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post #161 of 666
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Hell hath no fury like a mother accused by an ignorant nurse
Way to go, Rene! :

I am subject to military medicine, too and just now got approval for DD to go off-base for care. My military ped said that "those studies weren't written by MDs" and that the "ingredients aren't harmful anymore". When I asked him if he had read "Evidence of Harm" or "What Your Doctor Won't Tell You" the first thing he asked was if they were written by MDs. Apparently, MDs are the only people in the world capable of scientific analysis and critical thinking. Oh, and reading, too. I told him to send me as much information as he could about the bene's of vax and guess what? I haven't heard one peep from him since.
post #162 of 666
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Originally Posted by reneandbaby
He saw the look on my face and he just went dead of color "Just try and be nice, try and be nice. Keep calm. Keep calm, o.k."
Too funny! My DH says stuff like that to me too when I get angry at stupid people.
post #163 of 666
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I told him to send me as much information as he could about the bene's of vax and guess what? I haven't heard one peep from him since.
I too have heard many promises of forthcoming proof of the bene's...

Still waiting...


post #164 of 666
This is semi-related...I got into it with a (different) military immunizations clinic (Hi, Rene!) over allowing nursing mothers to breastfeed during the shots. This was well before I started researching vaxes, etc...But I knew that BFing is potent pain control, so I challenged them on it, and was informed that they couldn't do that (insert various illogical reasons here) and to top it off, the baby could aspirate milk and then they'd have to emergency treat a choking infant with a needle hanging out of its leg! Um, hello? Altogether now, can we say "inflammatory and sensationalized?" First of all, if you don't have the presence of mind to pull the needle out at the first sign of distress, I don't want you administering medical care to my child. Secondly, I later presented them with a well-referenced brief (with footnotes - who knew 8th grade English would come back to help me?) on all the good research showing the benefits, with not a single documented case of choking in any research, to include conclusions by a group at Harvard that they could no longer justify using no-pain-control control groups in these studies because they were subjecting infants to pain when there were proven methods of alleviating it, and that BF was the best one. Hello? They're saying they can't justify using for research what moms were being asked to do every day at this clinic. So I get a response from the head of the department (whose wife is an LC - who knew?) and he did some minimal song and dance but actually changed the policy to allow for nursing during shots if you sign this incredibly scary release form, blah blah blah. But hey! I got a policy changed at a hospital! And a military hospital, to boot! (Yay, me.) Okay, off my soapbox...I just thought the whole needle-in-leg thing was ludicrous. Please.
post #165 of 666
But the baby could bite off your nipple while in the throes of pain and you'd bleed to death. Then who would raise your baby ?

That was said to me when I tried to breastfeed while getting dd shots. We ended up not getting any shots that day...and I'm ever so glad for it.
post #166 of 666
Rene!

I don't have an awesome story like that to relate, but I do have classic from DS's 2 month WBV:

The doctor said, "There's a greater chance of your son catching a life threatening disease than having some weird reaction to some vaccine."

So I guess he at least admits that there are some hard to explain, "weird" reactions to vaccines.

Also, when we informed the nurse at the beginning of the appt. that he wasn't having his shots, she told me, "well we use a vaccine that's a combo of (stuff I can't remember, blah blah) so the baby only gets three shots instead of four. Is that okay?"

Me: "Nope."

Nurse: "Oh, okay."
post #167 of 666
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Originally Posted by reneandbaby
It's funny that I found this thread because I actually came here to ask a question for my daughter...who we *did* get to bring home and is vaxed and who we are now having issues with *this* practice over. : It never ends. Sigh.

I thought my husband was going to have a heart attack in the doctor's office. He let me take the driver's seat but he was so panicked when I handed him our son and said "HOLD HIM, this is NOT ACCEPTABLE." He saw the look on my face and he just went dead of color "Just try and be nice, try and be nice. Keep calm. Keep calm, o.k." Hell hath no fury like a mother accused by an ignorant nurse


good for you mama!
post #168 of 666
rofl bonbonne

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Originally Posted by ripcurlgirl26

Also, when we informed the nurse at the beginning of the appt. that he wasn't having his shots, she told me, "well we use a vaccine that's a combo of (stuff I can't remember, blah blah) so the baby only gets three shots instead of four. Is that okay?"

Me: "Nope."

Nurse: "Oh, okay."


oh, it was probably comvax- -hepb and hib in one, instead of 2 seperate ones there.
post #169 of 666
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Originally Posted by ripcurlgirl26

The doctor said, "There's a greater chance of your son catching a life threatening disease than having some weird reaction to some vaccine."

Complete opposite of what the CDC says.

Today, the current number of reports to VAERS exceeds the reported incidence of most vaccine-preventable childhood diseases combined.

ie: you are more likely to have a reaction to the vaccine than contract the disease.
post #170 of 666
This one is from my newly enlightened delay/nonvax friend.
She spoke with her doc about her soon to be born DS2. She told him they would not be vaxing for until 2yrs old and then nothing live virus. He told her that they recommend the Hep B before they leave the hospital. She asked why her son would NEED hep b since she was tested - as well as her DH and would be bfing w/ no daycare. He said that hep b used to be a top cause of death in teens. she responeded .... again why would my newborn need a hep b shot? He said he wanted to have the shot onboard before exposure:
post #171 of 666
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post #172 of 666
I haven't read through all 171 relies to this thread but I did want to add mine.
I talked about CP with my ped. She told me, in a dramatic hushed voice, That if my dd got leukemia when she was older and then caught CP and hadn't been vaccinated it would kill her!!!! She also mentioned necrotizing fascitis (spelling on that one!!!). Big words don't scare me but spelling them does.
They actually had a newspaper article cut out and put on the parents noticeboard about whooping cough outbreaks.
post #173 of 666
At the hospital I gave birth, no one batted an eye when I decline the Hep B shot. But the ped I went to told me I'd be fired from the practice if I didn't vax. So I just never went back. I was also told I was a bad mom for co-sleeping. Blah
post #174 of 666
So in our process of interviewing pediatricians, DF and I came across one doc, who, in an attempt to scare us, stated "I think that this mumps outbreak in Iowa is really giving "misinformed" parents a big reality check. It makes them realize that these diseases are real, and can be extremely dangerous"

I told him that actually the mumps outbreak cemented my decision NOT to vaccinate, as the vast majority of those infected in Iowa were fully vaccinated! Please, and why is it that everyone refers to people who decide not to vaccinate as "misinformed" Like we just wake up and decide one day not to vax for no reason, or read some article on the internet and base our decision on that...idiots!
post #175 of 666
[QUOTE=Jen123]But the baby could bite off your nipple while in the throes of pain and you'd bleed to death. Then who would raise your baby?[QUOTE]

post #176 of 666
Thread Starter 
Dog bites and tetanus lying/scaremongering: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=459846
post #177 of 666
My ped:

Kelly, you're a smart girl. You're a nurse. I'll respect your decision, but I just can't figure out why you're doing this.

Said with true sadness and woe. Every time ds or I go to the office.

And I'm almost positive that if we weren't friends, that he'd have discharged me and ds from the practice.
post #178 of 666
I just got the usual...Your DD will die and is at rick for.....stuff. I had done the research and hit her witht the spread sheet I had done up from CDC mortality statistics and VAERS. She had no response to that...what can you say to the hard numbers? 2 reported deaths from CP vs 6 from the vax + 2674 VAERS reports? I have all the major VPDs and the numbers just don't add up.
post #179 of 666
Soon-to-be approved vaccine can prevent cervical cancer; the question is, are people ready to accept it?

An article in today's Boston Globe about what peds are going to tell the parents of their patients to convince them to get the new HPV vaccine.

Quote:
``What I will probably do is point out that last year alone, more people died of cervical cancer, which was pretty much directly produced by Human Papillomavirus, than were killed in 9/11," said Watson, president of Pediatrics West, a private practice with offices in Concord, Westwood, and Groton. ``People appreciate those sorts of comparisons."
post #180 of 666
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Originally Posted by Castle
Soon-to-be approved vaccine can prevent cervical cancer; the question is, are people ready to accept it?

An article in today's Boston Globe about what peds are going to tell the parents of their patients to convince them to get the new HPV vaccine.
I'm still researching vaccines but this really bothered me.
Quote:
``I'll probably focus on the fact that the vaccine prevents cervical cancer in my sell, and not on the fact that this prevents a sexually transmitted disease," said Dr. Joseph Hagan , a Burlington, Vt., pediatrician active inthem. the American Academy of Pediatrics. ``You know why? Because my Dad sold insurance, and I know what to emphasize and what not to emphasize."
Now, back to the scaremongering...
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