Name that lie . . . and other scaremongering stories and quotes from your ped - Page 6

[ChristinaLucia]

So my ped said that we were really lucky to have the Prevnar shot - that they have been giving it to AIDS patients since the 1970s. :

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by ChristinaLucia

So my ped said that we were really lucky to have the Prevnar shot - that they have been giving it to AIDS patients since the 1970s. :

I think he means Pneumovax23 . . . and that was licensed in 1983. And AIDS was first recognized in 1981.

[sapphire_chan]

Originally Posted by LongIsland

"You'll have to bring the baby before visiting hours so that you don't put any of my patients at risk."[/I]

While the reason is stupid, would you want your baby around people who might have just had a vaccine? Yes, getting up early is a pain in the neck, especially with a baby, but you'd be forcing the ped to get up early too and would be guaranteed not having to wait. If I end up with a ped who'll accept non/limited vaccinating, but who makes a fuss about "the other patients" I'll very cheerfully say "I never thought of that, you're right I don't want my baby exposed to them if they've had vaccines that day, to be on the safe side, would you be willing to extend your office hours so I can come in after everyone else has gone home?"

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by sapphire_chan

While the reason is stupid, would you want your baby around people who might have just had a vaccine?

Very true! However, his gesture of studity was being done just for little ole me until we found another pediatrician b/c he knew weren't going to vax according to the schedule. He made the comment after we agreed to part ways after they "fired" me.

I never went back to them after that first post birth visit.

[sunshinestarr]

Oh my.
I just, somehow, read through this entire thread and I'm really sad.
One consistent thing I'm seeing is this looming threat of death that doctors like to scare people with. People are so misinformed..

[ani'smommy]

Originally Posted by EVC

Wait--weren't you the one who wrote that great letter to your ped? And she "fired" you?

(Forgive me if I have you confused with someone else )

That was my letter, but I STILL haven't heard back from my doc. Surprise, surprise. It's funny because I see her all over the place -- she's a friend of my mom's -- and she always acts kind of weird.

[Christine&men]

Okay, not my Pedes but my OBGYN: Vitamin K, eye ointment and Hep B are MANDATORY. Duh, last time I checked we have medical, religous and philosophical exemtpions! Even got the print-out from the CO Dept. of Health...

"We wouldn't be here without vaccines", I let that one go completely. I mean, what, we would be extinct? Maybe not such a bad alternative for mother nature, but somehow we managed to survive...

[Rmeg]

Originally Posted by Deva33mommy

"I've seen babies LOSE LIMBS because they got chicken pox.

Yeah, there are arms and legs scattered all over the place with every outbreak, don't you know...

[Gene]

As a pediatrician, I find it interesting to read these posts. If I had a patient whose parents requested no vaccination (or delayed), I'd be fine with it. My only request would be that they mentioned the lack of vaccinations if/when their child is seen for sick visits (IF OR WHEN). That's only because we are trained to think that common things occur commonly. We tend to dismiss some commonly vaccinated illnesses because we assume that our patient is vaccinated (especially true in the ER where a parent and/or records may not be available).

Herd immunity is an interesting "animal". There are some communities where the rate of vaccination is so low that some diseases seem to be making a comeback. A smallpox outbreak would be a tragic example, as few people under the age of 35-40 received the vaccine (I did, as did DH - we were part of a study) and the immunity of those older has waned. Great study published decades ago, though, suggests that even those vaccinated as much as 80yrs previously had some protection (they got a milder case). And NO, that is NOT supposed to be a scare tactic. The chance of a smallpox outbreak is so small that the risks associated with the vaccine would cause more deaths.

There are risks and benefits to any medical intervention. And, as parents, we are responsible for weighing them for both ourselves and our children. Which way the scale tips is for you do decide.

[chersolly]

Originally Posted by Gene

As a pediatrician, I find it interesting to read these posts. If I had a patient whose parents requested no vaccination (or delayed), I'd be fine with it. My only request would be that they mentioned the lack of vaccinations if/when their child is seen for sick visits (IF OR WHEN). That's only because we are trained to think that common things occur commonly. We tend to dismiss some commonly vaccinated illnesses because we assume that our patient is vaccinated (especially true in the ER where a parent and/or records may not be available).

Herd immunity is an interesting "animal". There are some communities where the rate of vaccination is so low that some diseases seem to be making a comeback. A smallpox outbreak would be a tragic example, as few people under the age of 35-40 received the vaccine (I did, as did DH - we were part of a study) and the immunity of those older has waned. Great study published decades ago, though, suggests that even those vaccinated as much as 80yrs previously had some protection (they got a milder case). And NO, that is NOT supposed to be a scare tactic. The chance of a smallpox outbreak is so small that the risks associated with the vaccine would cause more deaths.

There are risks and benefits to any medical intervention. And, as parents, we are responsible for weighing them for both ourselves and our children. Which way the scale tips is for you do decide.

Dude, why do you have 50 posts of just "test"?

[ERSsmom]

Originally Posted by Gene

As a pediatrician, I find it interesting to read these posts. If I had a patient whose parents requested no vaccination (or delayed), I'd be fine with it. My only request would be that they mentioned the lack of vaccinations if/when their child is seen for sick visits (IF OR WHEN). That's only because we are trained to think that common things occur commonly. We tend to dismiss some commonly vaccinated illnesses because we assume that our patient is vaccinated (especially true in the ER where a parent and/or records may not be available).
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Why would you dismiss some commonly vacciated illnesses? No vaccine is 100% effective.

[jessicaSAR]

Originally Posted by chersolly

Dude, why do you have 50 posts of just "test"?

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[jessicaSAR]

Originally Posted by ERSsmom

Why would you dismiss some commonly vacciated illnesses? No vaccine is 100% effective.

I guess this is why no child ever gets whooping cough, just the new 6-week asthma?

[ERSsmom]

Must be .

[Gene]

Originally Posted by chersolly

Dude, why do you have 50 posts of just "test"?

Dude, because I've been lurking for about a year, joined in October and never posted. So since I have to have 50 posts, I played the game. Mild protest on my part.


When I see a child with a cough, pertussis IS on the list. But it is lower down. We had a huge outbreak of VZV her in February. I swear, I was seeing 3-4 per DAY. And every one of those kids was vaccinated. And I spent hours educating parents that truly, vaccines aren't 100% effective.

[Pinky Tuscadero]

Have to have 50 posts for what? What am I missing?

Suzy

[chersolly]

Originally Posted by Pinky Tuscadero

Have to have 50 posts for what? What am I missing?

Suzy

If you look at the find more posts option, all his posts are 'test'.

[jessicaSAR]

There are only a handful of forums for which you need 50 posts to gain access, and Vaccinations is not one of them. In any case, I don't believe they meant 3 posts and 47 tests.

[ERSsmom]

Originally Posted by Gene

When I see a child with a cough, pertussis IS on the list. But it is lower down. We had a huge outbreak of VZV her in February. I swear, I was seeing 3-4 per DAY. And every one of those kids was vaccinated. And I spent hours educating parents that truly, vaccines aren't 100% effective.

I am still not understanding why you would dismiss some commonly vaccinated illnesses.

[Gene]

Actually, I'm female.

Last summer, there was a rule change made after complaints of trolling in some posts. In order to post/view some threads, you have to be a member for 60 days (no problem) and post 50+ times (problem). I've been on some boards for YEARS and haven't hit 50. I tend not to post often and lurk more. I couldn't find the "increase your post count" thread, so I made my own in the test section. Yes, I'm a real person. No, I'm not a troll (have I said anything trolly?). And those who visit CD'ing sites will recognize my username.

May we get back to the topic at hand now? I like to understand where people are coming from and I don't "meet" many anti-vax parents. It's nice to know y'all's reasoning so that I can better understand it. (Notice I did not say berate you or fire you from my practice)