Name that lie . . . and other scaremongering stories and quotes from your ped - Page 4

[spero]

Originally Posted by dingogirl

"The doctor said "You've just got to understand, by mass vaccinating we are saving so many, but there are going to be LOSSES. Your son is one of them, and you just need to accept it."

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Geez, a dagger straight through her heart would have been kinder.

[Persephone]

Today, I was told my three month old unvaxed baby could die from measels, or die in 24 hours from menigitis. Measels doesn't scare me any more than chicken pox does, but meningitis is scary to me, and I don't know that much about it, so I think I'll do more research.

[Jen123]

LOL your three month old is too young for the shot. Do these people just not think before they speak ? Or do they really believe the lies they tell ?

[spero]

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Menactra is only indicated for ages 11 and up (so far ).

[crazy_eights]

Response of clinic nurse when I told her that family doctor had recommended we discontinue DPT with my son who had 104.5 fever and screamed for 24 hours afterward "Oh, that's considered a normal reaction. Only if the fever is over 105 or they scream for 48 hours is it a problem."

The funniest part? The clinic doctor got wind of all this (nurse went out to talk to him) and then said he refused to vaccinate my son. However, they wanted me to sign something saying I refused to have him vaccinated. I said, "But you just said you refuse to vaccinate him. Why do I have to sign this?" "In case he ever get's the disease, we have to prove that you refused" "Wait - my doctor said not to give it and you are refusing to vaccinate him, why am I signing this?" Doctor (deep sigh) "Fine, just bring in a doctor's note saying we shouldn't vaccinate him." [this happend in Israel btw]

My favorite was the school nurse here in the US to a friend (married to an MD no less) who was selectively vaccinating 'No, you have to give all the recommended vaccinations or you have to homeschool. There is no exemption in our state.' To which my friend replied 'You are not going to convince me that "Chava X" [me!] gave these "farkakta" vaccinations to her kids and she's got her kids enroled here! There has to be an exemption.' To which the nurse beat a hasty retreat saying 'Well, I can't tell you what Mrs. X is doing, but I'll get you the forms for the exemption ....[which they had right in the school office!]'

[LadyButler]

Originally Posted by mom2seven

Response of clinic nurse when I told her that family doctor had recommended we discontinue DPT with my son who had 104.5 fever and screamed for 24 hours afterward "Oh, that's considered a normal reaction. Only if the fever is over 105 or they scream for 48 hours is it a problem."

The funniest part? The clinic doctor got wind of all this (nurse went out to talk to him) and then said he refused to vaccinate my son. However, they wanted me to sign something saying I refused to have him vaccinated. I said, "But you just said you refuse to vaccinate him. Why do I have to sign this?" "In case he ever get's the disease, we have to prove that you refused" "Wait - my doctor said not to give it and you are refusing to vaccinate him, why am I signing this?" Doctor (deep sigh) "Fine, just bring in a doctor's note saying we shouldn't vaccinate him." [this happend in Israel btw]

My favorite was the school nurse here in the US to a friend (married to an MD no less) who was selectively vaccinating 'No, you have to give all the recommended vaccinations or you have to homeschool. There is no exemption in our state.' To which my friend replied 'You are not going to convince me that "Chava X" [me!] gave these "farkakta" vaccinations to her kids and she's got her kids enroled here! There has to be an exemption.' To which the nurse beat a hasty retreat saying 'Well, I can't tell you what Mrs. X is doing, but I'll get you the forms for the exemption ....[which they had right in the school office!]'

I just LOVE it when they get caught in their own lies!!!!

[dingogirl]

One more from the mother I mentioned earlier:

(At the hospital) The first thing they asked us was "Is he up to date on his vaccines?" I told the lady "no," and that he had a medical exemption. She pulled us aside and whispered that she understood, but we needed to be quiet because she could lose her job if they knew what she was about to tell us. She was a young D.O. I guess she was getting extra hours working in the emergency room. She said she had seen a lot of kids with post-vaccinal problems, but she said, "They don't take kindly to to that kind of talk around here..."

[mom2tig99Nroo03]

"The doctor said "You've just got to understand, by mass vaccinating we are saving so many, but there are going to be LOSSES. Your son is one of them, and you just need to accept it."

[mamaverdi]

Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara

Me. "You are just a GP who went to med school, did three hours of nutrition, five on immunisation, and weren't taught how to diagnose diphtheria because you don't need to know how because there is a vaccine. So exactly how much do you know?"

to that GP.

[mamaverdi]

Wow these stories are sad, shocking, and hilarious in some cases.

Your child will not start to gain weight unless you vaccinate him.

Chicken pox are atypical in the vaccinated child. (This child is not vaccinated.)

Resident: Why has your child not been vaccinated at all?!
Me: He has been sick his entire life so far. He runs fevers at least once a week. Neither my doctor nor I felt comfortable vaccinating him.
Resident (in Infectious Disease): Fevers are not a contraindication for vaccination.
Me: The manufacturer states that it is on their insert.
Resident: Hmph.

Vaccines work like homeopathy. You haven't been reading that Mothering Magazine have you?

[crazy_eights]

Ah, that reminds me of another one -

me: "I won't give a vaccination while my child is ill"

ped: "that's not a contraindication"

me: "the manufacturer says it is"

ped: "oh, they just say that to cover themselves!"

Current pediatrician never says a word to me about vaccinations, but tells my dh horror stories about people with no risk factors catching hep B and dying (dh jokes about it already. when I tell him it's his turn to take a kid to the doctor he says "am I going to have to hear that story about the guy who died of hep B and left a wife and two kids again?".) Or perfectly healthy children who dropped dead (or were permanently disfigured or brain injured) from Chicken Pox when he was a resident ("before we had a vaccine"). Or.... you get the picture. I think he's afraid of me and that's why he never says anything!

[blessed]

Originally Posted by dingogirl

"The doctor said "You've just got to understand, by mass vaccinating we are saving so many, but there are going to be LOSSES. Your son is one of them, and you just need to accept it."

This is actually a common idea discussed by pediatricians when speaking about vaccinations to each other. They do accept that some children are damaged and killed by vaccines, but - hey, s*** happens.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

But when it's a child in their own practice, then its a coincidence Blessed.

[mamaverdi]

"I accept that my child will die eventually. We all will. I'm still not vaccinating today." said to the nurse who was harassing me to vaccinate my child who had....drummmm roooollllll please..... just come out of major abdominal surgery.

The baby's urologist was right there. The nurse says to him, "What do you think doctor? Shouldn't she vaccinate this child?" The doctor was so courteous, said, "If you do that, don't babies usually run a fever? If he runs a fever, how will we know if it's from the vaccine or the surgery? Then you're gonna be calling me at my house asking me to come in and see if he has an infection, aren't you?" Nurse, "well, yes." Doctor, "Well then...?" Nurse walks out of the room without answering.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Well, he was nice.

[mamaverdi]

He's a nice guy and highly skilled. She was a lunatic that nurse.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Like your sig says. You can't fool all the people all the time. The simple majority won that day...

[mamaverdi]

I my sig.

[Mavournin]

Originally Posted by jessicaSAR

Doc: (Here's the clincher) "We don't see those types of children in the Ct suburbs, only in the inner cities, so we do not need to know medical history before vaccinating."

Oh that just ticks me off.


Mostly my idiot pediatrician has left me alone about vaccines. Probably because we only go in when the kids are really ill. I quit doing well-baby visits after Ds's 9 mo. appointment when the ped tried to convince me that my baby had shrunk and wasn't gaining weight and was small (he was 20 lbs) and that I should switch to formula.... But I digress...

[guestmama9924]

"you are putting the immunocompromised at risk with your children not being vax'd"- health department lady when I went to get my religious exemption