well prevent more painful conditions, including cancer, in the future. If I'm told that circumsizing him could reduce his chances of getting cancer as an adult and I choose not to do it because of my beliefs, isn't that abusive?
I should apologize now for even entering this conversation. I was skimming through New Posts and saw what seemed to be an interesting thread. I feel like I've opened a door and stumbled into a party where I don't belong, like maybe a fund raiser for george bush. Check please!
Unfortunately, intent is not all that matters.
Do you think that the mothers in Africa who hold their daughters down for the barber's blade do so because they want to hurt their daughters? No. It's because they believe that it's cleaner, they're preventing disease, it's harmless, etc. Hanny Lightfoot-Klein
, the pioneering researcher on female genital mutilation in Africa, points out the similarities in attitudes towards FGM in Africa and routine infant circumcision in America here
. Women who circumcise their daughters intend nothing but the best for them - and yet we do not hesitate to name this harm for what it is.
Also, there are many rapes that occur when the man honestly -- but mistakenly -- believes the woman has consented. He may not intend to rape but he does thinking that the woman has agreed to sex.
I am very sorry if you were misled and/or lied to you by your friends, family, acquaintances, and doctors. The truth is that no medical organization in the world recommends routine infant circumcision to prevent any disease - not cancer, not UTIs, not HIV, not any STD. Nothing. The AAP statement on routine infant circumcision calls it "non-therapeutic" i.e. cosmetic. Mothering
has an excellent set of well-researched, well-documented articles on circumcision. If a doctor told you circumcision prevents cancer - well, he or she was egregiously misinformed. I and most others here hold doctors and other medical professionals as the truly guilty parties in the circumcision of over a million baby boys in this country every year.
If you read my previous posts in this thread, you will know that I have good friends who circed their older son(s) but left or will leave their younger sons intact. When you know better, you do better. When you know better but you circ a second son - well, then, that's where I draw the line. Two wrongs never make a right.