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post #81 of 666
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingogirl
From a mother on another board:
"The doctor said "You've just got to understand, by mass vaccinating we are saving so many, but there are going to be LOSSES. Your son is one of them, and you just need to accept it."
Each time I think of this statement I am horrified all over again. That must be the most insensitive thing that could EVER have been said to that parent.
post #82 of 666
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeysMama
"you are putting the immunocompromised at risk with your children not being vax'd"- health department lady when I went to get my religious exemption

I forgot about the Florida DOH! Florida mamas - please put in your favorite quotes.
post #83 of 666
Quote:
Originally Posted by LongIsland
I forgot about the Florida DOH! Florida mamas - please put in your favorite quotes.
Okay - I'll bite!

"There is a mumps epidemic in Florida right now!"
Said to me earlier this week by the director of the health clinic who was giving me a hard time about obtaining a religious exemption. For the record, Florida has reported less than 5 cases of mumps this year to date. And the Fla. Dept. of Health has deemed that this number is to be expected given that we see about 10 cases of mumps reported in Fla. annually. You'd think that the director of the friggin' clinic would know that so either she's damned ignorant or a blatant liar. Either way...
post #84 of 666
At 2-month WBV I (naively) asked the ped what his opinion was on vaxes. In the course of the conversation he said this (all this was after small talk at the beginning of the visit about Easter, etc.): "So, you're going to Ohio for Easter in 2 weeks? Well, it's much colder there and there is the definitely possibility ds will get pertussis."

He also said something about 15 or 20 years ago having "several" children from his practice die every year from Hib.

At the 6-month WBV same practice, different ped: "If [ds] gets pertussis, he'll die. If he gets tetanus, he'll die. If he gets diptheria, he'll die"
Me: "So, what if he has a reaction? My niece was extremely tired and ran a fever for 3 or 4 days after both her 2-month and 4-month shots."
Him: "She must have picked something up at the doctor's office. Ds will not have a reaction to his vaccines. Trust me. I would never do anything to hurt your child." (And after he said that I began to doubt myself and ds ended up getting a couple shots, had a "mild" reaction to Prevnar and we have not vaccinated at all since and never will again.)

We have since left that practice. Well... during the times I was asking questions it was made clear to me we wouldn't be welcome there if we didn't vax on schedule. We have found a really great, supportive family dr. which I'm really thankful for.
post #85 of 666
Quote:
Originally Posted by judesmama
"So, you're going to Ohio for Easter in 2 weeks? Well, it's much colder there and there is the definitely possibility ds will get pertussis."
The heck? I know that pertussis can happen at any time, but even the CDC's pink book pegs summer/fall, not spring, as the peak time. A big, fat thumbs-down to that doc.
post #86 of 666
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirte
The heck? I know that pertussis can happen at any time, but even the CDC's pink book pegs summer/fall, not spring, as the peak time. A big, fat thumbs-down to that doc.
I know! Isn't that nuts? It really just blows me away what some of these "educated" MDs will say.
post #87 of 666
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingogirl
One more from the mother I mentioned earlier:

(At the hospital) The first thing they asked us was "Is he up to date on his vaccines?" I told the lady "no," and that he had a medical exemption. She pulled us aside and whispered that she understood, but we needed to be quiet because she could lose her job if they knew what she was about to tell us. She was a young D.O. I guess she was getting extra hours working in the emergency room. She said she had seen a lot of kids with post-vaccinal problems, but she said, "They don't take kindly to to that kind of talk around here..."
I took my middle son to the ER after his first DTaP at two months, running a very high fever and being lethargic. I was breastfeeding him, and the doctors were completely confused as to why he was so sick. I mention he got his shots, and they told me that it was "impossible" that this could be related to his shots. They did every test under the sun. We ended up staying in the hospital for three days and his dx was "fever of undetermined origin." : His ped said, "Well, I would have thought it was a reaction, but since you didn't bring him to me, I have to go off of the other doctor's opinion." AND THEN, on a yahoo group here locally there was a doctor, and she told me that there are absolutely no side effects to the DTaP!! I immediately started taking him to my own doctor, who is a FP and is great.
post #88 of 666
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilsishomemade
I took my middle son to the ER after his first DTaP at two months, running a very high fever and being lethargic.
Easy for me to say in hindsight here, but I would have insisted on a VAERS report.
Glad you baby is ok.
post #89 of 666
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeysMama
Easy for me to say in hindsight here, but I would have insisted on a VAERS report.
Glad you baby is ok.
At first, it wasn't reported, and I didn't realize I could report it myself. But, I was asking my current doctor (who was very upset about this when I switched my boys over to him) and reporting, and he has! He's not anti-vax, but he's very parent friendly, and really does listen to a mother's intuition. I'm going to hate moving...
post #90 of 666
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Originally Posted by mamaverdi
"I accept that my child will die eventually. We all will. I'm still not vaccinating today." said to the nurse who was harassing me to vaccinate my child who had....drummmm roooollllll please..... just come out of major abdominal surgery.

The baby's urologist was right there. The nurse says to him, "What do you think doctor? Shouldn't she vaccinate this child?" The doctor was so courteous, said, "If you do that, don't babies usually run a fever? If he runs a fever, how will we know if it's from the vaccine or the surgery? Then you're gonna be calling me at my house asking me to come in and see if he has an infection, aren't you?" Nurse, "well, yes." Doctor, "Well then...?" Nurse walks out of the room without answering.
at the nurse.
for that dr
post #91 of 666
A CLASSIC from one ped in regards to my daughters lack of vaccines (she's had 2):

HIM - "I see here that she's not up to date on her vaccinations."

ME - "That's because our other children have had reactions to their shots and we are going much slower with this one."

HIM - "Well if you knew how vaccines WORKED you would keep her on the recommended schedule."

ME - "Um, acutally my husband is a molecular and cellular biologist and we're quite sure we know how they work."

DICK.
post #92 of 666
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesky74
A CLASSIC from one ped in regards to my daughters lack of vaccines (she's had 2):

HIM - "I see here that she's not up to date on her vaccinations."

ME - "That's because our other children have had reactions to their shots and we are going much slower with this one."

HIM - "Well if you knew how vaccines WORKED you would keep her on the recommended schedule."

ME - "Um, acutally my husband is a molecular and cellular biologist and we're quite sure we know how they work."

DICK.
Bluesky74 and Dh: 1
Dicktor: 0
post #93 of 666
This is what happened to my daughter.

Her daughter was born in 99. She started taking her to the local pediatric practice. Didn't much like the doctor, but there was no other pediatric practice and at that time she felt the need for regular visits.

At the two month visit dd told the doctor she wasn't going to vax the baby. The doctor started to tell her there was a whooping cough epidemic in Vermont. DD asked some questions. Turned out that a)the "epidemic" was 30 cases and b)the cases were all in teenagers whose vax had stopped working.

Dd and daughter were kicked out of the practice at six months. Fortunately there was a new family practitioner just starting up who was delighted to take them on. He is not alternative himself, but is perfectly comfortable with providing a diagnosis and letting my daughter go with her own idea of best treatment.

One other bit: they got to skip the four months visit--apparently that one is really just for vaxing.

And no, neither of my grandkids have caught whooping cough to date (knock on wood).

Deborah
post #94 of 666
My almost 2 yr old at the time was running a very low fever (100.1) and had a febrile seizure. I took him to the ER at the best children's hospital in South Texas. A student dr. (not sure how many years) noticed on his chart that he was not immunized. When she looked him over she found 3 or 4 bug bites. She brought in the dr. and they looked over my son again. The dr. looked at her and said "NO! Those aren't measles!" I almost busted out laughing!!

Another incident at the same hospital w/ my almost 1 yr old at the time. I took her in because she was vomiting. About 10 times in less than an hour. I was very concerned. I didn't mention anything about vax to the triage nurse, but the dr. asked if she was up to date. I just stated "we don't immunize". He got so huffy puffy after that. Told me I was CRAZY and that one day she was going to get a cut and the wound would need to be injected...blah blah blah.

I have also been told that we could not be patients in a particular practice. I took my dd in for a specific reason so that I could discuss my options w/ the dr. He asked aobut immunization. Again I just said we don't. He offered right then and there to start her shots. I declined. He went ahead and looked over her and the problem I was concerned about. He then went on to do a through check. When he looked in her ears he said something like "those are the BEST looking ears I have seen in months" Well DUH! She is HEALTHY despite being on the verge of death from not being vaxed.

I did have a pleasant experience recently. I took my 4 yr old in and the dr mentioned that she was due for her shots. I told him we didn't immunize and all he said was OK. Didn't even turn to look at me, which was probably good because my chin was on the floor in disbelief. I was expecting to have to defend my choices and even had the kids exemption forms w/ me just in case.
post #95 of 666
I havent read the whole thread yet....but I wanted to post what our family dr (nurse practitioner) recently told me

"You know they debunked the whole autism thing"

I wanna know who "they" are and what kind of magic powers they have.....
post #96 of 666
Quote:
Originally Posted by LongIsland
I forgot about the Florida DOH! Florida mamas - please put in your favorite quotes.
Fl mama here. My pedi kept telling me to go the the pertussis.com web site and "then you'll want the vax". Well, that site is the BIGGEST fear mongering thing I ever saw. On the front page it has a bunch of parents of young babies (<2mo) who had pertussis and died. Hmmm what does that have to do with vaxing? Those babies couldn't have been vaxed in the first place. A few stories of people who went thru tragedy does not change the overall death rate (which I know is low, but I don't have an exact number handy. All I have handy is that before the vax only 100 people died every year and almost everybody had it at some point in their lives- and the mortality is 20X higher in ADULTS).

You wanna know something funny- AFTER I caved to receive one shot My son and I got an illness that was very pertussis like and may have been pertussis. I broke a rib.
post #97 of 666
A bit OT. This is not from a ped, but a chairperson from the International Post-Polio Task Force. How can he make such an irresponsible statement?

Quote:
Unfortunately polio, although forgotten, is still present in the United States, too. Last year, five unvaccinated Minnesota children and one Arizona adult developed polio. They are the canaries in the mine shaft.
post #98 of 666
Thread Starter 
Unfortunately polio, although forgotten, is still present in the United States, too. Last year, five unvaccinated Minnesota children and one Arizona adult developed polio. They are the canaries in the mine shaft.

Whoa! Did I just read that right?

He's citing vaccine-derived polio cases in order to promote vaccination?
post #99 of 666
[QUOTE=judesmama]
He also said something about 15 or 20 years ago having "several" children from his practice die every year from Hib.

At the 6-month WBV same practice, different ped: "If [ds] gets pertussis, he'll die. If he gets tetanus, he'll die. If he gets diptheria, he'll die"
QUOTE]

About the Hib- for his statement to be true - we'll define "several" as three, and considering that 1 out of 20 cases ends in death he would have had to have 60 cases. I think that claim is plausable(if he were measuring over a few year period and happened to be unlucky enough to get a string of cases)

BUT what KILLS me (no pun intended) is that he said if he gets any one of the D, T or P he'll die. The death rates from those are <5-10% for Diptheria, ~12% for Tetanus, and almost nobody dies from pertussis. Give me a break Doc. I didn't fall off the statistic truck yesterday. I can't believe he straight lied like that.
post #100 of 666
Subbing.My ped said "we don't force anyone to vaccinate." I can tell by some of the things he says and the looks I get that he thinks I'm one of "those moms," but he never presses the issue.
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