I agree that I wouldn't stop being friends with a Jewish (or any other religion...) mama who felt that she had to circ for religious reasons. There's so much pressure there...
And I can understand that if I had a friend who was told by everyone that it was medically necessary and really couldn't figure out which info was real and whatnot then I could stay friends. BUT it's the "but it's prettier/I think intact penises are weird-looking" argument that gets me. My former friend admitted that she DOESN'T CARE that it's not medically necessary or even recommended. She wants to do it so she can look at her son's pretty penis and so he "will get laid a lot in high school". I informed her that my dh got "laid a lot in high school" by me and he's intact, but she informed me that her son will be the social outcast of the century if he's not mutilated.
She had all the info. Cosmetic surgery for cosmetic surgery's sake on a non-consenting child/infant is wrong. Why doesn't she give him a nose job as well to make sure his nose is "pretty" enough for him to get laid? She might just consider doing that too
Once someone has said that they don't care about the numerous terrible aspects of circ because it's just so much "prettier", I no longer have ANY respect for that person.
If someone was making other decisions that were harmful to her child and made them in that way I would stop respecting them and thus have to stop spending as much time with them...
This is what she said (though not in so many words):
*I know there are bad side effects and that it's unnecessary, but I just LOVE to look at circ'd penises so I'll mutilate my son.
other examples of attitudes toward childrearing that would lose my respect (equal to my "friend's" attitude to circ in my opinion):
*I know that it is bad for my child, but I just LOVE to hear babies scream so I'll let my son CIO all night long!
*I know there are toxic substances in vaxes and that they don't do any good, but those track marks are SO adorable!
*Spanking is a human rights violation, but I think it's fun and much easier than actually trying to teach my child right from wrong (or safe from dangerous) without violence.
It's the admitting that they know it's not good for the child except cosmetically that really gets me. Admitting that it's only because THE PARENTS think it's nicer looking and that because "he won't remember it" that it'll all be just hunky dorey burns me up.
If a parent circ'd before knowing any better, that's cool. If a parent really believed their doctor over me, I think I could understand. BUT someone choosing something painful and irreversible that they agree is unnecessary for purely cosmetic reasons is unconscionable.
sorry for being so long-winded and I hope that all makes sense... Thank you, Quirky for stating what MGM is in such graphic terms. It truly is infant rape and it is the doctors and medical community that are most at fault.
love and peace.