Well, I'm not LBM, but I can relate....
|LBM, I'm curious about your two friends. They're otherwise gentle, loving, caring parents? And they're otherwise kind, empathetic people? And you guys had detailed discussions about the unnecessary cruelty of RIC? How did they justify their decisions to you (if they did?) I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around what could posess an otherwise more or less good person to do such a thing.
Yes, I have 2 friends that fit this bill, with a few exceptions. Friend #1 asked her doctors and called pediatric urological specialists, and was told information that reinforced her concerns about infections, cancer, etc-- the things listed on the AAP statement. She is an amazing person, mother, a wonderful teacher and child advocate. All she wants to do is stay at home with her son, but she hasn't been able to do that, and she is doing everything she can do to do that as soon as possible.
Friend #2 is a pediatrician and does not cosleep because when she was a resident she attended to an infant that died while cosleeping- and that effected her in a way to say, no never for me. As a pediatrician she supports her parents that choose to cosleep, but says that she wouldn't be able to fall asleep herself with her child. And her resolve was tested with this because dd#1 had 'colic'. So she walked around for hours at night with babe in a sling, because her daughter wouldn't stop crying without the movement of the sling too. But she is an amazing mother and a breastfeeding and pro-intact advocate. Unfortunatly, her dh is not on board on circing and if their child is a boy, they might do it. The conversations were stalled because dc#1 was a girl.
So for her, I still have time to ask her more and question it, but I know that she is not 'horrified' by circumcisions and does not consider them abuse. I think she looks at them like 'elective shots' (and yes, I know that no-vax is an extremely valid choice). She probably sees about 50/50 at her practice and I know she did mention that she sometimes saw circ complications/problems for certain practitioners, but did tell me about one of the doctors she knows that does them-a woman she really likes for her gentle manner with patients (yes, quite contradictory, but she made the point that this doctor is very calming to the babies-- other doctors she knows leaves the boys in the circumstraint alone and go on wiht their business, so the babes are hysterical the whole time).
So maybe I can try to ask her about this more and see if it is still open for discussion.
Unfortunatly, in America it is still considered a parent's right to choose this, as much as we here can hate it, that is the truth.
I think I have to reach out to people and get them to understand this issue before I can condemn them for doing something society considers 'normal'. And it IS like many other issues (FGM, foot binding, other atrocities). There are times when these things are/were acceptable. Unfortunatly, we live IN a time where circumcision is acceptable and it is hard to easily break this down when there are many 'facts' out there that seem to put circ and intactness on equal footing.
The AAP statement is horrible for us to fight. I for one wouldn't expect any momma to take my word/advice over the AAP's weak statement that says there are some medical benefits to circ...