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post #141 of 666
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Originally Posted by SaraFR
If I recall correctly from when I had just reached 50 posts (about 2 months ago), that 60 days+50 posts gains you access to the forums of spirituality, news and current events and trading post. There might be some others that you can gain access to in NFL with 50+ posts.
I'm sorry to derail this thread, but I have looked at both the MDC rules section and the forum guidelines for Vaccinations, Spirituality, and N & CE. I see nothing about a requirement of 60-day membership and 50 posts in order to participate.

Mods, can you shed some light?
post #142 of 666
"It is not related to vaccines" Dr when my dd developed Steven Johnsons Syndrome 12 hours after getting her 2 month shot. I do give him credit though when he said after her 4 month shot and she again reacted with Steven Johnson's Syndrome in his office "I will never immunize her again it is too dangerous! What is happening to the outside of her body is also happening to the inside!"
post #143 of 666
When I very first started questioning vaxes when my oldest was 15 months old and we moved, the new ped saw that she had not had the chicken pox vax, told me that he just had a patient nearly die of it. I rolled my eyes and told him she wasn't going to get it. After I had my second child and told him I was delaying, and stated my case he left me alone.
post #144 of 666
Well, for the original topic, I've heard plenty - more than I can remember in any detail. It kind blurs into one giant load of crap after a while.

Remember, I started hearing about vaccine damage when I was about 4 years old, and my mother got a swine flu shot...

When she first presented with double vision, neuropathy, and other vague symptoms, she was alternately told that she was lying for attention so should just go home and tend to her husband, tired and needed to rest, and needed a shrink.

When it became undeniable that she was terribly ill, it was anorexia, or other self-inflicted woes.

It was 2 years and 10+ physicians who turned her away before a reserch neurologist took on her case and newly discovered slow-acting chronic GBS. Of course she was 60 lbs. and very near death by then. He confirmed the connection to the vax.

I won't add to the discussion with what I've heard regarding my vax-free DS... It's just like the others here.
post #145 of 666
I will try to find out what the policy is because I don't know. Interesting conversation though. I hope you all had a happy mother's day!
post #146 of 666
I do want to know, though, since we have a willing pedi here...

Why does it seem to escape docs that considering vaccine status when diagnosing skews the findings, not only potentially for that patient, but also for the larger statistics?

Unless that is a desired effect, using vax status is simply incorrect. If that is a desired outcome, then it is unethical.

If there were any long-term, double-blind studies taking place in which the rates of disease were actually being tallied in completely vax-free vs vaxed kids, I'd be all over that, and more than happy to tell. Don't see that being the motivation for that line of questioning though...

How is it that docs can ask about vax status and not wonder why they really need to know?
post #147 of 666
Oh I thought of another couple lies the ped/family doc said "Chemicals cannot make you sick" and "Chiropractors are quacks".
post #148 of 666
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The Trading Post, Talk Amongst Ourselves, Parents As Partners, News & Current Events, and Spirituality are the boards that have restricted access for 50 posts/60 days.
This is what I was told. I will pm Gene and find out if she is having any problems posting in the vax forum and we can see if there is some kind of glitch in the system that needs fixing.
post #149 of 666
Well, we're military. We had a hugely incompetant pediatric practice that we were "assigned" to go to (the only military treatment facility in a 20 mile radius). So, we had "no choice" but this practice.

I avoided the vaccination issue for nine months by simply nodding my head when they told me to go the nurses side to the shot room. I just didn't go to the shot room and no one ever put two and two together.

UNTIL the day I had my husband along with me, and we were waiting on some forms and HE went and stood by the stupid shot room. So, then one of the nurses came up to him, and he had to tell her that we were actually not vaccinating.


So, then I got to have the following conversation with this nurse that including the following points:

That she could report my husband to his active duty commander for refusing to vaccinate.

That if we were stationed in Germany, she would inform the base commander so we could no longer live on base

You know your son is FTT don't you? (which, by the way, was the first mention of FTT EVER with my son. I had been banging my head with this pediatric office for months because *I* knew he wasn't growing properly but they lost his growth chart three times and "we can't take a parent's word for it" when I'd tell them what he previously weighed. But now it was mentioned as if to accuse me of negligent parenting).

Culminating with "I'm glad not all parents are as careless and irresponsible as you are, and the doctor will need to approve this."


I sat there for a good two minutes, after this conversation, trying to decide whether I was going to let this go. And suddenly I sat up and said to myself "I don't have to take this crap, ESPECIALLY from this sorry excuse of a doctor's office." So, I followed Nurse Hilge right into the vaccination room and I let her know the following

a.) You are entitled to your opinion, but I didn't ask for it, so next time keep it yourself.

b.) I don't give a flying leap what you would do if we were in Germany. Last I checked, WE ARE NOT IN GERMANY. Last I checked, neither are you. So, it really doesn't matter WHAT you would do in Germany, now does it? Don't spew useless information at me.

c.) Go ahead and call my husband's active duty commander. Understand that he has no authority over our medical decisions and know that I will pursue you for threatening and violation of our HIPAA rights if you release any medical information about my son.


Long story short, she was quite unrepentant and said if I didn't like her opinion, that was my problem and she was going to report me as a combative patient. And THEN, the doctor came out. We were there to get a health form for our adoption signed for our son. He confirmed my son was healthy and there would be no problems, and he signed the first form BEFORE he knew about our vaccination stuff. Then, when we needed him to sign the second form a day later (after this all came out) he said he couldn't do that because our son was not healthy.

So, I had to make ANOTHER appointment to go in there. I took with me the first sheet he had signed stipulating my son would pose no health risks to an adopted child. Then I looked at him straight in the face and said "You have two choices. EIther you lied the day you signed this form, and said my son was healthy when he was not. In that case you committed medical negligence and I will be following up on that. Or, you are currently lying. In which case I will be following up on that. So, please tell me which is true, so I may figure out which actions I need to take."

He sat there in dead silence for a few minutes, signed our form, and then told us that when we came for future appointments to never see him because "it's obvious we can't work together."


It took two appeals and a whole litany of complaints to finally get permission to seek care with a different practice, and let me tell you, the vaccination issue wasn't even the biggest of my issues with that practice.
post #150 of 666
Our ped told us the KIND of mercury that they put in vaxes wasn't the harmful form of mercury. My mouth just dropped open....
post #151 of 666
well it seem's pretty obvious to me now that a person with only a few posts can post in vax. Welcome to mdc rene!!!

I'm glad you got to ditch that doctor!!!
post #152 of 666
What a story Rene! Way to stick up for your child!!!
post #153 of 666
Here, here, Rene!
post #154 of 666
It's funny that I found this thread because I actually came here to ask a question for my daughter...who we *did* get to bring home and is vaxed and who we are now having issues with *this* practice over. : It never ends. Sigh.

I thought my husband was going to have a heart attack in the doctor's office. He let me take the driver's seat but he was so panicked when I handed him our son and said "HOLD HIM, this is NOT ACCEPTABLE." He saw the look on my face and he just went dead of color "Just try and be nice, try and be nice. Keep calm. Keep calm, o.k." Hell hath no fury like a mother accused by an ignorant nurse
post #155 of 666
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Originally Posted by Bestbirths

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The Trading Post, Talk Amongst Ourselves, Parents As Partners, News & Current Events, and Spirituality are the boards that have restricted access for 50 posts/60 days.
This is what I was told.
But where is this stated on the MDC website?
post #156 of 666
At the very top of the Questions and Suggestions forum. "Forums Requiring 50/60 Criteria for Access"

Vaccinations is not one of those forums.
post #157 of 666
Off-topic:

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Originally Posted by Cynthia Mosher
I looked at her posts and it looks like she has 9 real ones, not 7 as it has been changed to. Just FYI.
post #158 of 666
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Originally Posted by Cynthia Mosher
At the very top of the Questions and Suggestions forum. "Forums Requiring 50/60 Criteria for Access"

Vaccinations is not one of those forums.
Thanks for the clarification, but shouldn't it be in the individual forum guides and/or MDC Rules?

Whoops, guess I'm in the wrong forum to ask that.
post #159 of 666
Well said, Rene!
post #160 of 666
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Originally Posted by aira
Here, here, Rene!
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