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loved the new Mothering issue article on baby buckets

post #1 of 37
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Entitled "Car Seats Are For Cars." I totally agree. When I was pg with ds, I did a lot lot LOT of research on carseats, and the pros and cons of a convertible carseat versus a baby bucket (travel system). I have to say I am so glad we never got one of those travel systems. Health and bonding benefits for your baby aside, using a baby carrier is just a thousand times more CONVENIENT. My hands are free to do what I need, my baby is warm and close to me, and happy. Every time I see a baby screaming/crying in a baby seat in a stroller or shopping cart, I'm so tempted to tell that mom how much easier it would be to use a soft carrier.

Those carseats are HEAVY. I have carried friends' before, and my arm freaking HURT. When people commented on how "heavy" ds was when he was little to be carried around in the bjorn or sling or whatever, I always thought, "dude...that carseat weighs about 3x what my baby weighs...are you insane?"

Babywearing is great for mom and baby, of course, but if it's ever going to be a "mainstream" thing, people need to understand how much EASIER it is to do than lugging around one of those baby buckets.

Anyway, great article.
post #2 of 37
I don't like seeing people lug around kids who are awake in them (although in the scheme of things, this is pretty low on the totem pole of what I get worked up about).

However, I do think the car seat has a place and serves a purpose (outside its intended one, that is). There is no way I would ever have woken a sleeping baby by taking him out of the carseat once he'd fallen asleep. The ability to transfer them into the house without disturbing them, and then to be able to snooze on the couch myself, was priceless.
post #3 of 37
I agree that it would be great if babywearing would be more mainstream, but I also think that 'baby buckets' have their uses outside of being just a carseat.

I don't think anyone could pay me enough to wake my son when he's sleeping just to transfer him out of his carseat to a carrier. It is WAY easier to pop his seat into the stroller and off we go. I can tell you that for babies who are not all too happy about being woken up, this is a great option.

Also, for me personally, I have pretty limited options as to baby carriers. I have a Snuggli carrier that we use from time to time but Evan is uncomfy in it, so we don't use it for long outings. I live in a town where it's IMPOSSIBLE to find any other carriers, and I'm waiting for my next trip out to the next city to us so I can buy a wrap carrier. So for the time being, using the baby bucket sure beats carrying him in my arms when we go run errands.

The travel system is convenient and has some good uses. But it can also be abused - like everything, balance is key.
post #4 of 37
: I wouldn't wake my son up for all the money in the world...plus...January? Iowa? Yeah...it's cold. I liked the little cover deal so I didn't have to put 3 layers on him just for the trip from the car to the wherever.

But I do agree, just as soon as we were inside he would out of the bucket an held, always.
post #5 of 37
I agree with you Finch! I'm always surprised at how vehemently I've seen buckets defended here on motheringdotcommune, so it sure was good to see an article summarizing the research.
post #6 of 37
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I don't think buckets themselves are evil, but overusing them is prevalent. The article perfectly illustrates how overused they are.

As for not waking the baby, well, that was a factor we considered and decided that ds would adjust to being awakened as he was taken out of his carseat and eventually fall asleep in the carrier. Which he did. Car-napping ruins his naps anyway, so we try to avoid it unless we're going on a long trip. We're super cheap, and the thought of paying for a travel system and THEN paying for ANOTHER carseat when he outgrew the bucket was just too much for my thrifty little wallet to handle. LOL.

Anyhoo, I really liked the article. I was glad they addressed the issue.
post #7 of 37
I also loved the article! It bugs me no end in places like my LLL meeting, fer crying out loud, to see these AWAKE and ALERT babies being rocked in their carseats!

I also have two kids who hated the car so much that they never napped in their seats anyway. And no way would they tolerate being in the bucket while awake. Good thing I only bought the cheapo snap-n-go - it only got used 3 times!
post #8 of 37
Maybe a dumb ? but can we read the articles online?
I should just subscribe to the dang magazine, I can never find it anywhere in my hick town...I'd like to read it actually.
post #9 of 37
my baby stays awake in her seat a lot anyway. but when she is tired I do hate to take her out of it. of course she useually will just fall asleep in the wrap in a min anyway so it works out. I think though that if the seat werent moving even if she were asleep she would wake up anyway. she needs to either be touching me or moving (or prefrably both) to sleep. I think she is a light sleeper too. and for me it would be annoying to take her out in the bucket, and then have her wake up 5 min later wanting to nurse and then be stuck with the bucket. So if I had one I would prolly only have her in it in the car and in the house if she was asleep when I got home.

EvansMomma-its easy enough to make a wrap. cheaper too. one of my favorites is just 5yds of crinkle cotton gauze I got at walmart from the $1 table. not to mention all the resources there are online. I got my rs from my midwives. everything else was either homemade or bought online.

I agree with you Quirky, its like the only time those babies leave the carseat is to bf! at least thats better then a lot of ff babies I've seen...
post #10 of 37
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Originally Posted by Finch
We're super cheap, and the thought of paying for a travel system and THEN paying for ANOTHER carseat when he outgrew the bucket was just too much for my thrifty little wallet to handle. LOL.
Especially when they outgrow it so fast! My DS is barely 2 months and we need to move him into the convertible seat already; he's too long and almost passing the weight limit already! The only reason we even have the infant seat is because the IL's insisted on getting it for us when we had DD. So, since they were paying, we said fine.

I have found it to be handy though because he sleeps so much better when we're out. I wear him most of the time, but it's nice to be able to leave him in it once in awhile (like if we're stopping to eat somewhere).
post #11 of 37
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Originally Posted by zinemama
I don't like seeing people lug around kids who are awake in them (although in the scheme of things, this is pretty low on the totem pole of what I get worked up about).

However, I do think the car seat has a place and serves a purpose (outside its intended one, that is). There is no way I would ever have woken a sleeping baby by taking him out of the carseat once he'd fallen asleep. The ability to transfer them into the house without disturbing them, and then to be able to snooze on the couch myself, was priceless.
I completely agree, or who wants to stand in the pouring rain while the take their baby in and out of the car seat? I have to do that now and it stinks

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Maybe a dumb ? but can we read the articles online?
I should just subscribe to the dang magazine,
I think you have to subscribe to read the articles. I did but cancelled it after I got my first mag, I wasn't too impressed with all the advertisments
post #12 of 37
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I have pretty limited options as to baby carriers. I have a Snuggli carrier that we use from time to time but Evan is uncomfy in it, so we don't use it for long outings. I live in a town where it's IMPOSSIBLE to find any other carriers, and I'm waiting for my next trip out to the next city to us so I can buy a wrap carrier.
The options here are pretty limited too. I have either made my carriers or bought them online. Many are made by WAH parents. To me it is worth it to support them in their quest to be home with their DC.
post #13 of 37
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Originally Posted by afishwithabike
The options here are pretty limited too. I have either made my carriers or bought them online. Many are made by WAH parents. To me it is worth it to support them in their quest to be home with their DC.
yeah the lady I'm buying our wrap from, is a WAH mama who does in home consults to help you find the right carrier, and get used to using it...i'm pretty excited...i wanted to find a WAHM because i think also that its a good thing to support mamas who want to find a way to be at home while still earning a buck!
post #14 of 37
My ds was born 10 and a half pounds, so within a few weeks carrying him + the bucket would have sent me to the chiropractor. I think that made me realize the nonsense of the whole system. I used it some with dd, who was smaller. But I didn't realize the whole separation issue then, I just did it because that's what everyone I knew did. Thanks to mags like mothering, I learned another way and now exclusively babywear when out.

Just to add another perspective on the sleeping baby in seat topic, I almost always transfer ds to me when he is asleep in the seat because I want him to be used to that. So far transfering works well. He opens one eye and goes right back out.
post #15 of 37
I liked using my bucket carseat, ds ALWAYS fell asleep in the car..... and there was noooooo way I was going to wake him to transfer him to the sling for shopping etc, I loved the conveniance of carrying in it and putting it on the cart. I never had a travel system, I had/have a stroller, and put him IN the stroller, not the car seat on the stroller. I would carry him when he wanted to be held/carryed. There were many times I walked around the store with him in my arms and the bucket seat on the cart. Unfortunatly, hes never really liked his sling, and yes, I tryed more than one type and position. Hes slowly coming around to it now that he can sit on my hip and look around. Although its kind of uncomfortable for me now, since hes 23lbs and likes to be carried high lol. We use his stroller alot now, he loves it, he gets to sit up and look around....and eat the stroller (new habit).
post #16 of 37
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I have ordered every single one of my carriers (I have a maya wrap, an ergo, a backpack, and a bjorn) online. Cheaper, and I would never be able to find what I wanted in a store here. God bless the internet.
post #17 of 37
I don't keep dd in her seat when she's awake, EXCEPT for one thing. when we go out to eat. in that case, it's been cool to have it b/c she's in a stage where she's too small (very small for her age) for the restaurant high chairs, and too big to hold while eating (reaches for everything constantly). so she's perfectly content to chill out in her carseat with a few toys while we eat.
also for when it's pouring rain, it's nice to snap her into the stroller and use the cover on the carseat + the cover on the stroller to completely shelter her from the rain. I'm not an umbrella person and it's always awkward trying to close my jacket around her to keep her warm & dry.

so yeah I'm still glad we got the travel system even though 95% of the time she goes from the seat to being worn.
post #18 of 37
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Originally Posted by rzberrymom
I agree with you Finch! I'm always surprised at how vehemently I've seen buckets defended here on motheringdotcommune, so it sure was good to see an article summarizing the research.
ME TOO!!!

I never carried a bucket in an out of the car - I transfered my kids to a sling or just in arms sleeping, in pouring rain, freezing cold. It is possible. With babe in sling, they would fall back to sleep, be warm dry and cozy, and I had both hands free to tend to other kids, carry bags, etc. Much easier than a bucket , imo.
post #19 of 37
I was glad to see that article too. When I was pregnant and paying a lot more attention to babies and the accoutrements, I was feeling very wary of those buckets. I thought they looked uncomfortable to hold and thought the babies looked lonely! Despite my misgivings, we had one given to us, and we used it (b/c we couldnt afford to buy a different carseat). And I never carried it around on its own, b/c damn that thing was heavy! Although, I will absolutely admit to transferring the carrier to a little snapin stroller when dd was sleeping occassionally, or bringing her in the house in it while she was sleeping.
I agree though, moderation is key, the item itself isnt evil, just the overuse of it. It seems that the standard is for babies in those things the majority of the time though. Poor things are probably just begging for a little skin to skin contact.
post #20 of 37
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Originally Posted by Quirky
It bugs me no end in places like my LLL meeting, fer crying out loud, to see these AWAKE and ALERT babies being rocked in their carseats!
I agree with this! If your child is awake interact with it, so what if you are someplace where you need to be quiet and listen, you can still hold your baby and smile at it and whatever. Don't just rock it while it stares off in space. But I too loved my bucket for the times DD fell asleep in the car and I could just carry her wherever we were going and not wake her. Once she woke up though we took her out.
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